steveofbradenton
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 24, 2015 15:38:30 GMT -5
These past two games have been oh so refreshing. Still things to work on, but seems like the energy level had picked up after fridays embarrassment Lets KEEP IT UP Guys!!!
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Post by johnsilver52 on May 24, 2015 15:40:22 GMT -5
Didn't Farrell say last year, like right after they resigned him that he was going to make an effort to not pitch him in back to back games if it wasn't save situations? Something along those lines? Like others above said. Just because he warmed up doesn't mean he has to pitch, he can throw simulated AB's in front of a coach out there, this is what finished his season last August.
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Post by soxfan06 on May 24, 2015 15:41:06 GMT -5
10 ER in Miley's last 5 starts. Proving to be what many expected when we acquired him, someone who can eat inning at a little above league average pitching level with room to improve.
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Post by soxfan06 on May 24, 2015 15:42:03 GMT -5
Didn't Farrell say last year, like right after they resigned him that he was going to make an effort to not pitch him in back to back games if it wasn't save situations? Something along those lines? Like others above said. Just because he warmed up doesn't mean he has to pitch, he can throw simulated AB's in front of a coach out there, this is what finished his season last August. Farrell is clueless out there. No point trying to dissect what he says.
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Post by bigpupp on May 24, 2015 15:58:44 GMT -5
Didn't Farrell say last year, like right after they resigned him that he was going to make an effort to not pitch him in back to back games if it wasn't save situations? Something along those lines? Like others above said. Just because he warmed up doesn't mean he has to pitch, he can throw simulated AB's in front of a coach out there, this is what finished his season last August. I remember it being said on more than 1 occasion in 2013 that once Koji is warmed up he will enter the game no matter what.
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Post by cologneredsox on May 24, 2015 16:16:39 GMT -5
Xander rocks!
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Post by jmei on May 24, 2015 17:04:28 GMT -5
I don't really know what to say other than yes if he's warming up you should let him pitch as been mentioned a gazillion times. And the game was much closer a few minutes ago. I fail to see the logic in that statement. I see this as a variant of sunk cost theory: the warm-up has already been spent, nothing can be done about that; why compound the cost by then pitching him in the game? Surely any member of a MLB bullpen can be tasked to protect a five run lead. And, should one or more falter, well, your closer is warmed up. I think the argument is that someone has to pitch that inning, and if the marginal difference between warming up and not pitching and warming up and pitching is small enough, you'd rather just use Uehara rather than burning someone else. Not sure I buy it, but I think that's the logic behind it. I also think a contributing factor is that Farrell is starting to feel the wobbly chair (read: his job security is precarious). They're off to a pretty bad start and don't have much of a margin for error, which means you do everything you can to win the games you should be winning, which might incentivize him to use Uehara/Tazawa more often than he should (which is good in the short term but bad in the long term).
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Post by benogliviesbrother on May 24, 2015 17:16:14 GMT -5
I fail to see the logic in that statement. I see this as a variant of sunk cost theory: the warm-up has already been spent, nothing can be done about that; why compound the cost by then pitching him in the game? Surely any member of a MLB bullpen can be tasked to protect a five run lead. And, should one or more falter, well, your closer is warmed up. I think the argument is that someone has to pitch that inning, and if the marginal difference between warming up and not pitching and warming up and pitching is small enough … Right. Is there data to suggest the marginal difference is small? Or is this merely a case of those who have played the game claiming knowledge they don't possess?
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Post by jmei on May 24, 2015 17:18:17 GMT -5
¯\_(?)_/¯
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Post by grandsalami on May 24, 2015 17:29:31 GMT -5
Didn't Farrell say last year, like right after they resigned him that he was going to make an effort to not pitch him in back to back games if it wasn't save situations? Something along those lines? Like others above said. Just because he warmed up doesn't mean he has to pitch, he can throw simulated AB's in front of a coach out there, this is what finished his season last August. Koji was warning with a two run lead. Farrell has said numerous times that if he is warming he is going in. Otherwise it's a waste.
