|
Post by jimed14 on May 26, 2015 7:16:25 GMT -5
it's easy to see a scenario where character risk is equal to medical risk, but then again, Aiken was 1-1, not in the 20s.
|
|
|
Post by jimed14 on May 26, 2015 7:23:51 GMT -5
I hesitate whenever anyone compares a player to Trout as an athlete. Brandon Jacobs probably could be compared to Trout also. Or Shaq Thompson. Let's compare hit tools when comparing players to all-time greats.
|
|
|
Post by philarhody on May 26, 2015 7:51:49 GMT -5
Hooper has been very inconsistent this spring and hasn't been a able to throw strikes. Most of the recent public rankings I've seen don't have have him in their top 30. I think he may end up going to College. If Hooper had been consistent this spring he wouldnt be available at 7. The fact is, every prospect in this draft has major warts, be it injury concern, inconsistency, or lack of ceiling.
|
|
|
Post by vermontsox1 on May 26, 2015 8:17:58 GMT -5
Hooper has been very inconsistent this spring and hasn't been a able to throw strikes. Most of the recent public rankings I've seen don't have have him in their top 30. I think he may end up going to College. If Hooper had been consistent this spring he wouldnt be available at 7. The fact is, every prospect in this draft has major warts, be it injury concern, inconsistency, or lack of ceiling. He's also said to be looking for a very large signing bonus....can't find a link but I believe the BA crew talked about it on one of their recent podcasts. He is looking for about $4mil, I believe. Could be a smokescreen, but if I'm the Sox I'm not taking someone so raw at #7, especially when I won't be saving any money (and could in fact have to go overslot to sign him). And I disagree, I think if Hooper dominated then he still might be available in our range. There are other HS pitchers that have pitched well, too...it's just the nature of HS pitching being volatile that makes these guys risky.
|
|
|
Post by jimed14 on May 26, 2015 8:56:11 GMT -5
Hooper has been very inconsistent this spring and hasn't been a able to throw strikes. Most of the recent public rankings I've seen don't have have him in their top 30. I think he may end up going to College. If Hooper had been consistent this spring he wouldnt be available at 7. The fact is, every prospect in this draft has major warts, be it injury concern, inconsistency, or lack of ceiling. Check out the first page of this thread for fun. Actually, the first 3 posts.
|
|
|
Post by boomer on May 26, 2015 9:12:01 GMT -5
I hesitate whenever anyone compares a player to Trout as an athlete. Brandon Jacobs probably could be compared to Trout also. Or Shaq Thompson. Let's compare hit tools when comparing players to all-time greats. I don't disagree. Trout comparisons are hallucinations. OTOH Ryan Westmoreland might be an appropriate comp.
|
|
|
Post by pedroelgrande on May 26, 2015 11:13:34 GMT -5
Hooper has been very inconsistent this spring and hasn't been a able to throw strikes. Most of the recent public rankings I've seen don't have have him in their top 30. I think he may end up going to College. If Hooper had been consistent this spring he wouldnt be available at 7. The fact is, every prospect in this draft has major warts, be it injury concern, inconsistency, or lack of ceiling. I was adding relevant info of why he most probably won't be an option. I haven't seen anyone have him this spring anywhere near the 7th player in draft for the reason I already outlined. I actually like him, as I did in the 1st page of this thread. But he just hasn't taken a step forward to be an option at 7th. He is tall throws hard but doesn't know where it's going and needs to clean up his delivery. If the Red Sox picked in the 20s I'd say it was more realistic.
|
|
|
Post by mookiemagicfan on May 26, 2015 12:30:02 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by mookiemagicfan on May 26, 2015 12:34:09 GMT -5
Love that this was from August of last year. So money
|
|
|
Post by mjammz on May 26, 2015 12:40:07 GMT -5
Last week Keith Law mocked Daz Cameron to the Sox. On Keith Law's Personal Website he talks about how he posted his latest mock, but already is going to change some picks, specifically the Red Sox pick.
|
|
|
Post by jrffam05 on May 26, 2015 12:57:06 GMT -5
My brain is relating Camron to Colin Moran in 2013 as the one guy I don't want to see the Red Sox draft.
