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2014 MLB Draft discussion
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Post by ramireja on May 8, 2014 13:42:42 GMT -5
I don't know....when was the last time the sox drafted a 1B prospect in the first round (or even 1st 3 rounds for that matter).
Guys like Hill and Monte Harrison fit the bill a little better though thanks to their advanced defensive tools.
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Post by James Dunne on May 8, 2014 13:57:15 GMT -5
This is conjecture on my part, but it's possible that Reed could play the outfield. He's slimmed down quite a bit this year (and it hasn't cost him any power at all), and he obviously has the arm for it.
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Post by amfox1 on May 8, 2014 14:00:26 GMT -5
I don't know....when was the last time the sox drafted a 1B prospect in the first round (or even 1st 3 rounds for that matter). Guys like Hill and Monte Harrison fit the bill a little better though thanks to their advanced defensive tools. Aaron Bates, 2006. (note: Hunter Morris, 2007 could also be an acceptable answer as it was thought he would not stay at 3B -- and he hasn't) I agree that it would not be typical for the Red Sox to draft a 1B. However, given the lack of depth in the system at that spot, I would not be completely surprised to see Reed, Gillaspie or Schwarber get picked, if they fall to 26 or 33 (depending on who else is on the board). My guess is that the team will select a pitcher at 26 or 33.
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Post by raftsox on May 8, 2014 14:00:44 GMT -5
I don't think it will matter. I could easily see PHI or TOR taking him at #7 or #9. Most teams assume that pitchers will have TJ at some point. I'd probably shift my top eleven as follows (order in my mock 1.0 in parentheses): 1. HOU - Carlos Rodon LHP, North Carolina State (1) 2. MIA - Tyler Kolek RHP (Texas Christian) (2) 3. CWS - Brady Aiken LHP (UCLA) (5) 4. CHC - Tyler Beede RHP, Vanderbilt (4) 5. MIN - Nick Gordon SS/RHP (Florida State) (10) 6. SEA – Alex Jackson C/OF (Oregon) (6) 7. PHI - Jeff Hoffman RHP, East Carolina (3) 8. COL - Bradley Zimmer OF, San Francisco (8) 9. TOR - Aaron Nola RHP, Louisiana State (9) 10. NYM - Sean Newcomb LHP, Hartford (14) 11. TOR (Bickford comp.) - Kyle Freeland LHP, Evansville (26) At this point, I think the draft starts at pick #10. Houston is interesting. I've heard a few times from draft prognosticators that they could draft Brady Aiken (or Hoffman before the TJ news) and sign him underslot at 1-1 so they have more $ available later on; similar to what they did in 2012.
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Post by jimed14 on May 8, 2014 14:24:36 GMT -5
I don't know....when was the last time the sox drafted a 1B prospect in the first round (or even 1st 3 rounds for that matter). Guys like Hill and Monte Harrison fit the bill a little better though thanks to their advanced defensive tools. Aaron Bates, 2006. (note: Hunter Morris, 2007 could also be an acceptable answer as it was thought he would not stay at 3B -- and he hasn't) I agree that it would not be typical for the Red Sox to draft a 1B. However, given the lack of depth in the system at that spot, I would not be completely surprised to see Reed, Gillaspie or Schwarber get picked, if they fall to 26 or 33 (depending on who else is on the board). My guess is that the team will select a pitcher at 26 or 33. Vitek was technically not a 1B prospect, but there were pretty big questions if he could play anywhere else. Or hit. Or do anything related to baseball.
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Post by jmei on May 8, 2014 14:31:19 GMT -5
Aaron Bates, 2006. (note: Hunter Morris, 2007 could also be an acceptable answer as it was thought he would not stay at 3B -- and he hasn't) I agree that it would not be typical for the Red Sox to draft a 1B. However, given the lack of depth in the system at that spot, I would not be completely surprised to see Reed, Gillaspie or Schwarber get picked, if they fall to 26 or 33 (depending on who else is on the board). My guess is that the team will select a pitcher at 26 or 33. Vitek was technically not a 1B prospect, but there were pretty big questions if he could play anywhere else. Or hit. Or do anything related to baseball. I know you're being facetious here, but Vitek at the time was a pretty well-regarded prospect, a guy who many draftniks regarded as one of the most advanced college bats in the draft class. He ended up being a bust, but it wasn't anywhere close to an indefensible pick at the time.
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Post by James Dunne on May 8, 2014 14:32:35 GMT -5
And he got hurt. And he'd still have been the best Phillies draft pick of the last ten years.
Seriously folks, the Vitek pick gets way too much abuse. When the Red Sox have hit on their top pick so often, I guess it's easy to bash the miss, but Vitek was a polished hitter who had a solid debut and then got just crushed with injuries.
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Post by amfox1 on May 8, 2014 14:51:17 GMT -5
Vitek was technically not a 1B prospect, but there were pretty big questions if he could play anywhere else. Or hit. Or do anything related to baseball. Vitek wasn't a 1B prospect. The thought was that he might end up in LF. There was no thought that he wouldn't hit. Below was a post-draft scouting report from the Red Sox and a more detailed (edited for brevity) scouting report from prospectjunkies.com: Sometimes, a pick doesn't work out.
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Post by amfox1 on May 9, 2014 6:52:55 GMT -5
keithlaw ?@keithlaw 29m UNLV RHP Erick Fedde won't pitch this weekend either due to a tender elbow.
keithlaw ?@keithlaw 3m Prep RHP Scott Blewett, another likely first rounder, to skip a start due to shoulder stiffness.
