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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 31, 2016 13:47:52 GMT -5
I don't think Travis was going to see majors till September. Don't think Hanley or Shaw going to DL meant Travis was going to be called up. Like Chris said Rutledge and Hernandez would just fill in. It would have taken like Shaw, Hanley and Holt on DL for Travis to get called up. If that happens we are in a lot of trouble.
As to Holt being starter in LF he better watch out because if Swihart swings the bat like he did second half of last year he might be the starter for rest of season with Holt being brought in for D in latter innings.
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Post by azblue on May 31, 2016 15:33:24 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if Travis has the new ACL repair procedure that was featured in the Boston Globe 6-7 weeks ago.
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Post by radiohix on May 31, 2016 16:44:12 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if Travis has the new ACL repair procedure that was featured in the Boston Globe 6-7 weeks ago. Do you have a link to that story? I'm very interested in reading it.
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Post by jimed14 on May 31, 2016 16:48:09 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on May 31, 2016 16:49:44 GMT -5
Thank you very much JimEd!
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Post by jmei on May 31, 2016 17:01:14 GMT -5
To be clear, there is no chance that Travis undergoes that experimental new procedure. It's not close to being FDA-approved, having only recently cleared Phase 1 clinical trials (which only test for safety, not efficacy). In the best-case scenario, that procedure sails through Phase 2 and Phase 3 trials and the FDA approves it roughly five to ten years from now.
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Post by radiohix on May 31, 2016 17:19:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I was looking for article for other reasons (my girlfriend is a surgeon) than the Travis injury. Just to show her that my baseball addiction could benifit her in some ways
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Post by jimed14 on May 31, 2016 17:38:59 GMT -5
Someone should start testing that procedure on UCLs.
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Sam Travis
May 31, 2016 20:14:32 GMT -5
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Post by bluechip on May 31, 2016 20:14:32 GMT -5
With the positional flexibility of the big league club, there are ways to fill in at first. Shaw could play first with Holt playing third for example. First is accordingly the position that I'm least worried about in terms of depth. Except Holt is out with the second concussion of his career. Which could mean just the seven days, but also could linger for who knows how long, or could reoccur at any point after a dive or something else seemingly benign. Plus, he is already the starting LF, so I dunno how he's gonna fill in at both spots. Because Holt really does not need to start in left. There is depth there too. Plus they do not need him immediately.
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May 31, 2016 20:16:36 GMT -5
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Post by bluechip on May 31, 2016 20:16:36 GMT -5
With the positional flexibility of the big league club, there are ways to fill in at first. Shaw could play first with Holt playing third for example. First is accordingly the position that I'm least worried about in terms of depth. The problem is that the first base depth chart is almost the same as the third base depth chart. Shaw needs some days off and can't get them. Hanley is going to need more days off than he has gotten. Holt is fine for a fill-in, but one DL-trip for either Shaw or Hanley would have gotten Travis called up IMO. Do Shaw and Hanley really need MORE rest than they got when everyone was healthy? Plus, I'm not sure how Travis in AAA would get either one day of rest here or there.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 1, 2016 6:25:02 GMT -5
The problem is that the first base depth chart is almost the same as the third base depth chart. Shaw needs some days off and can't get them. Hanley is going to need more days off than he has gotten. Holt is fine for a fill-in, but one DL-trip for either Shaw or Hanley would have gotten Travis called up IMO. Do Shaw and Hanley really need MORE rest than they got when everyone was healthy? Plus, I'm not sure how Travis in AAA would get either one day of rest here or there. Shaw has played every game this year and he might be starting to wear down. He looks to me like he could use a few days off. And Hanley probably needs a day off per week. If Hanley needs a DL trip, Shaw won't get any days off. This is splitting hairs really. Sam Travis was useful depth for the major league team and this is a blow.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Jun 1, 2016 8:17:09 GMT -5
Agreed. Hanley looked a little ragged running last night. Not sure if that foot that was hit the other day is bothering him. I would like to see Hernandez get some reps @ 3B. Rotate Shaw/Hanley for a few days. AND STOP USING UEHARA/TAZAWA IN 4+ RUN LEADS.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 1, 2016 13:27:56 GMT -5
Do Shaw and Hanley really need MORE rest than they got when everyone was healthy? Plus, I'm not sure how Travis in AAA would get either one day of rest here or there. Shaw has played every game this year and he might be starting to wear down. He looks to me like he could use a few days off. And Hanley probably needs a day off per week. If Hanley needs a DL trip, Shaw won't get any days off. This is splitting hairs really. Sam Travis was useful depth for the major league team and this is a blow. I argued against all the rest JMEI was suggesting for Holt, Shaw, Papi, Pedey, and Hanley a little while back, but I've come around (too late of course, but since I don't make the lineup card...) Just wanted to put it out there that you two were right. Hopefully Farrell isn't citing my interwebs posts in his daily meetings with the trainers or GM. They could REALLY use a good LHH LF so that Holt can go back to his backup role, and the other guys can get a little rest. That said, it's not excusable that Holt hasn't spelled Shaw at third once or twice with a LH starter going against them.
