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Post by jdb on Mar 31, 2014 9:13:13 GMT -5
I don't understand why push Victorino? Just Dl him. It's a long year. Chances are this wont the the last time he has an issue. They have a capable player to help out. If I had to guess they're waiting on the April 15th cutoff on the Soxprospect prediction question.
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Post by soxfanatic on Mar 31, 2014 9:24:22 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 6 min. #RedSox: Nava RF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz. DH, Napoli 1B, Carp LF, Sizemore CF, Bogaerts SS, Pierzynski C, Middlebrooks 3B and Lester LHP.
Surprising to an extent to see Carp in there instead of Gomes.
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Post by jmei on Mar 31, 2014 9:25:59 GMT -5
#FreeJBJ
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Mar 31, 2014 9:32:05 GMT -5
Victorino to the DL. JBJ up to Boston.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 31, 2014 9:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by jmei on Mar 31, 2014 9:41:31 GMT -5
#StartJBJ
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Post by Guidas on Mar 31, 2014 9:44:18 GMT -5
Completely agree. Somewhat amazed JBJ is not in RF, Nava in LF.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Mar 31, 2014 10:01:16 GMT -5
Now I get workouts are controlled, but let's not pretend baseball is insanely taxing on the body. I remember Brian Jordan saying that baseball was a lot tougher on his body than football because of the sheer number of games and length of the season.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2014 10:10:45 GMT -5
Why does Farrell love terrible defensive outfields so much?
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Post by brianthetaoist on Mar 31, 2014 10:15:54 GMT -5
Why does Farrell love terrible defensive outfields so much? YES! First direct complaint about Farrell's lineup and still 4 hours to go before the first game ... baseball's back! Seriously, though: perhaps, in a reasonably small park like Camden, outfield defense just isn't all that important with a SO/GB pitcher on the mound like Lester. I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely throwing that out as a possibility ...
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Post by jmei on Mar 31, 2014 10:18:09 GMT -5
Why does Farrell love terrible defensive outfields so much? Because it gives him a better offensive lineup. You might think (as I do) that the defensive loss outweighs the offensive gain, but it's not like he's being totally crazy and irrational.
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Post by okin15 on Mar 31, 2014 10:21:10 GMT -5
I'm sure that Farrell will be liberal with his substitutions this afternoon. He'll likely pinch hit for Carp or Nava, and pinch run or play defense with Bradley.
ADD: he better be!
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 31, 2014 10:21:23 GMT -5
Now I get workouts are controlled, but let's not pretend baseball is insanely taxing on the body. I remember Brian Jordan saying that baseball was a lot tougher on his body than football because of the sheer number of games and length of the season. Yea that's just silly Brian Jordan, but maybe as a CB it's not far off. They take a lot less of a pounding than any other position - not counting the specialists. I do agree baseball and the schedule don't make it a walk in the park, it's just not nearly as intense as other sports. Mental fatigue is real though and it does affect your body.
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Post by jdb on Mar 31, 2014 10:27:44 GMT -5
I'm sure that Farrell will be liberal with his substitutions this afternoon. He'll likely pinch hit for Carp or Nava, and pinch run or play defense with Bradley. ADD: he better be! Kind of what I think. Get Carp a few ABs and hopefully bring JBJ in for D and get him a few as well.
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Post by jmei on Mar 31, 2014 10:38:42 GMT -5
Some scattered thoughts:
-Which is better versus RHP, a Carp/Sizemore/Nava outfield or a Nava/Sizemore/Bradley one? In other words, does Carp's offensive advantage over Bradley offset the defensive downgrade from Nava in LF and Bradley in RF to Carp in LF and Nava in RF? I prefer the Bradley configuration, but that's assuming that his Spring Training malaise doesn't carry over into the regular season.
-Because all of Sizemore, Nava, Carp, and Bradley bat from the left side, they'll now necessarily lose the platoon advantage at at least two of the three outfield positions every time they face a LHP while being unable to get all their LHH on the field versus RHP. This means that ideally, you'd want to replace either Carp or Bradley with Hassan or Brentz, but they're not going to trade Carp and they can't option Bradley because he's too valuable in CF when Sizemore needs a day off. This is a tangible example of the sort of roster inflexibility that have too many 1B/LF-types on the roster creates.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2014 10:42:19 GMT -5
Why does Farrell love terrible defensive outfields so much? Because it gives him a better offensive lineup. You might think (as I do) that the defensive loss outweighs the offensive gain, but it's not like he's being totally crazy and irrational. Yeah I know. I'm done bitching about it until it costs us a game.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2014 10:47:25 GMT -5
Some scattered thoughts: -Which is better versus RHP, a Carp/Sizemore/Nava outfield or a Nava/Sizemore/Bradley one? In other words, does Carp's offensive advantage over Bradley offset the defensive downgrade from Nava in LF and Bradley in RF to Carp in LF and Nava in RF? I prefer the Bradley configuration, but that's assuming that his Spring Training malaise doesn't carry over into the regular season. -Because all of Sizemore, Nava, Carp, and Bradley bat from the left side, they'll now necessarily lose the platoon advantage at at least two of the three outfield positions every time they face a LHP while being unable to get all their LHH on the field versus RHP. This means that ideally, you'd want to replace either Carp or Bradley with Hassan or Brentz, but they're not going to trade Carp and they can't option Bradley because he's too valuable in CF when Sizemore needs a day off. This is a tangible example of the sort of roster inflexibility that have too many 1B/LF-types on the roster creates. Maybe Farrell will give Napoli a few games off this season against tough RHP.