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Post by bsout2 on May 9, 2014 7:43:08 GMT -5
And he got hurt. And he'd still have been the best Phillies draft pick of the last ten years. Seriously folks, the Vitek pick gets way too much abuse. When the Red Sox have hit on their top pick so often, I guess it's easy to bash the miss, but Vitek was a polished hitter who had a solid debut and then got just crushed with injuries. We can move on from Vitek and start talking about taking Pat Light a few picks ahead of Gallo.
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Post by templeusox on May 9, 2014 11:43:06 GMT -5
I don't remember a draft with this few positional tools in a long, long time.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 9, 2014 11:55:11 GMT -5
keithlaw ?@keithlaw 29m UNLV RHP Erick Fedde won't pitch this weekend either due to a tender elbow. keithlaw ?@keithlaw 3m Prep RHP Scott Blewett, another likely first rounder, to skip a start due to shoulder stiffness. They dropping like flies. Hopefully it's not an issue for these guys.
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Post by amfox1 on May 9, 2014 13:24:17 GMT -5
I don't remember a draft with this few positional tools in a long, long time. Agreed. And injuries and opt-outs have the potential to impact the early rounds on the pitching side.
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Post by jdb on May 9, 2014 16:41:12 GMT -5
I don't remember a draft with this few positional tools in a long, long time. You have a favorite guy(s) in our draft slot?
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Post by bentossaurus on May 10, 2014 1:14:32 GMT -5
If he makes it there, Trea Turner ticks all the boxes the Red Sox seem to like. Him and any recently converted 6'6 pitcher with a good change-up.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 10, 2014 2:30:34 GMT -5
Trea Turner was drafted by the NFL. . . . Cory (down state NY) Hoffman has to drop because of TJ but how far?
Klaw (1:08 PM) Million dollar question - or maybe $2 million. I think teams with a second pick right after the first round would be in position to get creative and pay him over slot down there. Astros would be one such team, as would the Royals with three picks between 17 and 40 and a history of doing just that (Manaea last year). Sources have also pointed out Washington and Boston as teams that might be interested in overpaying him if he fell to them.
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Post by amfox1 on May 10, 2014 6:44:56 GMT -5
Trea Turner was drafted by the NFL. Trai Turner, OG, LSU was drafted by the NFL. Trea Turner, SS, NC State was not.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 10, 2014 6:50:50 GMT -5
Trea Turner was drafted by the NFL. Trai Turner, OG, LSU was drafted by the NFL. Trea Turner, SS, NC State was not. Ah OK, my bad. I don't follow football anymore but saw a tweet that I thought was this Turner.
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Post by amfox1 on May 10, 2014 8:54:01 GMT -5
keithlaw ?@keithlaw 4m Speaking of pitcher health, multiple sources telling me today UNLV pitcher Erick Fedde will need TJ surgery too
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 10, 2014 11:57:22 GMT -5
Sigh another one goes down. Can the draft get here soon enough?
I believe Fedde is a Boras guy adding another layer to forecast where he'd fall. We'll see.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 11, 2014 4:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on May 12, 2014 10:48:44 GMT -5
With HS pitching representing the deepest pool of talent, I'm curious as to who people like the most in this year's draft. Clearly, there seems to be a top tier representing locks for the top 10-15. I'm talking about Aiken, Kolek and Holmes. Theres pretty much a near zero chance that one of these guys drops to our first pick. Past that though, there is a much larger tier (or couple of tiers) of arms. I'm talking about Touki Touissant, Sean Reid-Foley, Kodi Medeiros, Luis Ortiz, Spencer Adams, Foster Griffin, Mac Marshall, Justus Sheffield, Dylan Cease, J.B. Bukauskas, Scott Blewett, Alex Verdugo and more. Obviously, not all of these guys will be available at 26, but various mock drafts have seen each of these guys at 26 or well beyond at least making each guy a possibility. So that said, who do you prefer and why?
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 12, 2014 13:16:25 GMT -5
My feeling on the HS class are as follows
- After Rodon I like Aiken followed closely by Kolek. I like that Aiken is really young for a class and is so advanced pitching wise, not that he lacks 'stuff' but tha stands out.
- the Next group is Holmes, Toussaint, Reid-Foley which to me go in the 9-21 range so I don't think they'd fall to 26 unless something happen.
The rest could be around at 26 and I like them as follows:
Spencer Adams: I like his frame and projection. Been up to the mid 90s sitting comfortably in the low 90s.
Luis Ortiz: if it wasn't for the injury concern I'd be more enthuse but on the other hand he wouldn't be in play at 26 if it wasn't due to injury. He only missed a few starts and last I saw he had been pitching well since then so perhaps he goes higher.
Kodi Medeiros: he doesn't get much press because he is in Hawaii but this guy has filthy stuff. I don't know much about mechanics so the club would have to be comfortable with that.
Blewitt: I have to read a bit more on him. Law seems to think he could go 15-30. I like his tall muscular frame.
Keaton McKinney: another guy who flies under the radar a bit. I like him because he has the best change up in the HS class.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 14, 2014 12:23:46 GMT -5
Baseball America is out with their top 100 with Scouting Reports. Link
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Post by Guidas on May 14, 2014 13:53:09 GMT -5
Anyone seen this guy Austin DeCarr in CT pitch live?
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