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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 27, 2014 17:37:37 GMT -5
And both Badler and Cameron acknowledge the "4th outfielder" label was based on his playing in Cuba and that it was adjusted after his recent workouts. Where? Finally, I don't see the "backhanded compliments." His conclusion is "This might not work, but it seems like a good bet for a team with the Red Sox financial resources." and he mostly seems to be positive. I took it as him covering himself up. He writes it as a gamble, which it is, but never takes any sort of position on it. If the move works, hey he said it would. If it doesn't, he said it was a gamble all along. I'm a journalist and that's bad way of covering your base. So even when he's talking nice things about the signing, he follows it up with something much less enthusiastic. It's a free country though, you might appreciate a non informative article without actual opinion and based on second hand speculation. So yeah, i guess I completely disagree with your characterization of the article, and also don't see its usefulness. That's a little rash isn't it? I don't see the usefulness of the article, but I got nothing against your opinion. Shouldn't it be like that? Are you secretly Dave Cameron? Taking the last part first, I meant the article's usefulness, not the usefulness of your characterization of it. I think this means I agree with your second point that he's not really saying anything. On the first part, I guess Cameron doesn't on second reading, but the article he cites, by Badler, is literally titled "Scouts Update Reports on Castillo", and says, first "Some scouts who had followed Castillo with the Cuban national team felt he would be a steady, everyday center fielder in the big leagues, while others felt he would fit best as a fourth outfielder, with good speed and defense in center field, a line-drive stroke, an aggressive hitting approach and occasional power." and then later says " Before Castillo’s rapid strength increase, he was a similar player to Rajai Davis, a 5-foot-9, 195-pound righthanded-hitting outfielder, when they were the same age.", so the implication throughout is that the 4th outfielder label was before the strength increase. It then closes with " That, however, was before Castillo increased his raw power. If Castillo can give teams comparable production to Davis at the same age with a little extra pop, he might not be a star like Yoenis Cespedes or Jose Abreu, but that’s a very solid everyday player, with no draft picks or prospects to surrender to acquire him."(Just thinking, we're putting a lot of stock in that aren't we?) I guess I just assumed that Cameron was making the same implications by writing something entirely about Badler's article. Could be wrong there.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 27, 2014 22:42:47 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 6m
Rusney Castillo has obtained his work visa and is eligible to play in games, according to Juan Perez, CEO of Roc Nation Sports.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 28, 2014 9:54:42 GMT -5
Doing long toss and batting cage, according to Globe
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 28, 2014 10:18:03 GMT -5
Admitted stupid statement to follow.
When Castillo is ready, I'm hoping the Sox send down Mookie if it would keep his rookie eligibility in tact.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Aug 29, 2014 8:53:49 GMT -5
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 30, 2014 5:32:01 GMT -5
@peteabe: Farrell makes it official: Rusney Castillo will play for the GCL #RedSox on Sunday. Game 2 of GCL finals vs. #Yankees at the Fort
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Post by jimoh on Aug 30, 2014 5:39:56 GMT -5
espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/40071/coach-recalls-castillos-emergence-in-2011Edes interviews former Euro-scout/coach, who says good things about both getting on base and his pro-busing-up strength: "He was a vry difficult out for us, that’s the first thing that comes to mind,’’ Farley said by phone Friday from his home in Zuid Scharwoude, a suburb about 25 miles north of Amsterdam. “He led off in both tournaments, set the table extremely well, and had a disciplined strike zone; he was really focused on getting on base.’’ Farley was surprised to hear that Castillo is now listed at 205 pounds, despite his 5-foot-9 frame. That’s considerably bigger than when he saw him. “He had surprising power for his size,’’ he said. “Obviously, he was very fast, but he also was strong, with short leverage and a short swing. He was very tough to beat with a fastball; he was very quick in the zone.’’
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Post by jmei on Aug 30, 2014 8:17:14 GMT -5
That's a random and outdated scouting report, but it's still optimistic to see. The biggest question about Castillo is his hit tool (which includes considerations about his ability to make contact and plate discipline).
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Post by godot on Aug 30, 2014 8:23:33 GMT -5
As suspected Henry admits that they were motivated to bid high for him because they were outbid by the White Sox for Abreu. It is good to see JH play the role of check signer.
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Post by jmei on Aug 30, 2014 8:43:37 GMT -5
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Post by larrycook on Sept 1, 2014 20:18:33 GMT -5
Are we really sure this guy is the real deal?