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 24, 2015 18:37:22 GMT -5
Wade Miley - when he pitches well - makes the team look good. I mean, esthetically, it just looks like a good team. Innings go by quickly, the team plays at a crisp pace, it seems like they are up to bat all the time ... results-wise, it's not important, but it's a pretty pleasing thing to watch.
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Post by nomar on May 24, 2015 18:40:17 GMT -5
Didn't Farrell say last year, like right after they resigned him that he was going to make an effort to not pitch him in back to back games if it wasn't save situations? Something along those lines? Like others above said. Just because he warmed up doesn't mean he has to pitch, he can throw simulated AB's in front of a coach out there, this is what finished his season last August. Koji was warning with a two run lead. Farrell has said numerous times that if he is warming he is going in. Otherwise it's a waste. This is such a dumb way of thinking. An actual IP is probably 5 times as strenuous on an arm as warming up is. He'd still have been better off not throwing. Not insulting you, because I totally believe that is how Farrell thinks.
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Post by ericmvan on May 24, 2015 18:52:12 GMT -5
Koji was warning with a two run lead. Farrell has said numerous times that if he is warming he is going in. Otherwise it's a waste. This is such a dumb way of thinking. An actual IP is probably 5 times as strenuous on an arm as warming up is. He'd still have been better off not throwing. Not insulting you, because I totally believe that is how Farrell thinks. It's quite possible that this is one of those rules of thumbs you implement in principle in order to ward off counter-productive strategy. If you have this rule of thumb, it makes you much more vigilant about who you ask to warm up, and will absolutely lessen the number of bullets that pitchers waste in the bullpen. If that's the case, there's of course little reason to stick with it rigidly. You could, for instance, modify the rule to exempt physically fragile closers who are warming up while their team is having a big inning at the plate that makes using them unnecessary.
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Post by atzar on May 24, 2015 19:19:35 GMT -5
Also of note: Panda's pinch-hit appearance was from the left side against a left-handed pitcher. Possibly a good omen, especially since he got a hit (not because that's at all significant statistically, but because that may provide positive reinforcement to continue that experiment).
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 24, 2015 19:27:51 GMT -5
I don't know what happens on WED , but I'd expect Bianchi to be here for 2 weeks, barring some development. I am not scientif and go by FEEL. lol. :-) I agree with ALL your points but I still think he will be DFA'd. If you lived in Las Vegas I would bet you lunch :-) Bianchi may get DFA'd within a couple weeks, but doesn't mean he isn't going back to AAA. You are a rookie, so you have a talent for FEEL that others lack.
But on Soxprospects.com, even rookies are not allowed to just get rid of players so cavalierly.
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Post by larrycook on May 24, 2015 19:45:20 GMT -5
Also of note: Panda's pinch-hit appearance was from the left side against a left-handed pitcher. Possibly a good omen, especially since he got a hit (not because that's at all significant statistically, but because that may provide positive reinforcement to continue that experiment). Has anybody got a timeline on when sandavol will be recovered enough to play third base again?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 24, 2015 19:58:33 GMT -5
In case anyone else was wondering why it was Bianchi instead of Weeks, Weeks was placed on the DL today in Pawtucket.
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Post by gerry on May 24, 2015 21:27:01 GMT -5
Bianchi: depth for Weeks. Weeks: depth for Holt. Holt : depth for everyone. Marrero, Cecchini, Coyle, Shaw swithing positions. Ben is literally covering all the bases very well.
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Post by ericmvan on May 25, 2015 13:52:07 GMT -5
Disturbing trend. David Ortiz HRs that would have gone out in all 30 MLB parks: 2014 through July 27: 11 in 315 times making contact (.035). Since: 2 in 233 (.009) The power decline has been masked by his hitting just 2 cheap HRs (out in 5 or fewer parks) in the first sample versus 6 in the second. Edit: 2014's first half was extraordinary ... from 2010 to 2013 he averaged 8 of these moonshots per year. Still, 2 in 4 1/2 months (1 last fall, 1 this year) is a big dropoff. BTW, if you lower the bar to 29 ballparks, Ortiz''s slump remains unchanged ... 2 monster HRs in 236 times making contact. But Mike Napoli did it in three successive times making contact Saturday and Sunday. And the HR in 29 ballparks (Sunday's) went 450 feet (standard distance).
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