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Post by atzar on Jun 26, 2015 21:40:05 GMT -5
Haaahaha, Mookie forgot that Porcello pitched in his postgame interview.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 26, 2015 21:40:30 GMT -5
The post game on the field interview w/Mookie is particularly banal tonight.
Add: Yes, the interview was so jarringly bad that Mookie forgot the starting pitcher's name.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 26, 2015 21:40:59 GMT -5
Mookie straight up blanked on who the Sox starting pitcher was during his post game interview. Harmless, but if it was Hanley or Pablo, and an L instead of a W, they'd probably get ripped for it.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 26, 2015 21:44:13 GMT -5
... if it was Hanley or Pablo, and an L instead of a W, they'd probably get ripped for it. But Mookie's not fat or a jake, so what's your point?
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Post by nomar on Jun 26, 2015 22:58:29 GMT -5
... if it was Hanley or Pablo, and an L instead of a W, they'd probably get ripped for it. But Mookie's not fat or a jake, so what's your point? Not many jakes on this team though.
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Post by dcsoxfan on Jun 27, 2015 5:03:21 GMT -5
Seriously, are home plate umpires being paid by the strike this year? Have to wonder how much of the Red Sox hitting problems this year are a product of MLB's "bigger, better" strike zone: 1. How long does it take a player with plate discipline to adjust to a change in the strike zone? I know there are daily fluctuations even in the best case, but how would a longer term change affect them? 2. Are there players on the roster (Napoli?) who don't have the contact skills to cover the strike zone? 3. Is the Red Sox' strike zone just a little larger than that if the other teams? There's been a lot of grumbling about the Red Sox grinding style slowing down the game and the Red Sox getting breaks on the calls over the years; might there now be a sub-conscious bias in the other direction? From a glance (no analysis -- just an impression) it appears BB rates are down across the system , which might suggest the FO sees the same thing.
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Post by soxfan1615 on Jun 27, 2015 5:34:56 GMT -5
Mookie straight up blanked on who the Sox starting pitcher was during his post game interview. Harmless, but if it was Hanley or Pablo, and an L instead of a W, they'd probably get ripped for it. Or if either had overrun second base like Mookie did we'd hear lots of "fat slob" comments or "headcase" ones. They literally get blamed for everything
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 27, 2015 8:08:05 GMT -5
Mookie straight up blanked on who the Sox starting pitcher was during his post game interview. Harmless, but if it was Hanley or Pablo, and an L instead of a W, they'd probably get ripped for it. Nice strawman argument. You listening to Felger? Nobody cares what happens after the game. Players deserve to be criticized for in-game mistakes though. Glad you're enjoying Kung Fu Panda and Return of Hanley. Two movies I wish I had never seen.
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Post by nomar on Jun 27, 2015 8:37:10 GMT -5
Hanley is going to be one of the top ten hitters in baseball as a DH, so we'll see if the tone changes then.
Sandoval truly has been terrible throwing the ball, and his defense has hurt this team situationally more than Hanley's. He's been ok lately though.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jun 27, 2015 9:27:32 GMT -5
Hanley is going to be one of the top ten hitters in baseball as a DH, so we'll see if the tone changes then. Sandoval truly has been terrible throwing the ball, and his defense has hurt this team situationally more than Hanley's. He's been ok lately though. But, you have to pay him 44 million to butcher LF for two years. Not great resource allocation by BC.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 27, 2015 11:38:53 GMT -5
Is there any reason whatsoever Breslow is still on this team? Probably just to soak up innings. We already paid for him. So thats all I got...
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Post by Guidas on Jun 27, 2015 12:21:57 GMT -5
Barnes up. Corresponding move as of yet unknown.
ADDED: Travis Shaw back to the minors.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 27, 2015 12:50:38 GMT -5
Rubby De La Rosa with 3.34 xFIP/.290 BABIP.
Miley 4.46/.300 and about $18 million dollars more. But you keep GMing Ben Cherrington.