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Post by redsox4242 on Sept 1, 2014 20:20:45 GMT -5
That's the 70 million question.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 1, 2014 20:57:37 GMT -5
Why is this good? I thought the Sox should just be signing on player valuations...that is the narrative thrown around by BC and the majority of this website. This confirms my original suspicion..this signing was reactionary and partly based on desperation of the outfield construction going into 2015. I see no reason to think highly of this.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Sept 2, 2014 1:16:32 GMT -5
Why is this good? I thought the Sox should just be signing on player valuations...that is the narrative thrown around by BC and the majority of this website. This confirms my original suspicion..this signing was reactionary and partly based on desperation of the outfield construction going into 2015. I see no reason to think highly of this. As Henry is a trader - I believe this does mean 'they are being desperate' but actually means 'they are trying to acquire players at less than their market value and badly misjudged the Cuban free agent market for Jose Abreu'. The change in philosophy is adapting to how the market values Cuban players. The article leads me to believe that the Red Sox REALLY wanted Abreu and simply screwed up in their bid by going much lower than how they individually valued him. They weren't going to do that again. Now let's hope that they their value of Castillo as being a 72mil+ player is correct.
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Post by aussiesox on Sept 12, 2014 12:36:50 GMT -5
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Post by jmei on Sept 12, 2014 14:14:07 GMT -5
That's the most extensive scouting report I've seen on Castillo, especially the breakdown of his bat, and definitely worth reading in its entirety.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 12, 2014 14:16:01 GMT -5
I hope there are enough crabby fans who have stopped watching that aren't going to criticize Castillo when he comes up. He is quite rusty as expected after not playing for 18 months.
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Post by arzjake on Sept 13, 2014 11:39:16 GMT -5
I think the plan should include a call up to the Sox for the last few weeks this season. Play a handful of games preferrably against opposing teams #4 5 starters to get his feet wet. Spring training and start 15 in AA or AAA depending on the way rosters shape up. Let him get his feet wet in the minors before taking over a position at the ML level...
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Post by sibbysisti on Sept 13, 2014 15:15:47 GMT -5
I think the plan should include a call up to the Sox for the last few weeks this season. Play a handful of games preferrably against opposing teams #4 5 starters to get his feet wet. Spring training and start 15 in AA or AAA depending on the way rosters shape up. Let him get his feet wet in the minors before taking over a position at the ML level... Isn't that what he's doing now; getting his feet wet? He's been to GCL, AA, now 3A, soon to play at the ML level. If he's 27 and, with his experience, shouldn't he be pencilled in to start 2015 in CF? How much wetter do you want him to be?
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 13, 2014 18:48:50 GMT -5
I think the plan should include a call up to the Sox for the last few weeks this season. Play a handful of games preferrably against opposing teams #4 5 starters to get his feet wet. Spring training and start 15 in AA or AAA depending on the way rosters shape up. Let him get his feet wet in the minors before taking over a position at the ML level... Isn't that what he's doing now; getting his feet wet? He's been to GCL, AA, now 3A, soon to play at the ML level. If he's 27 and, with his experience, shouldn't he be pencilled in to start 2015 in CF? How much wetter do you want him to be? It's more about him being in spring training mode after not playing for 18 months.
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Post by sibbysisti on Sept 13, 2014 20:47:46 GMT -5
Why does he need to be in Spring Training "mode" rather than anyone else? He'll probably go to AFL or some winter BB activity.
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Post by burythehammer on Sept 14, 2014 4:28:17 GMT -5
Yes, the best way to get him back to major league readiness is to continue having him not play in major league games for as long as possible.
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Post by GyIantosca on Sept 14, 2014 6:57:57 GMT -5
Can't wait imagine our lineup now. What kind of pressure we are gonna put on teams.
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Post by soxfanatic on Sept 15, 2014 15:35:34 GMT -5
Rob Bradford ?@bradfo 36 min. Hourly Rusney update: Now hearing from those close to situation very good chance plays both AFL and in Puerto Rico. PR stay about month
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Post by Guidas on Sept 15, 2014 16:29:49 GMT -5
Interesting Projo podcast with Ben Badler that is almost ALL Castillo, who Badler scouted and recently saw in the PawSox-Bulls series. www.providencejournal.com/sports/red-sox/content/20140914-red-sox-podcast-the-outlook-for-rusney-castillo.ecePegs him as a Raji Davis in his prime (cites two Oakland years) with more pop. So approx .280/.330/.420 with good to very good D and plus wheels. (f he does that I think everyone here will be happy - IF they can find a place for Mookie). Talks about the swing having very little loft making him more of a line drive hitter. Also, Badler's as mystified as everyone else as to what Sox will do in the off season with all these outfielders.
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