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Post by jdb on Mar 23, 2014 11:51:40 GMT -5
I think Drew signs a one year deal just after opening day so the team can't offer the QO.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 23, 2014 12:07:30 GMT -5
I think Drew signs a one year deal just after opening day so the team can't offer the QO. This is probably how it will play out. My money is on the Tigers. You'd think that Drew and Boras may have a different "take" next season when Drew is 32, but I guess not. The QO will probably be higher than the $14.1 million this year. There is no way he is worth more than that, but I guess he wants the added security of multi-year contract. If there had ever been an offer of 3 years for $39 million, Drew would have fallen all over himself to sign that. A year later? He still will not get that. Whatever it takes and whoever does sign him, I don't care......just sign him and give the Sox another high draft choice in a draft that looks to be solidly above average. I found it quite interesting that several so-called "experts" on the June draft, thought the 1st 10 to 12 picks are not as good as some years, but there is little or no difference between the top 30 or 40. The depth is outstanding and someone is going to do as well if not better later in the draft. If we finally get 3 choices in that range, it will be just exciting as last year and the #7 overall. Love June!
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Mar 23, 2014 16:26:26 GMT -5
No one here thought it would go this long did they? I still contend that Drew may not sign until after the draft. For the reasons already stated explicitly. It's not likely but it is certainly possible, as it was 2 months ago.
None of us like it but it may come down to the Redsox not getting anything when Drew leaves. Drew doesn't want to sell himself short and he probably will hold out for a long term deal. Some team may blink but they still lose a pick with a 1 year deal ...right? His current options are to take a Salty type, under market, 3 year deal type deal or wait for maybe a larger deal in June. He's probably looking for the reported $39 mil deal. He would sign for that I bet. He may have to sacrifice as much as $7-8 mil to start playing now.
I personally think this is mainly a business to him, as it appeared to be with his brother. Does he wait for that $40 mil plus deal he wanted or does he take less than $33 mil now?
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Post by amfox1 on Mar 24, 2014 8:16:13 GMT -5
Tigers just traded for Alex Gonzalez, so it looks like they're calling Boras' bluff.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Mar 24, 2014 8:48:11 GMT -5
No one here thought it would go this long did they? I still contend that Drew may not sign until after the draft. For the reasons already stated explicitly. It's not likely but it is certainly possible, as it was 2 months ago. None of us like it but it may come down to the Redsox not getting anything when Drew leaves. Drew doesn't want to sell himself short and he probably will hold out for a long term deal. Some team may blink but they still lose a pick with a 1 year deal ...right? His current options are to take a Salty type, under market, 3 year deal type deal or wait for maybe a larger deal in June. He's probably looking for the reported $39 mil deal. He would sign for that I bet. He may have to sacrifice as much as $7-8 mil to start playing now. I personally think this is mainly a business to him, as it appeared to be with his brother. Does he wait for that $40 mil plus deal he wanted or does he take less than $33 mil now? Well if he waits until June to sign he may not necessarily be making more money than if he signs after opening day to lets say a 1 year, 14 million dollar deal and then signs a longer deal next offseason. Waiting until june seems like a risky move for someone who appears to be risk averse. Then again he may just want to focus on his health and training/workouts. I'd love the draft pick but im just personally pretty happy he appears to be gone.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 24, 2014 8:50:19 GMT -5
Tigers just traded for Alex Gonzalez, so it looks like they're calling Boras' bluff. This just stinks of Boras being impossible to deal with. A perfectly good SS without a job and teams who need one are all turning their backs on him. I wouldn't even want Alex Gonzalez as our backup SS.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 24, 2014 8:52:58 GMT -5
No one here thought it would go this long did they? I still contend that Drew may not sign until after the draft. For the reasons already stated explicitly. It's not likely but it is certainly possible, as it was 2 months ago. None of us like it but it may come down to the Redsox not getting anything when Drew leaves. Drew doesn't want to sell himself short and he probably will hold out for a long term deal. Some team may blink but they still lose a pick with a 1 year deal ...right? His current options are to take a Salty type, under market, 3 year deal type deal or wait for maybe a larger deal in June. He's probably looking for the reported $39 mil deal. He would sign for that I bet. He may have to sacrifice as much as $7-8 mil to start playing now. I personally think this is mainly a business to him, as it appeared to be with his brother. Does he wait for that $40 mil plus deal he wanted or does he take less than $33 mil now? Well if he waits until June to sign he may not necessarily be making more money than if he signs after opening day to lets say a 1 year, 14 million dollar deal and then signs a longer deal next offseason. Waiting until june seems like a risky move for someone who appears to be risk averse. Then again he may just want to focus on his health and training/workouts. I'd love the draft pick but im just personally pretty happy he appears to be gone. This isn't about Drew. This is about Boras making sure that almost no qualifying offers get made again except in obvious cases like Cano, Choo and Ellsbury. Drew is either being an idiot or willing to take one for his fellow players.