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Post by soxcentral on Jun 27, 2015 12:57:47 GMT -5
Rubby De La Rosa with 3.34 xFIP/.290 BABIP. Miley 4.46/.300 and about $18 million dollars more. But you keep GMing Ben Cherrington. I'm with you, and Miley to me is an OK pitcher but losing De La Rosa as a cheap young power arm still bothers me.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 27, 2015 13:24:31 GMT -5
Rubby De La Rosa with 3.34 xFIP/.290 BABIP. Miley 4.46/.300 and about $18 million dollars more. But you keep GMing Ben Cherrington. I'm with you, and Miley to me is an OK pitcher but losing De La Rosa as a cheap young power arm still bothers me. Yeah, I thought and continue to think Miley = a #5 starter at best. Thought De La Rosa was that or a perhaps little better. So those two were essentially identical assets and RDLR had more on the FB. Then they extended Miley, which to me made it much worse in when you had the same asset, RDLR, sitting there for less. Never understood this deal.
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Post by cdj on Jun 27, 2015 13:25:42 GMT -5
Rubby De La Rosa with 3.34 xFIP/.290 BABIP. Miley 4.46/.300 and about $18 million dollars more. But you keep GMing Ben Cherrington. Seems like you're cherry picking stats a little too hard. Miley has a better ERA/FIP/ERA+ all while pitching in the American League. Stat cherry picking can work both ways. Rubby has not been all that impressive/different than anything we've seen before. He's got good stuff and gives up a ton of jacks. I don't think it is anything to be distraught over.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 27, 2015 13:49:40 GMT -5
Rubby De La Rosa with 3.34 xFIP/.290 BABIP. Miley 4.46/.300 and about $18 million dollars more. But you keep GMing Ben Cherrington. Seems like you're cherry picking stats a little too hard. Miley has a better ERA/FIP/ERA+ all while pitching in the American League. Stat cherry picking can work both ways. Rubby has not been all that impressive/different than anything we've seen before. He's got good stuff and gives up a ton of jacks. I don't think it is anything to be distraught over. I wouldn't say I'm distraught, it just felt like a meh deal all along (The Bailey deal, Lowrie deal, Lackey, Lester - yes, I was, and remain, distraught). And I didn't type the full stat lines but looked at them both. I agree with the AL/NL differential, however. To me it was swapping like assets with one guy having a bit more potential. That, and I didn't get the quick trigger on extension.
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Post by jmei on Jun 27, 2015 14:16:22 GMT -5
That, and I didn't get the quick trigger on extension. The extension ($6m next year, $8.75m the year after, $12m option for 2018 ($0.5m buyout)) is still absolutely worth it. Miley is unlikely to ever be bad enough such that he would have been a non-tender candidate, which means that the worst case scenario is that it's an overpay of a couple million for his next two arb years. If he's the league-average starter that he projects to be, that $12m option for 2018 is going to be a bargain.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 27, 2015 14:44:01 GMT -5
Anecdotal only, and I've probably just picked the wrong games to watch (against the Dodgers and Giants) but De La Rosa's gotten killed with the long ball. When he's good he's very good. But the big limitation is that he still only has 2 1/2 pitches. If the change fails, he's exposed really fast as he sometimes has movement on the fastball, and sometimes doesn't. When he doesn't, prepare for out-going, because they're going to fly. Consistency, pitch-to-pitch, is still a spotty thing. He's not a finished product at this point.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 27, 2015 15:19:38 GMT -5
Yuck, it's these fugly uniforms again.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 27, 2015 15:24:25 GMT -5
Yuck, it's these fugly uniforms again. Man... I loved those things.. Especially compared to the ugly blue ones they wore in the 60's.. Miley looks almost exactly like Reggie Cleveland BTW.. Except for being LH, rather than RH like Reggie was.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 27, 2015 15:35:48 GMT -5
Yuck, it's these fugly uniforms again. Man... I loved those things.. Especially compared to the ugly blue ones they wore in the 60's.. Miley looks almost exactly like Reggie Cleveland BTW.. Except for being LH, rather than RH like Reggie was. I've been trying to figure out who Miley reminded me of. Thank you. Reggie had him beat in belly size though.
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Post by atzar on Jun 27, 2015 15:49:13 GMT -5
Enjoying the double plays.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 27, 2015 15:57:12 GMT -5
Really professional piece of hitting from Bogaerts. He smoked out what was coming and just lashed it out to right.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 27, 2015 16:49:06 GMT -5
Until this offense gets both Ramirez and pedroia back? It's going to be pitiful to watch.
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