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Post by nexus on Oct 29, 2012 15:32:43 GMT -5
Twins declined Baker's option. Pre-TJ was someone who had good if not unspectacular peripherals. He strikes me as the kind of shrewd, incentive laden signing who makes GMs look good.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 29, 2012 15:46:35 GMT -5
Am I the only one here worried about McCarthy taking a liner off the noggin? Yeah....but have you seen his wife? Seriously, he has really found out how to pitch, throws strikes, and has a good WHIP. His last couple of years have shown marked improvement and much better command. Now.....have you seen his wife?
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 29, 2012 15:59:18 GMT -5
Am I the only one here worried about McCarthy taking a liner off the noggin? Yeah....but have you seen his wife? Seriously, he has really found out how to pitch, throws strikes, and has a good WHIP. His last couple of years have shown marked improvement and much better command. Now.....have you seen his wife? Just Googled Amanda McCarthy and I agree, wholeheartedly, Brandon's WHIP would be more than acceptable for this team.
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Post by jdb on Oct 29, 2012 18:10:49 GMT -5
This suggests that LAA is trying to trade Haren and Santana before their options need to be picked up. Heyman mentions a rebound from Haren could result in a draft pick in 2014. It all would depend on cost but I could live with Haren on a one year deal. www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/20740083/angels-exploring-trades-for-haren--greinke-before-option-decision-is-dueThe Los Angeles Angels have at least explored the possibility of trading starting pitchers Dan Haren and Ervin Santana before their options come due in a couple of days, executives with other teams said. The Angels have until three days after the World Series to decide whether to pick up Haren's $15.5 million option and Santana's $13 million option. The Los Angeles Times reported the Angels are likely to decline the options, and that seems to be the case based on their efforts to deal the pitchers.
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Post by jdb on Oct 30, 2012 18:13:59 GMT -5
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Post by wcsoxfan on Oct 30, 2012 22:43:00 GMT -5
That's a steal. Especially if that 3rd year buyout is included in the $29 mil as reports indicate.
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Post by elguapo on Oct 31, 2012 0:29:29 GMT -5
I'm intrigued by Villanueva as a buy-low option.
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Post by jro545454 on Oct 31, 2012 9:40:39 GMT -5
It was just announced that Dallas Braden was released by the A's. He has never put up good strikeout numbers but has always had good control. If he heals up from the arms injuries than he could be worth a shot. www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bradeda01.shtmlThoughts?
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 31, 2012 9:52:39 GMT -5
That's a big if... Braden had another shoulder surgery in August. It was supposedly a minor surgery, but it'll be almost two years since he's pitched. He may be looking for a minor league contract/NRI.
There'd never be any question about that dude's competitiveness, though.
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Post by jro545454 on Oct 31, 2012 10:23:13 GMT -5
AAA depth signing?
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 31, 2012 10:26:11 GMT -5
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 31, 2012 11:09:34 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports is reporting that the Angels are "agressively" pursuing a trade of Ervin Santana and Dan Haren. He states that one MLB executive believes a trade of one or both will be made.
Sorry, the link is long to record here.
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Post by jdb on Oct 31, 2012 11:52:07 GMT -5
Haren seems to be a perfect fit assuming the cost isnt crazy. Sure he had a bad year but i think alot is due to his back injury. The guy is a pretty sure bet to make 30 starts (8 straight years) and a sub 4.00 ERA. The lost velo is a concern but how much of that is related to the back? Like I said in a previous post he is a good bet to rebound and potentially get us a draft pick in the future or if we cant field a WC contender trade him for somebody who could help in 2014. I think he could be had for someone outside our top 10 or maybe they want a few MLB pen arms or Aceves?