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Post by okin15 on Mar 24, 2014 9:22:22 GMT -5
I don't see how this hurts the Sox at all. If he wasn't going to play for them, then how is it bad that he's not playing for the Yankees or Tigers?
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 24, 2014 9:57:33 GMT -5
I don't see how this hurts the Sox at all. If he wasn't going to play for them, then how is it bad that he's not playing for the Yankees or Tigers? As long as we get the pick...
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Post by okin15 on Mar 24, 2014 10:44:06 GMT -5
yeah, sorry, i mean, even if we don't get the pick, we aren't any less likely to give a QO in the future. Giving the QO has not hurt us at all, it has only hurt Drew. So "Boras making sure that almost no qualifying offers get made again except in obvious cases like Cano, Choo and Ellsbury" isn't really going to work.
That's my only point. Apologies for being unclear.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Mar 24, 2014 10:58:36 GMT -5
yeah, sorry, i mean, even if we don't get the pick, we aren't any less likely to give a QO in the future. Giving the QO has not hurt us at all, it has only hurt Drew. So "Boras making sure that almost no qualifying offers get made again except in obvious cases like Cano, Choo and Ellsbury" isn't really going to work. That's my only point. Apologies for being unclear. This. If a team has a good ballplayer that (1) they are no more than ambivalent about resigning; and (2) wouldn't be considered a disaster if he took the QO, then why not extend the QO? As stated, it hurts only the player. If we hadn't given a QO to Drew, he very likely would have signed somewhere by now, and we would get nothing. Having given a QO to Drew, his resigning is turning into a soap opera, but the worst that happens for the Sox is that he signs somewhere else after the draft, and we get nothing. Now I guess the Sox felt that it would have been a disaster to bring Salty back for $14M, in terms of team salary ceiling implications and perhaps even for morale issues (salary inequity relative to other veteran players).
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 24, 2014 11:18:39 GMT -5
I think mid-range players are going to jump all over the QO next season. That's what teams have to be wary of.
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Post by grandsalami on Mar 24, 2014 11:26:27 GMT -5
Reyes going for an MRI
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Mar 24, 2014 21:40:46 GMT -5
If Drew had a $14 mil, one year deal on the table right now he would have taken it. He's holding out for the bucks. It's a business.
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Post by jmei on Mar 25, 2014 10:51:12 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on Mar 28, 2014 13:10:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Dodgers/Dbacks series counted as "opening day?" In other words, is Drew already able to sign without the fear of receiving a QO at the end of the year?
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 28, 2014 13:15:13 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the Dodgers/Dbacks series counted as "opening day?" In other words, is Drew already able to sign without the fear of receiving a QO at the end of the year? Only if it were one of those 2 teams.
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Post by rangoon82 on Mar 28, 2014 13:29:12 GMT -5
Peter Gammons ?@pgammo 14s GM today said Scott Boras insists he has three years and $39M on the table for Stephen Drew Its getting pretty late, Drew should probably just take this offer he has
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 28, 2014 13:48:29 GMT -5
It would be kind of dumb for Drew to wait this long and then sign today instead of Tuesday.
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Post by okin15 on Mar 28, 2014 14:29:26 GMT -5
I assumed Rangoon was just calling Boras' bluff.
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Post by danr on Mar 28, 2014 15:59:54 GMT -5
I can't believe that Drew has a 3-year $39M deal, but then I wouldn't give Cabrera $300M either. Drew is a good SS, but not a star. He has to be kicking himself for not accepting the QO from the Sox. Greed does strange things to people.
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Post by bighead on Mar 28, 2014 16:26:55 GMT -5
I can't believe that Drew has a 3-year $39M deal, but then I wouldn't give Cabrera $300M either. Drew is a good SS, but not a star. He has to be kicking himself for not accepting the QO from the Sox. Greed does strange things to people. If he has a legit 3 year deal on the table then waiting until after opening day to sign makes no sense.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2014 12:54:27 GMT -5
The Tigers are in the 3rd inning of their season opener, why haven't they signed Drew yet?
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Post by iakovos11 on Mar 31, 2014 13:43:59 GMT -5
Jeff Passan ?@jeffpassan 26m
Alex Gonzalez pretty much looks like a 37-year-old who spent last year as a first baseman trying to masquerade again as a shortstop. Oof.
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Post by jmei on Mar 31, 2014 14:11:48 GMT -5
I can't believe the Tigers really thought Alex Gonzalez was a legitimate option at SS, let alone the fact that they gave up anything to get him.
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