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4/15-4/17 Red Sox @ White Sox Series Thread
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2014 8:16:05 GMT -5
Yeah, it's just that Sizemore has a bad arm. He's really about equal to Nava in the field overall. He's not that good. Just has better speed for CF, but that's it.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2014 8:20:52 GMT -5
i am sorry..the inability to win games is grating, for sure.....but this 21 year old will have on the job training, and he is the type of generational player that we haven't developed since Roger Clemens. This is not fair at all. You're right, this is an admittedly extremely nit-picky criticism. But if Bogaerts is going to be the type of player we want him to be, this is the type of stuff he has to work on. I wouldn't mind if he got the Adam Dunn criticisms. (who btw has a 24.5% BB rate this year)
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2014 8:25:09 GMT -5
You can't help but think back to losing the game in 2012 where Chris Davis pitched for the O's. Maybe this will help turn things around. Looks like they went 3/17, 5 BB (1 IBB), 2B, 3 SF, GDP with RISP. And 1/20, 2B, 7 BB, HBP with the bases empty, 2/7, 3 BB, HBP with a runner on 1B. .136 / .359 / .182 overall .176 / .320 / .235 RISP .208 / .389 / .250 runners on *.050 / .321 / .100 bases empty
So despite the appearances, a reverse of the season-long trend (and very obviously ditto for the low walk rate). They hit like crap with RISP because they hit like crap, period. * Players over the course of a career have significant bases empty / runners on splits, but not significant man on 1B / RISP splits. IOW, RISP hitting per se is luck, but runners on hitting isn't always just luck. This makes sense when you figure that there is a default approach with the bases empty, and that any man on is going to change that approach, RISP or not. What about splits for pitchers working from windup/stretch?
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2014 8:35:10 GMT -5
Jon Shestakofsky @shesta_Sox
Elias confirms that the Red Sox are the 1st ML team since at least 1920 to reach base safely (H,BB,HBP) 23+ times with no more than 6 hits.
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Post by jmei on Apr 17, 2014 9:03:32 GMT -5
Yeah, it's just that Sizemore has a bad arm. He's really about equal to Nava in the field overall. He's not that good. Just has better speed for CF, but that's it. I think you're pushing it a bit here. Having great range is just much more important than having a strong arm, especially in left field. And while Sizemore doesn't have the elite range he used to, he still far outclasses Nava in that department.
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Post by jmei on Apr 17, 2014 9:06:08 GMT -5
One would think they might consider bringing a pitcher up to help out for a few days. Britton? Hill? Layne? Wilson? Well, Lester's on the mound today and hopefully can go deep into the game, while Uehara should be available out of the bullpen again-- all that should help. Plus, they don't have a relief pitcher with options in Boston (other than Tazawa, who is too good/important to option just for a fresh arm), so they don't really have the flexibility to bring someone up.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2014 10:06:07 GMT -5
He's really about equal to Nava in the field overall. He's not that good. Just has better speed for CF, but that's it. I think you're pushing it a bit here. Having great range is just much more important than having a strong arm, especially in left field. And while Sizemore doesn't have the elite range he used to, he still far outclasses Nava in that department. I'm not sure how great his range is. He doesn't seem to get good reads. And hey, there's our backup DH we need. Give him a 1b mitt too. Better than Carp in every aspect...
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 17, 2014 11:03:12 GMT -5
Sale against this offense is going to be painful. Rays - Yankees tonight is going to be a good one to watch - I may want to check out our competition.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 17, 2014 13:33:30 GMT -5
Sale against this offense is going to be painful. Rays - Yankees tonight is going to be a good one to watch - I may want to check out our competition. Hopefully our lefty is better than their lefty. The worm will turn today.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 17, 2014 14:18:35 GMT -5
One would think it is very important to have a relief staff where at least one of the relievers has options. Sounds like a roster construction issue to me. It would seem that we could fix that at some point. I thought this article today was decent: bleacherreport.com/tb/dcV4T?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=boston-red-soxIt's more than Bradley pushing the sox to retain him. Cherington meeting with Bradley on Tuesday. Farrell mum on the subject. Possible Carp considerations. Some indication that the team ( Pedroia? ) recognizes the impact of losing Ellsbury and needing speed up top. Possible discussions of Bogaerts role. I have to admit, I'm starting to think about Bogaerts range a little and how positive it can be to have a solid defense everywhere on the field. That was part of the equation last year. I have a way to go yet before taking Bogaerts off SS though. He will have growing pains though for sure. Is it possible that teams look at the Redsox right now and think it's best to not pitch the ball over the plate? Thinking someone will bite and swing and few are there to drive people in? That seems to be a recent trend.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 17, 2014 14:19:48 GMT -5
No way I'm for bring Mookie up even this year at all but he can't get here fast enough to me. We could use a lot more speed in this lineup and speed helps defensively as well.
