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Post by Guidas on Jul 31, 2015 19:17:16 GMT -5
Is Cherington more to blame for not giving away De Aza, or is Farrell more to blame for continuing to play him? Yes.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 31, 2015 19:17:36 GMT -5
JBJ - 3 games, 3 lefty starters.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 31, 2015 19:20:14 GMT -5
To my very untrained eye Swihart looks like a pretty mediocre pitch framer, do the numbers back those observations?
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 31, 2015 19:26:52 GMT -5
I haven't really watched so far. Is ERod still tipping his pitches? Not yet he isn't. He is struggling throwing strikes, high and outside... Last change he threw no nod at all...
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 31, 2015 19:29:07 GMT -5
Cherington should have given away De Aza, he also should make it abundantly clear to Farrell that if De Aza is on the team, he should be strictly a bench player. Farrell should not be stupid enough to start him anyways. Frustrating on both accounts.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 31, 2015 19:33:19 GMT -5
Cherington should have given away De Aza, he also should make it abundantly clear to Farrell that if De Aza is on the team, he should be strictly a bench player. Farrell should not be stupid enough to start him anyways. Frustrating on both accounts. Thing I think might be in play is De Aza might be playing for a spot on the team next year... we still don't know the intentions after they DFA'ed Nava what Ben is thinking.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 31, 2015 19:35:08 GMT -5
I haven't really watched so far. Is ERod still tipping his pitches? Not yet he isn't. He is struggling throwing strikes, high and outside... Last change he threw no nod at all... I noticed. Well that's good, though they should just take him out now after 92 pitches through 4.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 31, 2015 19:48:20 GMT -5
E-Rod's just now warming up — run him back out there for another couple of innings. Let's see what he's made of.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 31, 2015 19:52:55 GMT -5
E-Rod's just now warming up — run him back out there for another couple of innings. Let's see what he's made of. He is probably done now. But he looked great with all those off speed pitches mixed in to the last two batters he faced.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 31, 2015 20:52:45 GMT -5
That home run from Napoli, a lot of the credit goes to Ortiz. He wore McGee down with that 10+ pitch at bat. Nice to see the big guys deliver.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 31, 2015 20:53:41 GMT -5
Hey, Contenders — come and get him! Hurry, before he gets so hot you can't afford him.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 31, 2015 20:54:08 GMT -5
I may be wrong, but I think Napoli's homer hit off the top of the wall. haha
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Post by atzar on Jul 31, 2015 21:10:18 GMT -5
I do like having a catcher who can run when he needs to.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 31, 2015 21:14:06 GMT -5
New guy Rutledge has the clutch gene?
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jul 31, 2015 21:14:52 GMT -5
If he proves to be scrappy too we'll have a keeper.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 31, 2015 21:43:56 GMT -5
I want to point out - De Aza is actually a very solid player, I think he could be starting caliber on a contender, but the way the team is constructed there is no place for him to start in this outfield next season, and so he should not be starting now. If they don't play Jackie he is going to lose all trade value, and they will never know what they have in him - same with Rusney. Perhaps De Aza could fit in left next year, but they'd have to start transitioning Hanley to first now, which they seem adverse to doing (perhaps rightfully if he is improving out there), and even if they did that he'd still be the fourth priority for outfield playing time. I wouldn't mind playing him somewhat down the stretch just to resign him as the fourth outfielder for next year, because I think he's a very good one (and certainly it's more ideal to have him in that role than starting anyways).
Napoli, at this point, is starting to look pretty good at the plate. It happened earlier in the year and faded away, but if he can keep it up the rest of the way he wouldn't be a bad choice for a qualifying offer, if he takes it it wouldn't be terrible having him back at first for one more year (assuming he plays well enough down the stretch to warrant a QO), if he declines it that's good for the Sox too, either they'll get a draft pick or get him back at a discount. This of course also assumes Hanley proves enough in left that they don't have to try him at first (or that Hanley gets traded). Pablo should be back at third at least for one more season. There really isn't a more promising first baseman on the team or in AAA currently, so why not let Napoli try to play it out. Travis could be ready at some point next year but it won't be opening day.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 31, 2015 22:05:36 GMT -5
Props to Rodriguez tonight. He was struggling to throw strikes early in the game, then then find a way to overcome. The numbers are not great, but he toughed out a potentially ugly start.
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Post by bookiemetts on Jul 31, 2015 22:09:05 GMT -5
Props to Rodriguez tonight. He was struggling to throw strikes early in the game, then then find a way to overcome. The numbers are not great, but he toughed out a potentially ugly start. I agree. If your "bad night" (when not tipping pitches) is 5 IP and 3ER, that's not that bad.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 31, 2015 22:10:06 GMT -5
Props to Rodriguez tonight. He was struggling to throw strikes early in the game, then then find a way to overcome. The numbers are not great, but he toughed out a potentially ugly start. I thought he did really good overcoming too. What impressed me was I saw him dip his head (tipping pitches) only four times tonight. Of the 4 two were on fastballs with men on. albeit he through to the inside and off the plate on both of them... but it showed he was using his head trying to get outs... Looks like he is growing up pretty fast to me.
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Post by nomar on Jul 31, 2015 22:34:17 GMT -5
Napoli is leading the playoff push
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 31, 2015 22:39:48 GMT -5
Napoli is leading the playoff push White Sox and Padres say "Ya gotta believe ..."
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Post by Guidas on Jul 31, 2015 22:54:36 GMT -5
No give up on Papi. Some guys would be mailing it in at this point, esp vs. a lefty.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 31, 2015 23:40:34 GMT -5
Props to Rodriguez tonight. He was struggling to throw strikes early in the game, then then find a way to overcome. The numbers are not great, but he toughed out a potentially ugly start. I thought he did really good overcoming too. What impressed me was I saw him dip his head (tipping pitches) only four times tonight. Of the 4 two were on fastballs with men on. albeit he through to the inside and off the plate on both of them... but it showed he was using his head trying to get outs... Looks like he is growing up pretty fast to me. I think Johnson and Owens could be up and in the rotation and also growing up pretty fast, but instead we have the agony of watching kelly and porcello pitch! I think I would rather watch paint dry than those two pitch!
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Aug 1, 2015 8:44:07 GMT -5
Hey -- do not damn watching paint dry with faint praise. I was doing that (watching paint dry) just yesterday while I was replacing some deteriorated boards on one of our bay windows.
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 1, 2015 8:57:17 GMT -5
That home run from Napoli, a lot of the credit goes to Ortiz. He wore McGee down with that 10+ pitch at bat. Nice to see the big guys deliver. Got to give credit to Napoli too. That pitch was at 97 and high in the zone. Napoli leveled his swing path a bit there and did not swing underneath it like he so often does.
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