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Post by kman22 on Aug 2, 2014 0:58:57 GMT -5
Easy compromise, the starters perform great, the lineup produces, and the bullpen blows a lot of games. Best case scenario?
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Post by sammo420 on Aug 2, 2014 9:30:46 GMT -5
Bregman. Cherington. Ranaudo. I'm pleading here. You forgot Buttery...I mean buttrey.
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 2, 2014 9:50:50 GMT -5
Bregman. Cherington. Ranaudo. I'm pleading here. I doubt it's going to change
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 3, 2014 8:33:12 GMT -5
BOS in the #8 draft spot this morning - 4.5 games out of an unprotected pick and 6.5 games out of the #1 pick.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Aug 4, 2014 21:22:12 GMT -5
Right now the teams worse than us (49-62 .441) are:
Philadelphia (49-63 .438) Arizona (49-63 .438) Chicago Cubs (47-63 .427) Houston (47-65 .420) Colorado (44-67 .396) Texas (43-68 .387) (Tied with CWS at time of post)
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 4, 2014 21:48:35 GMT -5
Some Area Code Games tweets re: Justin Hooper:
Clint Longenecker ?@clint_BA 1h Big, projectable LHP Justin Hooper had an electric outing. T95 in first with quick arm and fastball life to go w/ 4 pitch mix at ACG
Chris Rodriguez ?@chrisrod13 2h 6'7 LHP Justin Hooper has some stuff. 89-92 in 2nd inning of work with a good CH, arm speed was good. Breaking ball ranged from 73-79 mph.
Nathan Rode ?@nathanrode 3h LHP Justin Hooper (CA) sat 91-94, touched 95-96 in 1st inning of work with sharp curveball in mid 70s. Listed 6-7, 230.
Kiley McDaniel ?@kileymcd 3h NorCal prep lefty Justin Hooper might be the best high school pitcher in the country. 6'7/230 and 93-96 in his first inning at Area Codes.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 5, 2014 17:32:58 GMT -5
Has anyone started looking at which free agents will be given qualifying offers? Updating the list: More Likely Than Not:Hanley Ramirez Nelson Cruz Victor Martinez Ervin Santana Max Scherzer James Shields Non-Zero Chance:Josh Beckett Jorge De La Rosa Adam LaRoche (may not make sense with option buyout) Francisco Liriano Nick Markakis (may not make sense with option buyout) David Robertson Pablo Sandoval Koji Uehara
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Post by Guidas on Aug 5, 2014 18:00:55 GMT -5
Actually I think the Yankees being the Yankees QO Robertson. For them, an effective closer on a 1 year, $14M deal is a bargain. "Risk" is that on of the top 10 protected teams - Boston or Texas - make him a multiyear offer and it reduces their compensation opportunity.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 5, 2014 18:08:47 GMT -5
Actually I think the Yankees being the Yankees QO Robertson. For them, an effective closer on a 1 year, $14M deal is a bargain. "Risk" is that on of the top 10 protected teams - Boston or Texas - make him a multiyear offer and it reduces their compensation opportunity. Not the way the system works anymore. The team losing the QO players gets a draft pick, regardless of who signs them. The team signing the QO player loses a draft pick, and the protected picks only serve to determine which draft pick is lost.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 5, 2014 18:34:41 GMT -5
What the hell do you mean by non -zero Chance? Are you saying it's possibly but highly unlikely or just possible. Not trying to be difficult I just don't know how to respond...
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 5, 2014 18:53:18 GMT -5
What the hell do you mean by non -zero Chance? Are you saying it's possibly but highly unlikely or just possible. Not trying to be difficult I just don't know how to respond... Between 1-50%. More likely than not is >50%.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 5, 2014 18:59:21 GMT -5
Check out Nelson Cruz' monthly splits for an eye-opener. I assume he'd still get a QO even if all of his season's #s comes from April/May.
keithlaw ?@keithlaw 1h @based_ball: Nelson Cruz has been worth -0.5 WAR since the start of June” since the draft pick he cost?
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Post by kingofthetrill on Aug 5, 2014 21:41:36 GMT -5
Right now the teams worse than us (49-62 .441) are: Philadelphia (49-63 .438) Arizona (49-63 .438) Chicago Cubs (47-63 .427) Houston (47-65 .420) Colorado (44-67 .396) Texas (43-68 .387) (Tied with CWS at time of post) And now Philadelphia and Houston as well as Chicago (NL) and Colorado are playing each other, so one from each game has to win each day. Texas is also up 14-0 on Chicago (AL) although they eventually lost since my previous post.
