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Post by jmei on Oct 17, 2013 18:55:31 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 17, 2013 22:27:46 GMT -5
Humble prediction: Alex Jackson will force himself into the top three. Love the bat.
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Post by taftreign on Oct 17, 2013 23:58:16 GMT -5
Sounds like a Cub type of player. Of course at some point they are going to need some arms for this team.
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Post by taftreign on Oct 18, 2013 0:15:40 GMT -5
Always hard to project players this far out where the Red Sox are picking. A few guys in and about there pick/picks range I could see keeping an eye on are:
1B/OF Roberson HS Braxton Davidson - young developing left handed power bat C Kennesaw St Max Pentecost - history of Red Sox and the Cape League RHP Sanalwood HS Sean Reid-Foley - more young pitching depth for the lower levels OF Elk Grove HS Derek Hill - speedy defensive CF, always like to have this type of player in the system (ie JBJ, Margot) * was disappointed the team passed on Stoney Brooks Travis Janikowski two years back 1B/3B/RHP Cal St Fullerton JD Davis - power corner bat OF/RHP Oregon St Dylan Davis - diddo LHP Tullahoma HS Justus Sheffield - Why not try another Sheffield with a much better chance to sign
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Post by raftsox on Oct 18, 2013 8:55:11 GMT -5
I hate to try to predict who the Red Sox will draft without knowing how many draft picks they'll have in that 29-40 range. I think it plays heavily on their tactics. I'll go broad and say that if they have more than 1 pick, they'll draft a HS arm (likely a 2 way player) and a college position player who underperforms this season. If they only have 1 pick then I think they take a college arm with a big fastball; someone like Cederoth or one of the two Davis' (non)bros.
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Post by ramireja on Oct 18, 2013 9:16:19 GMT -5
Another way to look at it, is which player currently projected to go in the 1-12 range slips for a reason that the sox are willing to gamble on (e.g. Marrero, Bradley Jr. Ranaudo). Obviously there is no way to project this, but don't be surprised if the Sox nab a guy projected to go in the current top half of the draft, especially if they have multiple picks before Round 2.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Oct 18, 2013 22:43:50 GMT -5
Really would love Cederoth, seems like a future closer which would be great at the end of the first. To me, Tiquan Forbes would be interesting. Seems like Mookie to me.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 18, 2013 23:24:24 GMT -5
Really would love Cederoth, seems like a future closer which would be great at the end of the first. To me, Tiquan Forbes would be interesting. Seems like Mookie to me. Forbes is 6'4". Matt Garrioch compared him physically to Randy Moss (!) of all people. I'm wondering where the Mookie comparison is coming from.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Oct 19, 2013 1:21:07 GMT -5
Really would love Cederoth, seems like a future closer which would be great at the end of the first. To me, Tiquan Forbes would be interesting. Seems like Mookie to me. Forbes is 6'4". Matt Garrioch compared him physically to Randy Moss (!) of all people. I'm wondering where the Mookie comparison is coming from. Three-sport star, good speed, and I remember reading somewhere other than BA that he might need to move off shortstop. I didn't realize it was because he was so tall. I guess it was more wishful thinking that anything.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 19, 2013 7:41:42 GMT -5
I remember reading that they were scouting Grant Holmes even while he was a jr so I would file that name away as I told you about a certain guy named Trey Ball on the first page of last year's thread, not gloating just trying to go 2/2 here.
Also it would be a crime if they don't draft Fenway Parks on name value alone, I have my pitchfork ready to go to Fenway, the stadium, and tear the place down.
