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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 23, 2024 11:18:21 GMT -5
I was quibbling (as stated) with going from All-time great down to very good. I agree the other 2 are all-time greats and think Kelly was certainly below them. I think we agree where they stand, i just thought the initial wording of just very good was a light. Rivers was great Eli was inconsistent but could step up and play top notch football. He’ll easily make the HOF because of his 2 great runs but overall his career is underwhelming in my opinion. Matt Ryan I struggle to label With my system I say Rivers and Ryan were very good and Manning was good, heck maybe a level below. Manning without SB just wasn't anything special. Great for me is either all-time greats or best of your generation. Those guys played with Payton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers. I’d probably make categories like this if I were thinking about it (as he types this with little thought): All-time great Great Excellent Very good Good Solid I’d likely slot Rivers in the excellent category under great. And I’d probably put Kelly in the same excellent category. Brady and Manning All-time greats Brees and Rothlesberger Greats Rivers excellent Eli Manning falls in very good but most of his career he played as simply a good QB but he had a couple runs of greatness.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 22, 2024 10:15:10 GMT -5
I agree he’s a step below Marino and Elway who are both top 10 QBs (being conservative) all-time, but very good (and I’m quibbling) is too low. He was excellent. I don’t even know how to compare QB stats across eras anymore, but when he retired he was top 10 in most QB stats. You just don't like me wording of the tier below Great. I think there's few truly great QBs and a bunch of very good ones. Bledsoe was in the top 10 of a lot of stats when he retired. It doesn't help that Kelly went to UCF for two years instead of NFL and had a rather short career. Also I can't give him credit for being a winner, when he was outplayed in four straight superbowls and never had a good game. He's a huge reason they never won one. That's just my criteria and everyone has different sets. LIke what's your thoughts on Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan and Eli Manning? I was quibbling (as stated) with going from All-time great down to very good. I agree the other 2 are all-time greats and think Kelly was certainly below them. I think we agree where they stand, i just thought the initial wording of just very good was a light. Rivers was great Eli was inconsistent but could step up and play top notch football. He’ll easily make the HOF because of his 2 great runs but overall his career is underwhelming in my opinion. Matt Ryan I struggle to label
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 21, 2024 20:07:35 GMT -5
Yeah, looking at it again, Jrue kind of pushes him toward Tatum. It looked worse than it was. That push by Jrue was so light - Caleb had plenty of time to stop himself before undercutting Tatum. I agree he was being reckless… listening to Scal tho I’m starting to change my mind
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 21, 2024 14:21:42 GMT -5
Miami balled like their lives depended on it in the 4th, I don’t think anything of it. Caleb Martin tackling Tatum was classless. I’d call it reckless; I don’t think it was dirty (which I put intent to)
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 21, 2024 14:20:40 GMT -5
They never led by less than 14 wtf ppl get a grip lmaooooo There was never a moment the game was in doubt at any point Right, it’s almost as if no one has ever watched an NBA game before.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 21, 2024 11:35:00 GMT -5
My Drake Maye dream has died inside me. I’m fully prepared to hate their pick.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 21, 2024 11:30:12 GMT -5
That’s a big disrespectful to Jim Kelly. He’s better than very good. He was a great QB. I think he's a level below the greats like Dan Marino and John Elways of his time. Heck his HOF level is about half of the average HOF QB. I agree he’s a step below Marino and Elway who are both top 10 QBs (being conservative) all-time, but very good (and I’m quibbling) is too low. He was excellent. I don’t even know how to compare QB stats across eras anymore, but when he retired he was top 10 in most QB stats.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 21, 2024 5:42:17 GMT -5
Am I remembering correctly. Didn’t people question Anthony Edwards competitiveness and desire to be great heading into the draft?