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Sam Travis
May 20, 2017 14:35:25 GMT -5
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Post by wcsoxfan on May 20, 2017 14:35:25 GMT -5
In a few weeks he will be past super 2 status and I expect he will be called up to platoon with Moreland. However, if he could play a passable 3b, it would be a huge boost considering the other options. It was previously mentioned he played 3rd in college but lacked the athleticism and arm strength.
I figure it's worth testing him over there over the next couple of weeks. Has anyone who goes to pawsox games seen him take grounders at 3rd?
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Post by jimed14 on May 20, 2017 14:38:10 GMT -5
In a few weeks he will be past super 2 status and I expect he will be called up to platoon with Moreland. However, if he could play a passable 3b, it would be a huge boost considering the other options. It was previously mentioned he played 3rd in college but lacked the athleticism and arm strength. I figure it's worth testing him over there over the next couple of weeks. Has anyone who goes to pawsox games seen him take grounders at 3rd? From what I've read, he's not anything better than average at 1B. I can't imagine trying to give him more to work on since that's the case, though he is a very hard worker.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 22, 2017 13:27:13 GMT -5
He's below average at 1B and there's no reason to think he can play third base.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 22, 2017 13:43:08 GMT -5
He's below average at 1B and there's no reason to think he can play third base. Is this just going off when he was drafted, or a recent scouting report? Keith Law in his top 100 rankings rates his D a lot higher than below average.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 22, 2017 14:47:38 GMT -5
He's below average at 1B and there's no reason to think he can play third base. Is this just going off when he was drafted, or a recent scouting report? Keith Law in his top 100 rankings rates his D a lot higher than below average. OK, let me take that back. From the updated scouting report I'm hoping to put up in the next week or two: "Field: Solid athlete for a first baseman. Soft hands, confident picking balls out of the dirt. Potential above-average defender." Apologies. Might've been thinking of Ockimey there, plus Farrell's comments during ST that Travis needed to work on his D. Also, from the BA scouting report this offseason "His actions at first base remain inconsistent and sometimes clunky, though his tenacious work ethic convinces some evaluators that he can become average at the position." So at the very least, there's debate about how good he is on defense, although we say he could potentially be above-average (the implication being he's average now). That said, based on what I've seen, I don't believe his actions ("solid athlete for a first baseman" in our report) would fit at third, and I've never seen anyone discuss Travis as a fit there. It doesn't strike me that putting him at third for the first time as a professional, this close to the MLB call-up he'd be preparing to play the position for, when he's moving from first base as opposed to moving from second or short, wouldn't be a good call. Compare to Shaw, for example, who at least played a little 3B each year he was in the system, and theoretically was also taking ground balls there outside of game situations. You'd probably want him to get work there for a couple months before playing it in the majors - it's not as simple as sliding Bogaerts over from shortstop, y'know?