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Post by larrycook on Aug 5, 2014 22:14:46 GMT -5
At our current rate, we still have a great shot at a top three pick.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Aug 5, 2014 22:39:28 GMT -5
The Phillies and the Astros don't want to loose ground tied at 1 in the 13th.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 6, 2014 9:04:12 GMT -5
With 50 games to go, here is where we stand:
If the season ended right now, BOS would have the #7 pick for the 2nd time in three years and TBR would have the first unprotected pick at #12:
1. TEX ---- 2. HOU (Aiken supplemental pick, locked in at #2) 3. COL -0.5 (five-game losing streak) 4. HOU -3.0 5. CHC -5.0 6. ARI -5.0 7. BOS -5.5 8. PHI -6.0 9. SDO -7.5 10. MIN -8.0 11. NYM -10.0 (only team on this list with a positive run differential) 12. TBR -10.0 13. CWS -10.5 14. MIA -11.5
BOS is 4.5 games out of an unprotected pick and 6.0 games out of the #1 pick.
(tiebreaker order of the above teams is HOU, MIA, CWS, CHC, MIN, PHI, COL, NYM, SDO, ARI, TEX, TBR, BOS)
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Aug 6, 2014 9:08:28 GMT -5
Plenty of time to pass the Diamondbacks and Cubs.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 6, 2014 9:20:25 GMT -5
Worst records since June 6:
1. TEX (13-39) 2. COL (16-36) 3. HOU (20-31) 4. SFO (21-31) 5t TOR (22-30) 5t. BOS (22-30)
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 6, 2014 9:30:37 GMT -5
No wonder Toronto didn't make (m)any moves.
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 6, 2014 10:02:31 GMT -5
I am dying to see Theo's grand plan here they are finally bringing up the kids. I guess he has the hitters but no pitching. I am curious if he is going to rebuild thru drafting the pitchers or are they gonna make a splash or trade?
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 6, 2014 11:43:23 GMT -5
I'll break it out into a different thread, if the conversation extends, but CHC has an amazing amount of payroll flexibility after this year, and I would expect them to utilize the free agent market for pitching rather than look to trade their position player assets.
By the end of next year, they could have Rizzo (1B), Bryant (LF), Baez (3B), Soler (RF), Russell (2B), Castro (SS), Alcantara (CF) and Castillo (C) in their lineup and Arrieta, Wada and Edwards in their rotation. Sign two free agents to upgrade Edwin Jackson and Travis Wood and, once the rookies mature, they'll be in business.
I don't believe Theo is in a rush to compete next year, so I wouldn't see any trades of long-term assets until at least 2016.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Aug 6, 2014 12:28:44 GMT -5
Remember when people were freaking out about Trey Ball in part because, "when will the Red Sox pick that high in the draft again?" Good times ...
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 6, 2014 12:37:12 GMT -5
It's crazy. The Sox, with practically very little reliable starting pitching and a still lousy offense, have a really good shot at finishing with the 3rd worst record just better than Texas and Colorado. The Cubs and Astros could pass the Sox, too, and they have a shot at being worse than Philly and Arizona.
I figure at worst they pick 8th and most likely at best they pick 4th as the Astros will get another pick because of failing to sign Aiken.
Don't know much about the draft class. Hope there is enough "Gotta get this guy" kind of players left when the Sox pick. When the Sox stunk in 2012 and picked 7th in 2013 it seemed like the premier players were off the board by the time the Sox picked.
I'd hope it wouldn't be that bad in 2014 and whether the Sox pick 4th or even 8th there is an extremely highly rated draftee to pick. I mean, I remember during the draft - I believe it was the 2013 draft, thinking to myself, how excited I'd be if I was a Cubs fan and saw Bryant get picked, and that's way before he ever was tearing up the minors. I hope we get to experience that feeling in June 2015.
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Post by sammo420 on Aug 6, 2014 14:49:42 GMT -5
Remember when people were freaking out about Trey Ball in part because, "when will the Red Sox pick that high in the draft again?" Good times ... I can easily handle alternating top ten picks with world series championships.
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 6, 2014 16:58:41 GMT -5
I tell you even though the Astros have two top picks I would not be a proud member of there orginization. I read after the tradedead line they reclassified the orginizations. So 1 was Cubs, 2 Twins, 3 Astros, 4 Mets. and 5 Red Sox.
Mets surprised me. But that made me think that we are not overvaluing our prospects. I mean the top 4 there is a lot of pressure to get results. I feel we have had good results from our prospects. Your not gonna hit on a lot of these kids. I wish Ben would build the bullpen from the homegrown arms, instead of bringing in a Breslow for 2 years. I have no problem with Breslow ,my problem is relief corps are year to year. If you have young reliable arms one year and they falter the next bringup the next wave. Between the options they carry you can mix and match year to year. Just something I noticed. But the Sox do a pretty good job. I dont know why but I see Workman as a Masterson type when he was with us. Someone who can start and give you innings in relief. He has done both. When we traded him I noticed a void. I think drafting all those goods arms and you can only have 5 starters and the Sox are gonn mix in veterans. So to use the talent we have convert some to the bullpen.
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