Edit: It's darn tempting to just make Cechinni a left fielder and bring him up at some point after July. Additional speed and an opportunity to trade someone like Carp and not worry too much about losing the bat.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 17, 2014 14:52:43 GMT -5
Bogaerts apparently tweeted a photo by mistake of a lady taking a selfie in underwear. He deleted his account immediately. 1) he is human so who cares 2) he didn't tweet much anyways.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 17, 2014 15:41:37 GMT -5
Bogaerts apparently tweeted a photo by mistake of a lady taking a selfie in underwear. He deleted his account immediately. 1) he is human so who cares 2) he didn't tweet much anyways. His first scandalous moment as a major leaguer. I'm like a proud father right now.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 17, 2014 15:47:17 GMT -5
Bogaerts apparently tweeted a photo by mistake of a lady taking a selfie in underwear. He deleted his account immediately. 1) he is human so who cares 2) he didn't tweet much anyways. I'm not having any opinion until I see the picture.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 17, 2014 16:02:53 GMT -5
I think some people are overreacting to Sizemore's defensive shortcomings. He didn't play any baseball for over a year, surely he just needs some time to resharpen his instincts.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 17, 2014 16:16:19 GMT -5
Bogaerts apparently tweeted a photo by mistake of a lady taking a selfie in underwear. He deleted his account immediately. 1) he is human so who cares 2) he didn't tweet much anyways. I'm not having any opinion until I see the picture. You can search the net it's available. For me it was meh (if I was him that is, id be doing fine with that), but he'll get there he is young.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 17, 2014 16:40:17 GMT -5
You can't help but think back to losing the game in 2012 where Chris Davis pitched for the O's. Maybe this will help turn things around. Looks like they went 3/17, 5 BB (1 IBB), 2B, 3 SF, GDP with RISP. And 1/20, 2B, 7 BB, HBP with the bases empty, 2/7, 3 BB, HBP with a runner on 1B. .136 / .359 / .182 overall .176 / .320 / .235 RISP .208 / .389 / .250 runners on *.050 / .321 / .100 bases empty
So despite the appearances, a reverse of the season-long trend (and very obviously ditto for the low walk rate). They hit like crap with RISP because they hit like crap, period. * Players over the course of a career have significant bases empty / runners on splits, but not significant man on 1B / RISP splits. IOW, RISP hitting per se is luck, but runners on hitting isn't always just luck. This makes sense when you figure that there is a default approach with the bases empty, and that any man on is going to change that approach, RISP or not. What about splits for pitchers working from windup/stretch? The finding is that player differences between each man-on state and the bases empty all correlate to one another. IOW, players who hit better (or worse) with a man on 2nd than with the bases empty, over the course of their career, tend to be the same guys who hit better with a man on 3rd, or with men on 2nd and 3rd, or with just a man on 1st, or with runners on the corners, or with the bases full. Take any two such situations, look at the "clutch" differential of hitting versus the bases empty, make a list from most clutch to least, and there's a signfificant correlation between the two lists. The odds of it all being random, in the study I did (all active players and an I-forget number of years of retired ones), were about a trillion to one. If man-on hitting differences were random, none of the lists would have correlated with one another at all. That's the methodology, presented at SABR a few years ago, that convinced Dick Cramer (among others) that the differences were real. At some point I'll publish this and a mess of other stuff ...
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 17, 2014 17:10:14 GMT -5
Bogaerts apparently tweeted a photo by mistake of a lady taking a selfie in underwear. He deleted his account immediately. 1) he is human so who cares 2) he didn't tweet much anyways. I don't know how you can tweet a photo by mistake. Maybe re-tweet. I think it was a hack.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 17, 2014 17:59:14 GMT -5
It can happen especially if you are on a phone. The tweet didn't say anything, it just had a letter, I believe it had an L, so he probably was writing something clicked on the photo and panicked. Anyways it's not a big deal, it's not like it was a nude picture or anything.
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Post by bluechip on Apr 17, 2014 18:33:54 GMT -5
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Post by ikonos on Apr 17, 2014 19:09:55 GMT -5
Mature kid for owning up to it.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 17, 2014 19:16:40 GMT -5
Robbed of a run already.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 17, 2014 19:16:50 GMT -5
sonofabeech
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Post by ibsmith85 on Apr 17, 2014 19:19:38 GMT -5
Great catch. He's a ****head for doing it, but what a great catch.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 17, 2014 19:19:43 GMT -5
Well hey, at least we finally hit a home run...
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