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Post by burythehammer on May 16, 2016 12:59:13 GMT -5
I don't think it's nearly as unlikely as you make it sound. He has to rake, yes, and that's no guarantee, but if he does, I'd say it's more probable than not that he gets a shot. Brock Holt should be their utility guy and Chris Young can still get his ABs against LHP. And the whole "putting a 22 year old in a pennant race" thing is a really weak argument (it really hurt Bogaerts/Ellsbury/etc), and not something I think the Red Sox would be concerned about at all.
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Post by burythehammer on May 15, 2016 19:55:46 GMT -5
Might want to find a more accurate source. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to be on the attack. It should have been obvious he wasn't going to get promoted before today's game. Not surprisingly totheights tweeted it out like it was his info. After mocking brisox. Fraud.
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Post by burythehammer on May 15, 2016 13:34:04 GMT -5
It's nice when a guy is a superstar from the get-go but there's something to be said for watching a guy blossom before your eyes like this.
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Post by burythehammer on May 15, 2016 4:30:21 GMT -5
The point I'm making is that this little extra bit of info pays off immensely if it turns out to be the reason you draft Betts in the 5th round as opposed to someone else grabbing him in the 7th when you wanted him in the 8th. It's not the whole story or even most of the story -- it's the marginal edge that makes the key difference. It's like the extra pitch that turns the mid-rotation guy into an ace. How much credit do you give the extra pitch? From one POV, not that much, but from another, it's most of the story. Key word being IF. If you had said that from the beginning I wouldn't have even responded, much less disagreed. I don't disagree with anything else you say here. The problem I have is when you draw a line straight from A to F without B, C, D, or E, and then act like it's ridiculous to believe otherwise. Which, I've learned, is kinda your thing (And for the record, I don't think you're a dick or overly arrogant at all, it's nothing personal). And I ignore it if I can so as not to derail every thread the way this one has been. So for everyone else's sake, I'll try to do that better, since I don't imagine you plan on changing any time soon.
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Post by burythehammer on May 14, 2016 15:27:12 GMT -5
Nobody was unaware of Ockimey's existence, yet we had him much higher than people who had merely watched him hit. Again, you don't know this. It's a huge assumption. How do you know Ockimey wouldn't have been taken with the very next pick if we hadn't taken him? "Well because BA didn't rank him and they reflect the industry", the only problem with that is none of us knew the Red Sox liked him either until they drafted him.
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Post by burythehammer on May 14, 2016 8:46:37 GMT -5
Saying they did the neuroscouting thing with him (a reported fact) and saying he was a "product" of neuroscouting are two very different things. Did they draft everyone who tested well? Do we have any idea? Do you have any idea whatsoever if the neuroscouting thing is even legit (which Cherington himself wasn't willing to say)? I could just as easily say that Mookie is a product of basketball scouting.
But I was referring more to the "we're only guessing that Ockimey MUST also be." You are literally the first person I have ever seen bring it up. There is no we. And your reasoning is tenuous, at best. As if he's the first guy to ever be drafted relatively high without having much of a public profile pre-draft, or, even better, the first baseball prospect to ever learn to hit (because he cut his K-rate from awful to merely bad in A Ball) as he progressed up the ladder.
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Post by burythehammer on May 14, 2016 6:09:52 GMT -5
We know for a fact that Mookie was a product of neuroscouting, while we're just guessing that this must be true of Ock, given that no one had heard of him and he's put up 68, 128, 194 wRC+ (so far) in his three seasons Really interesting use of "we" here.
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Post by burythehammer on May 13, 2016 5:31:15 GMT -5
I check this every day because I keep assuming this is the peak and they can't keep doing it but The Red Sox, as a team, rank 55th AMONG PLAYERS in wRC+.
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Post by burythehammer on May 12, 2016 12:03:33 GMT -5
I always liked him a lot but it's hard to have faith in a dude when he's the worst hitter in baseball for 500+ PA.
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Post by burythehammer on May 12, 2016 11:19:18 GMT -5
Batting order doesn't matter.
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Post by burythehammer on May 11, 2016 21:47:20 GMT -5
Derek Jeter, career: .310/.377/.440 Xander Bogaerts, 2016: .318/.377/.455 except Jeter played the majority of his career in an insane offensive era. yes, I'm saying Bogaerts is clearly better than one of the 2 or 3 greatest shortstops of all time
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Post by burythehammer on May 11, 2016 21:44:24 GMT -5
Can't wait for the Benintendi, JBJ, Mookie OF! I always tease people when they do the "Here's our all-prospect lineup five years from now!" thing but we are going to be as close to it as you can get when Benny and Moncada come up.
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Post by burythehammer on May 11, 2016 10:46:59 GMT -5
I'll be interested to see if the MLBPA steps up and acts on behalf of the part of their constituency that they have always cared the least about.
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Post by burythehammer on May 11, 2016 10:41:42 GMT -5
It's nice to see that the slimeyness of MLB's investigators hasn't been scaled back at all under Manfred.
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Post by burythehammer on May 10, 2016 5:28:33 GMT -5
Ben C. wanted to trade to Seattle for a reliever, the M's refused. Are we really going to assume this is true because Nick Cafardo or someone said it? Are you really going to pretend like it's hard to believe? I mean, they didn't give Rusney Castillo 75m because they had confidence in Jackie Bradley.
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Post by burythehammer on May 8, 2016 17:49:13 GMT -5
But the numbers have been ...pretty good, actually. 2.99 SIERA 2.95 xFIP 2.93 FIP This is cold comfort when he's topping out at 92.
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Post by burythehammer on May 8, 2016 17:40:52 GMT -5
Last year vs LHP (114 PA): .310/.381/.570 I'm not suggesting that this is a fatal flaw that's going to submarine his career. I'm suggesting that it's not like he NEEDS TO BE IN PORTLAND YESTERDAY the way that, well, the way that Benintendi does. He's just got some things to work on is all. Not to mention that once he gets to AA, he will sooner than later have to start learning a new position. I think we all expect his bat to be ready if not next year then certainly by 2018, and I don't see Pedroia going anywhere in that time frame. So, long way of saying, they want to be certain he's ready for Portland offensively before promoting him.
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Post by burythehammer on May 7, 2016 8:42:21 GMT -5
That's all well and good until Papi destroys the robot ump with his bat.
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Post by burythehammer on May 7, 2016 8:30:44 GMT -5
Fascinating. Tell me more. This isn't a political forum. Not everyone will agree or disagree with your political views but either way, they don't belong here. Is that straight enough language that you understand the point ? It's not a Humorless Whining forum last time I checked either, boss.
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Post by burythehammer on May 7, 2016 7:57:02 GMT -5
Good way to add politics to a baseball thread and I'm guessing a lot of posters think you are giving him too much credit for intelligence. Fascinating. Tell me more.
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Post by burythehammer on May 7, 2016 6:50:43 GMT -5
This dude is 100% a Trump supporter.
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Post by burythehammer on May 7, 2016 6:44:36 GMT -5
Yeah let's get back on topic, fellas. What were we discussing? Oh yeah, baseball rats:
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Post by burythehammer on May 5, 2016 21:18:41 GMT -5
Why does Law hate Benintendi? Does he have something against baseball rats? Is he confusing them with literal rats?
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Post by burythehammer on May 5, 2016 20:39:24 GMT -5
"He has been wrong a lot" says " the Lavarnway guy". Spoken like a guy who has lost probably every argument with me so far Name one.
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Post by burythehammer on May 5, 2016 19:55:09 GMT -5
"He has been wrong a lot" says "the Lavarnway guy".
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