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Post by larrycook on Oct 31, 2012 12:57:01 GMT -5
Haren seems to be a perfect fit assuming the cost isnt crazy. Sure he had a bad year but i think alot is due to his back injury. The guy is a pretty sure bet to make 30 starts (8 straight years) and a sub 4.00 ERA. The lost velo is a concern but how much of that is related to the back? quote] If the lost velocity is real, then wouldn't he be Josh Becket part 2 on our roster next year? If you are going to take a gamble on an injured pitcher, wouldn't Josh Johnson make more sense? His upside is huge if the shoulder holds together for the year.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 31, 2012 12:57:34 GMT -5
Haren seems to be a perfect fit assuming the cost isnt crazy. Sure he had a bad year but i think alot is due to his back injury. The guy is a pretty sure bet to make 30 starts (8 straight years) and a sub 4.00 ERA. The lost velo is a concern but how much of that is related to the back? Like I said in a previous post he is a good bet to rebound and potentially get us a draft pick in the future or if we cant field a WC contender trade him for somebody who could help in 2014. I think he could be had for someone outside our top 10 or maybe they want a few MLB pen arms or Aceves? I think he's my choice for the pitching acquisition of the off season for the above reasons. The Angels also really want Greinke and picking up Harens option was a risky move with that being their focus. I really can't picture the asking price being too high. Braden would be a nice pick up on a minor league contract assuming somebody like KC take a shot on him for an MLB contract
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 31, 2012 17:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by curll on Oct 31, 2012 19:42:56 GMT -5
Dan Haren seems like an astoundingly ideal pickup. High upside, low downside, one-year deal.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 1, 2012 7:53:02 GMT -5
If you are going to take a gamble on an injured pitcher, wouldn't Josh Johnson make more sense? His upside is huge if the shoulder holds together for the year. If you're going to gamble on an injured pitcher... don't.
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Post by remember04 on Nov 1, 2012 8:50:04 GMT -5
If you are going to take a gamble on an injured pitcher, wouldn't Josh Johnson make more sense? His upside is huge if the shoulder holds together for the year. If you're going to gamble on an injured pitcher... don't. Especially if its shoulder problems and the asking price would be too high for my liking.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Nov 1, 2012 9:05:46 GMT -5
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Post by jioh on Nov 1, 2012 9:15:40 GMT -5
That Haren has a $3.5M buyout gives them even more incentive to pick up the option and trade him, and they could possibly be induced to share some of that 3.5M in savings with the team that gets him. Here's a discussion both of that and especially the velocity issue. The crucial thing seems to be whether the back problem can be handled with exercise or treatment or is going to be chronic. www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-market-for-dan-haren/
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Post by jdb on Nov 1, 2012 9:15:49 GMT -5
Great news. I wonder what the cost would be? Santana went for a RP who Law said is a lefty specialist. Haren has more value but not sure what LAA would want. MLB pen arm like Aceves? If its a prospect would it be someone like Workman or Britton? I'd like to keep them but think each probably ends up in the pen and think Haren would be an asset at the deadline and it would be worth it. Haren is what we need. A very good bet to be above average and throw 200 innings on a one year deal. Not to mention it allows us to take it slow with Rubby.
This is taken from the above link about how he did after his DL stint.
When he returned on July 22, Haren saw far better results. Over his final 13 starts, Haren posted a 3.58 ERA, giving up 68 hits over 73 innings pitched, holding opposing batters to a .243/.282/.432 line. This looked a heck of a lot more like the guy that held opponents to a .235/.265/.365 slash line in 2011.
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Post by mjammz on Nov 1, 2012 10:25:12 GMT -5
Sounds like the Red Sox are definitely in on Haren.. and here is thie gem from the LA Times.
@mikedigiovanna: Would not be surprised if #Angels try to send Haren & Wells to #RedSox, maybe for Lackey.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Nov 1, 2012 10:36:23 GMT -5
It just shows how much Angels hate Wells. They are always thinking of every ways to get rid of Wells like we did to move Crawford a few months ago.
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Post by rcmark on Nov 1, 2012 10:45:49 GMT -5
Please, no Vernon Wells. Pretty please.
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