On a more serous note I'm kinda hoping for a power arm and/or bat. Maybe old friend Derek Fisher drops a little bit on concerns over his defense. I really liked Forbes but I don't want mention him a lot. It seems like every time I get enfatuated with someone he either gets picked ahead of the Sox (Frazier) or the Sox don't pick him (Josh Bell) so I'll try to stay away from that this year.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 19, 2013 11:09:57 GMT -5
I remember reading that they were scouting Grant Holmes even while he was a jr so I would file that name away as I told you about a certain guy named Trey Ball on the first page of last year's thread, not gloating just trying to go 2/2 here. Also it would be a crime if they don't draft Fenway Parks on name value alone, I have my pitchfork ready to go to Fenway, the stadium, and tear the place down. On a more serous note I'm kinda hoping for a power arm and/or bat. Maybe old friend Derek Fisher drops a little bit on concerns over his defense. I really liked Forbes but I don't want mention him a lot. It seems like every time I get enfatuated with someone he either gets picked ahead of the Sox (Frazier) or the Sox don't pick him (Josh Bell) so I'll try to stay away from that this year. Wow, and there was also a post about Jon Denney on the first page of last year's thread. Go figure.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 20, 2013 18:49:02 GMT -5
Wait... There is a draft next year? It's a lot more exciting with a top 10 pick... It's a lot better to be playing in the WS though...
Has anyone heard anything about the new slotting system and how it's affected the talent in the draft? If at all.. Too early to tell? Just curious as it was a concern.
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Post by mainesox on Oct 20, 2013 19:08:42 GMT -5
Wait... There is a draft next year? It's a lot more exciting with a top 10 pick... It's a lot better to be playing in the WS though... Has anyone heard anything about the new slotting system and how it's affected the talent in the draft? If at all.. Too early to tell? Just curious as it was a concern. Having the #7 pick was super exciting, but the Sox could potentially have 5 picks before the start of round two, which would be really exciting in it's own right (I think ~3 is more likely, but 5 is a real possibility).
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Oct 20, 2013 20:13:13 GMT -5
Wait... There is a draft next year? It's a lot more exciting with a top 10 pick... It's a lot better to be playing in the WS though... Has anyone heard anything about the new slotting system and how it's affected the talent in the draft? If at all.. Too early to tell? Just curious as it was a concern. Having the #7 pick was super exciting, but the Sox could potentially have 5 picks before the start of round two, which would be really exciting in it's own right (I think ~3 is more likely, but 5 is a real possibility). I feel like we're keeping Salty and Nap, so 3 sounds right.
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Post by semperfisox on Oct 20, 2013 20:20:49 GMT -5
Maybe we could finally add a power 1B prospect.
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Post by taftreign on Oct 20, 2013 22:51:26 GMT -5
Having the #7 pick was super exciting, but the Sox could potentially have 5 picks before the start of round two, which would be really exciting in it's own right (I think ~3 is more likely, but 5 is a real possibility). I feel like we're keeping Salty and Nap, so 3 sounds right. 3 would be my guess as well. Supplemental for Ellsbury and Drew. However I would not be surprised to see the team sign McCann losing the original 1st rounder and adding a third supplemental for Salty. Makes sense to move JBJr into Ellsbury's spot and Bogaerts full time into SS with Middlebrooks remaining at 3rd. Perhaps adding a platoon partner with Middlebrooks. Napoli makes sense to remain at first unless the team could get Corey Hart without giving up a pick. Also I would expect the team to package an existing starter with one of the young minor league arms for a bat. Boston has plenty of resources to land Belt who the Giants still seem to run lukewarm on. If you like more prospect you may consider Maikel Franco of the Phillies who would likely deal him for a major league ready arm or arms. There are multiple possibilities in which the team could let Napoli walk. Perhaps the team trades for a corner OFer and moves Nava to 1st with Carp in place of Napoli. Still I see 3 with an outside shot at 4 picks.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Oct 21, 2013 0:16:43 GMT -5
I feel like we're keeping Salty and Nap, so 3 sounds right. 3 would be my guess as well. Supplemental for Ellsbury and Drew. However I would not be surprised to see the team sign McCann losing the original 1st rounder and adding a third supplemental for Salty. Makes sense to move JBJr into Ellsbury's spot and Bogaerts full time into SS with Middlebrooks remaining at 3rd. Perhaps adding a platoon partner with Middlebrooks. Napoli makes sense to remain at first unless the team could get Corey Hart without giving up a pick. Also I would expect the team to package an existing starter with one of the young minor league arms for a bat. Boston has plenty of resources to land Belt who the Giants still seem to run lukewarm on. If you like more prospect you may consider Maikel Franco of the Phillies who would likely deal him for a major league ready arm or arms. There are multiple possibilities in which the team could let Napoli walk. Perhaps the team trades for a corner OFer and moves Nava to 1st with Carp in place of Napoli. Still I see 3 with an outside shot at 4 picks. If we were to get rid of Napoli I'd want a first basemen that can outright platoon with Carp, and Belt is a lefty too. Franco would be nice for maybe 2015. Maybe Lava at first?