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 19, 2024 13:21:17 GMT -5
Well it all depends where the QBs get drafted, bar for top 3 pick is much higher than pick 10-15 and the bar at 16-32 is even lower. Best QB draft of all-time is 1983, two all-time greats in Marino/Elway, a very good Jim Kelly, a very solid Ken O'Brien and an okay Tony Eason all taken in first. 2020 first 5 QBs taken are all good to better QBs, long way to go, but that has a chance to be the best draft class ever. Maybe they don't reach the heights of two all-time greats, but you could have 5 QBs with AAV of over 100 for their careers. Never been done before and zero busts for 5 straight picks. Even that 1983 class has #2 QB pick, 7th overall busting completely in Todd Blackledy. Then Eason and O'Brien going before Marino. Take that 2020 class, it's crazy good for it's depth of starting level QBs, how does it turn out? How many great QBs, how many very good and how many just good ones? So if you look at the last 40 years of QB classes how to you rank this one? What type of QB are you chasing? How many will be great, very good, good, solid or so-so? That’s a big disrespectful to Jim Kelly. He’s better than very good. He was a great QB.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 19, 2024 10:05:04 GMT -5
Reports are Giannis may miss the first round.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 18, 2024 16:15:28 GMT -5
Butler with a potential MCL sprain. Not sure they beat the Bulls without Butler, and I know for a fact they don't beat the Celtics without Butler. Rosier out too
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 18, 2024 8:01:16 GMT -5
Lifetime ban for gambling for Jontay Porter Probably helps him so now he is forced to go overseas and he’ll make more money versus never making the NBa anyways
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 17, 2024 9:55:23 GMT -5
Not sad to see the Warriors eliminated and the Lakers having to face the Nuggets in the first round.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 15, 2024 6:12:45 GMT -5
Probably because in the playoffs there is no playing with second string guys and he may still be dealing with a little something from his earlier injuries and considering Horford and Porzingis age/injuries he’s pretty valuable. Then why is he playing at all? It’s a valid question, my answer was off the top of my head so the second part may be a bit off. Maybe they didn’t want him going all Payton Pritchard the last game of the season and raising the competition to resign him lol
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 14, 2024 17:16:41 GMT -5
What the reason for not play Tillman big minutes to get him used to playing with 2nd string guys? Probably because in the playoffs there is no playing with second string guys and he may still be dealing with a little something from his earlier injuries and considering Horford and Porzingis age/injuries he’s pretty valuable.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 14, 2024 13:05:58 GMT -5
Pritchards extension is looking like highway robbery for the Celtics.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 10, 2024 18:27:26 GMT -5
4/135 for Holiday extension… i won’t care if that means they are still signing White and just plan to pay a lot of tax money. Win a chip and I think they will.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 10, 2024 17:54:10 GMT -5
I’d prefer then take JJ over Daniels
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 10, 2024 12:33:33 GMT -5
very underrated player his entire career Was he? He was a good/solid corner and got paid and treated like one. He was never a number 1 but was good.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 10, 2024 5:21:50 GMT -5
The Beast draft guide dropped today
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 9, 2024 5:09:56 GMT -5
Celts sign Queta to a standard contract which makes him eligible for the playoffs. No terms of the contract were released.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 8, 2024 18:54:05 GMT -5
If Maye is off the board and the Giants are giddy for Daniels or JJ, it’d be great to trade down to 6. Still get a stud WR or someone like Alt plus some other assets. Not a big fan of trading with anyone further down the board unless it’s a complete over pay by the other team. If Maye is there and he’s not picked I’ll be devastated.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 7, 2024 12:27:54 GMT -5
Also happy that they didn't add to their list of needs by letting these guys walk. It does seem a bit steep. Here are some of the better safeties who signed during this offseason. Winfield got 17.12 for 1 yr, franchise tag McKinney got 16.75 for 4 yrs, 23 guaranteed Curl got 4.5 for 2 yrs, 6 guaranteed Stone got 7 for 2 yrs, 6 guaranteed Gilman got 5.06 for 2 yrs, 5.63 guaranteed But I dont have an issue with them overspending a bit to keep one if their better players. It woyld have been nice if they had signed a true FS so they could keep Dugger closer to the line. I have not seen the full breakdown but someone said it has an early out for the Pats so maybe it’s a lower signing bonus and guaranteed salaries in the first couple years…. If that’s the case I like it better. Either way it’s not a real overpay but it’s not good value either.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 7, 2024 9:02:24 GMT -5
Dugger signed. 4 yr deal. Base: 58m Max: 66m Guaranteed: 32.5m
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 6, 2024 6:00:40 GMT -5
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