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Sam Travis
May 22, 2017 15:49:59 GMT -5
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Post by wcsoxfan on May 22, 2017 15:49:59 GMT -5
Is this just going off when he was drafted, or a recent scouting report? Keith Law in his top 100 rankings rates his D a lot higher than below average. OK, let me take that back. From the updated scouting report I'm hoping to put up in the next week or two: "Field: Solid athlete for a first baseman. Soft hands, confident picking balls out of the dirt. Potential above-average defender." Apologies. Might've been thinking of Ockimey there, plus Farrell's comments during ST that Travis needed to work on his D. Also, from the BA scouting report this offseason "His actions at first base remain inconsistent and sometimes clunky, though his tenacious work ethic convinces some evaluators that he can become average at the position." So at the very least, there's debate about how good he is on defense, although we say he could potentially be above-average (the implication being he's average now). That said, based on what I've seen, I don't believe his actions ("solid athlete for a first baseman" in our report) would fit at third, and I've never seen anyone discuss Travis as a fit there. It doesn't strike me that putting him at third for the first time as a professional, this close to the MLB call-up he'd be preparing to play the position for, when he's moving from first base as opposed to moving from second or short, wouldn't be a good call. Compare to Shaw, for example, who at least played a little 3B each year he was in the system, and theoretically was also taking ground balls there outside of game situations. You'd probably want him to get work there for a couple months before playing it in the majors - it's not as simple as sliding Bogaerts over from shortstop, y'know? Is there any word on him taking grounders/flyballs at another position in the past?
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Post by ramireja on May 22, 2017 16:00:59 GMT -5
He played a little third early on in college if I'm not mistaken. I actually do believe Keith Law once threw out the possibility of him playing 3rd but I can't find the quote now and think this was around the time of his draft. That said, I'm not an advocate of that potential experiment.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 22, 2017 16:15:52 GMT -5
OK, let me take that back. From the updated scouting report I'm hoping to put up in the next week or two: "Field: Solid athlete for a first baseman. Soft hands, confident picking balls out of the dirt. Potential above-average defender." Apologies. Might've been thinking of Ockimey there, plus Farrell's comments during ST that Travis needed to work on his D. Also, from the BA scouting report this offseason "His actions at first base remain inconsistent and sometimes clunky, though his tenacious work ethic convinces some evaluators that he can become average at the position." So at the very least, there's debate about how good he is on defense, although we say he could potentially be above-average (the implication being he's average now). That said, based on what I've seen, I don't believe his actions ("solid athlete for a first baseman" in our report) would fit at third, and I've never seen anyone discuss Travis as a fit there. It doesn't strike me that putting him at third for the first time as a professional, this close to the MLB call-up he'd be preparing to play the position for, when he's moving from first base as opposed to moving from second or short, wouldn't be a good call. Compare to Shaw, for example, who at least played a little 3B each year he was in the system, and theoretically was also taking ground balls there outside of game situations. You'd probably want him to get work there for a couple months before playing it in the majors - it's not as simple as sliding Bogaerts over from shortstop, y'know? Is there any word on him taking grounders/flyballs at another position in the past? Travis? Not as a professional that I can recall.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2017 6:51:14 GMT -5
In a couple weeks this team should promote Travis. They need a RHH compliment to Moreland and they need a hitter on the bench. I realize having 3 1b/DH types on the roster is not ideal but they need to do something here.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 23, 2017 7:39:23 GMT -5
I wonder if early season slow starts by Travis and Swihart playing in colder weather cities can be attributed in part to not wearing batting gloves. Certainly in cold, dry air the grip might slip more and gloves could benefit. Do batting gloves keep the hands warmer as I would think? In cold weather and without gloves I would hate to catch a ball on the bat end or the handle. That would make me less confident and aggressive. Psychologically at least I would think gloves could alleviate that a bit... while absorbing some of the vibration.
I remember Ted Williams, in the no glove days, usually started slower and 'heated up' when the weather became warmer and, in his words, more "hitterish".
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Post by iakovos11 on May 23, 2017 13:55:43 GMT -5
Per Pete Abraham, Travis called up (Velazquez down).
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 23, 2017 14:03:57 GMT -5
Let's hope he Pipps(a verb) Moreland.
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