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Post by jimoh on Oct 21, 2013 5:27:45 GMT -5
Kidding, right? Phillies do have a 23YO prospect closer to the majors than the 20YO Franco, but Franco's close to being their top prospect and they have pretty good pitching.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 21, 2013 8:59:55 GMT -5
Folks, let's keep discussion to the draft. There's already a thread about the QO's.
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Post by ramireja on Oct 21, 2013 9:26:36 GMT -5
Maybe we could finally add a power 1B prospect. Ha! The front office would never consider wasting such a draft pick. But honestly, I wish they would draft a big bat with questionable defense once in a while....they put too much of a premium on up the middle positions and athletes. For example, I wanted Tellez last year and considering we left ~800k in our pockets, that could have been a really nice late round pick.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 21, 2013 14:23:36 GMT -5
They did that in IFAs this year, Devers is known more for his hitting potential than any defensive value or athleticism he'll bring, so they have shown that if they like someone they'll take them even if it doesn't fit their "philosophical" profile.
I like the chances that they will bring a "big" bat into the system via the draft next year to diversify the portfolio within the system.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 21, 2013 17:17:15 GMT -5
They did that in IFAs this year, Devers is known more for his hitting potential than any defensive value or athleticism he'll bring, so they have shown that if they like someone they'll take them even if it doesn't fit their "philosophical" profile. I like the chances that they will bring a "big" bat into the system via the draft next year to diversify the portfolio within the system. Were you Peter Lynch in another life? I agree tho...get across the board representation in as many asset classes as possible. Right now we are under-weighted in the big bat staples.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 21, 2013 17:44:23 GMT -5
Maine has the draft tagged exactly right. No telling this early on who will rise/fall by the end of the season and especially as far as who will get drafted. Boston should get multiple NICE picks and myself? I just want high upside people, no more Kris Johnson, Brian Johnson types with little upside and the club takes only because they are deemed as safe. Don't be afraid if none pan out.. Take guys who have great upside, guys like Youngineer even (talent wise) who flashed talent as a pick.
The system will be needing kids in a few years at the upper levels, take guys who can possibly be impact by then and not organizational filler.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Oct 21, 2013 20:30:37 GMT -5
Maine has the draft tagged exactly right. No telling this early on who will rise/fall by the end of the season and especially as far as who will get drafted. Boston should get multiple NICE picks and myself? I just want high upside people, no more Kris Johnson, Brian Johnson types with little upside and the club takes only because they are deemed as safe. Don't be afraid if none pan out.. Take guys who have great upside, guys like Youngineer even (talent wise) who flashed talent as a pick. The system will be needing kids in a few years at the upper levels, take guys who can possibly be impact by then and not organizational filler. If we did get multiple picks at the back of the first round, I would be fine with a Brian Johnson type if we could get a signability player with big talent, like Phil Bickford, just to throw out a name.
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Post by stevedillard on Nov 2, 2013 19:16:04 GMT -5
1. Astros 2. Marlins 3. White Sox 4. Cubs 5. Twins 6. Mariners 7. Phillies 8. Rockies 9. Blue Jays 10. Mets 11. Blue Jays (for failing to sign 2013 No. 10 pick Phil Bickford) 12. Brewers 13. Padres 14. Giants 15. Angels 16. Diamondbacks 17. Orioles 18. Yankees 19. Royals 20. Nationals 21. Reds 22. Rangers 23. Rays 24. Indians 25. Dodgers 26. Tigers 27. Pirates 28. Athletics 29. Braves 30. Red Sox 31. Cardinal ------------------------ Qualified offers (teams will lose first pick, losing teams get sandwich pick in reverse order of their record) Ellsbury Napoli Drew Saltalamaccia Granderson Cano McCann Choo Burnett E.Santana (confirmed) Beltran N.Cruz (confirmed) K.Morales (confirmed) P.Hughes (unlikely) J.peralta (unlikely)
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