|
|
|
Post by taftreign on May 26, 2015 12:57:36 GMT -5
From Kileys chat:
12:49 Comment From Sean S Kiley, Hearing anything on a team biting on Justin Hooper’s $4M asking price, or is he headed to UCLA? 12:49 Kiley McDaniel: Sounds like school
|
|
|
Post by Chris Hatfield on May 26, 2015 12:58:44 GMT -5
My brain is relating Camron to Colin Moran in 2013 as the one guy I don't want to see the Red Sox draft.
|
|
nomar
Veteran
Posts: 10,793
|
Post by nomar on May 26, 2015 13:04:29 GMT -5
Some buzz of Tucker to Houston at 5, but they're so hard to predict. I think he's the best bat in the draft, but he's going to be a COF, so there will be pressure on the bat. Crazy potential though. I would rather have him than a HS arm. I'd love if we chose him, and really hope he doesn't fall to the Cubs.
|
|
|
Post by ramireja on May 26, 2015 13:31:07 GMT -5
My top ten:
1. Dillon Tate 2. Carson Fulmer 3. Brendan Rogers 4. Alex Bregman 5. Andrew Benintendi 6. Kolby Allard 7. Kyle Tucker 8. Dansby Swanson 9. Brady Aiken 10. Ian Happ
A couple notes: I really want a pitcher in this draft, but I'm just not that comfortable with any name other Tate or Fulmer....Allard would be next on my list. Despite my affinity for a pitcher, I see a number of bats having higher floors in this draft and that is reflected in my list.
Also, I know Swanson is unlikely to drop to us, but even if he did I have 7 players ahead of him. Not sure why but I just can't get excited about about his profile. Its probably because he seems like Deven Marrero with a full grade higher of a hit tool. I understand thats a very valuable major leaguer but just isn't as appealing to me for some irrational reason.
|
|
nomar
Veteran
Posts: 10,793
|
Post by nomar on May 26, 2015 13:48:31 GMT -5
1. Tate 2. Rogers 3. Fulmer 4. Tucker 5. Swanson 6. Bregman 7. Benintendi 8. Jay 9. Allard 10. Stephenson
|
|
|
Post by jrffam05 on May 26, 2015 14:22:17 GMT -5
My brain is relating Camron to Colin Moran in 2013 as the one guy I don't want to see the Red Sox draft. video Mistyped. I spelt it correctly in the past.
|
|
|
Post by Chris Hatfield on May 26, 2015 14:27:43 GMT -5
Mistyped. I spelt it correctly in the past. You gave me the opportunity to reference Killa Cam. Wasn't making fun of you.
|
|
|
Post by jdb on May 26, 2015 16:52:41 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by vermontsox1 on May 26, 2015 17:18:00 GMT -5
Article also says he is a 4-star WR recruit for the University of South Carolina. He says he would need to be drafted in the top three rounds to forgo college/football.
|
|
|
Post by pedroelgrande on May 26, 2015 17:18:29 GMT -5
Great find. Some of those link end up actually happening, I remember local media connected the Red Sox to Sean Coyle and Peter Hisey in their draft year. Probably others too that I can't remember.
|
|
|
Post by vermontsox1 on May 26, 2015 17:23:14 GMT -5
|
|
steveofbradenton
Veteran
Watching Spring Training, the FCL, and the Florida State League
Posts: 1,823
|
Post by steveofbradenton on May 26, 2015 18:14:30 GMT -5
After watching those Kyle Tucker videos, I may have changed my mind. Quite impressive. I would be ecstatic with us going young with Tucker or Allard, if Fulmer is not available. I know the Sox seem to be really interested in Bregman, but I'm getting less and less on his band-wagon.
|
|
|
Post by FenwayFanatic on May 26, 2015 18:16:04 GMT -5
Between Jay, Tate, Swanson, Bregman, Nikorak, Rodgers, Fulmer, and Tucker, it seems like we'll get a pretty good prospect. But then again, we said the same thing looking at the guys available in 2013.
|
|
|
Post by Chris Hatfield on May 26, 2015 18:16:49 GMT -5
After watching those Kyle Tucker videos, I may have changed my mind. Quite impressive. I would be ecstatic with us going young with Tucker or Allard, if Fulmer is not available. I know the Sox seem to be really interested in Bregman, but I'm getting less and less on his band-wagon. Eh, be careful basing your opinion only on videos. Based purely on highlight videos, you'd think that those guys from the And1 Mixtape Tour would've taken over the NBA by now, for example. You're not going to find the video of "Kyle Tucker fooled badly by a mediocre breaking ball" or "Justin Hooper can't find the plate for an inning" or anything like that.
|
|