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 31, 2014 10:54:47 GMT -5
Napoli hit .248/.353/.464 against righties last season and .252/.348/.492 for his career, and he's also the best defensive first baseman on the team. So while it's likely that Farrell will try to work Napoli's regular rest to be on days where they are facing a righty, I hope it isn't too often. If he's healthy and continues to be productive, I want to see Napoli play 140+ games.
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Post by okin15 on Mar 31, 2014 11:07:38 GMT -5
So, if we had traded Carp, and planned to have Bradley on the initial 25-man roster a week ago, who woulda been the call-up? Hassan? I don't think that would be a better team than they have now.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 31, 2014 11:07:46 GMT -5
All good points. It becomes a lot clearer with Victorino on the DL. If they'd traded Carp, it would be moot. They just bring up one of those guys and there's the additional rightie bat. It's not an enormous problem, but it does skew the lineup.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Mar 31, 2014 11:11:24 GMT -5
No longer a lurker, time to participate. Love this website....not sure how much value I will add...at a minimum it will be muchlLove for our Red Sox prospects and team...and disdain for all things Yankee.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Mar 31, 2014 11:11:46 GMT -5
Some scattered thoughts: -Which is better versus RHP, a Carp/Sizemore/Nava outfield or a Nava/Sizemore/Bradley one? In other words, does Carp's offensive advantage over Bradley offset the defensive downgrade from Nava in LF and Bradley in RF to Carp in LF and Nava in RF? I prefer the Bradley configuration, but that's assuming that his Spring Training malaise doesn't carry over into the regular season. -Because all of Sizemore, Nava, Carp, and Bradley bat from the left side, they'll now necessarily lose the platoon advantage at at least two of the three outfield positions every time they face a LHP while being unable to get all their LHH on the field versus RHP. This means that ideally, you'd want to replace either Carp or Bradley with Hassan or Brentz, but they're not going to trade Carp and they can't option Bradley because he's too valuable in CF when Sizemore needs a day off. This is a tangible example of the sort of roster inflexibility that have too many 1B/LF-types on the roster creates.I'd only add: This is a tangible example of the sort of roster inflexibility having David Ortiz on the roster creates. If he could play the field regularly, the roster could look really different.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2014 11:15:41 GMT -5
Napoli hit .248/.353/.464 against righties last season and .252/.348/.492 for his career, and he's also the best defensive first baseman on the team. So while it's likely that Farrell will try to work Napoli's regular rest to be on days where they are facing a righty, I hope it isn't too often. If he's healthy and continues to be productive, I want to see Napoli play 140+ games. I was thinking when he's in his month long slumps.
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Post by semperfisox on Mar 31, 2014 11:21:36 GMT -5
sexy new road uniforms too.
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Post by jmei on Mar 31, 2014 11:29:16 GMT -5
So, if we had traded Carp, and planned to have Bradley on the initial 25-man roster a week ago, who woulda been the call-up? Hassan? I don't think that would be a better team than they have now. Think about it this way: if you think a Nava/Sizemore/Bradley outfield is a better (or equal) regular starting outfield (considering both offense and defense) than Carp/Sizemore/Nava, who would you rather have on your bench, Carp or Hassan? The answer is Hassan, because he can spell Bradley versus lefties, something that Carp can't do as effectively. Carp is a better pinch-hitter, but who is he going to pinch-hit for? The only real options are the catcher and maybe Middlebrooks, so you're not going to have the opportunity to use him in that role all that often. Carp can also occasionally spell Napoli or Ortiz, but neither looks like he needs too many days off (fingers crossed, knock on wood). (Of course, it wouldn't be crazy to prefer a Carp/Sizemore/Nava outfield over a Nava/Sizemore/Bradley one. Carp is certainly a better hitter than Bradley. But I think Carp is such a butcher in LF and Nava is so much worse in RF that you more than give up the offensive advantage on the defensive side.)
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