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Post by hammerhead on Dec 26, 2012 7:34:59 GMT -5
I'm glad that somebody who is completely delusional is speaking for the entire forum, it makes the board so much more festive.
The Sox are so obviously a better team with Napoli in the fold. Why else would they want to sign him to a 3year deal worth 39million? Maybe it's because he is so good looking they figure it will pack Fenway with Pink hats?
Napoli was in demand and the sox pounced on him early, all this injury talk is hindsight. It's leverage.
Perhaps the Sox would be better off with DWL MVP Mauro Gomez, but they wanted Napoli around so that Gomez has time for his MVP world tour?
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Post by steveofbradenton on Dec 26, 2012 8:11:31 GMT -5
We ARE better..........period with Mike Napoli in the middle of the line-up than without.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 26, 2012 8:21:58 GMT -5
Until we know Napoli's health status I don't see how anybody can really judge.
If we want to guess like we're all doing, I would say that he's probably fine, but the Sox are taking precautions the way they did with Drew and Bay, so if Napoli if more or less Napoli, then he should help the Sox.
You know with Napoli, you'll get a middling to low batting average supported by walks to give you a good OBP and he'll supplement that with a strong slugging average.
Don't know if there's a big enough sample size to judge how good or bad he'd be at 1b defensively. I'm not expecting Keith Hernandez in his prime. If he's adequate and he can be his usual offensive self, then he'll be an asset.
It's not like they have a better option elsewhere. Their best hope is that Travis Shaw is ready by 2014 or 2015.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 26, 2012 8:33:48 GMT -5
The majority of people (but the minority of posters here) feel this way about Napoli. Classic. Even if this were true, it's also a well-established fact that the majority of people don't know what the @*%#$ they're talking about.
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Post by iakovos11 on Dec 26, 2012 10:20:18 GMT -5
The majority of people (but the minority of posters here) feel this way about Napoli. Classic. Even if this were true, it's also a well-established fact that the majority of people don't know what the @*%#$ they're talking about. Well said.
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Post by raftsox on Dec 26, 2012 10:47:44 GMT -5
You know with Napoli, you'll get a middling to low batting average supported by walks to give you a good OBP and he'll supplement that with a strong slugging average. I agree that Napoli will (usually) give us a not-so-stellar BA, but we Sox fans have been spoiled for the last several years, too. His BA really isn't bad, it's just a lot wors than we're used to. I don't know how to insert a simple graph here, but I made one up (yay for me). Napoli tends to hover just around the AL 1B average while Boston has been significantly above it since 2008.
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Post by remember04 on Dec 26, 2012 11:22:55 GMT -5
I don't know how to insert a simple graph here upload it to an image host and use image tags [ img] [ /img] with the actual url of the image in between without the spaces
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 27, 2012 1:36:10 GMT -5
If the Red Sox sign LaRoche instead and lose the 2nd round pick I'll throw-up.
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 27, 2012 2:15:45 GMT -5
If the Red Sox sign LaRoche instead and lose the 2nd round pick I'll throw-up. you realize that that was NOT NOT NOT their plan to begin with. Its not the sox fault they went after their guy and the guy was more injured then they thought, which forced them to go to Plan B (if that happens)
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Post by rasimon on Dec 27, 2012 2:59:44 GMT -5
if you were willing to lose the 2nd round pick you might as well have signed Swisher
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 27, 2012 9:30:22 GMT -5
According to Jen Royle (twitter) of SB Nation, two sources indicate that the Sox are talking to Adam LaRoche. Pressure to get Napoli to agree to revised terms?
LaRoche has a standing two year offer to return to the Nats, but is holding out for a three year agreement.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 27, 2012 10:37:35 GMT -5
Negotiating leverage/checking in with the safety blanket in case things go FUBAR, imo.
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Post by mainesox on Dec 27, 2012 12:37:55 GMT -5
if you were willing to lose the 2nd round pick you might as well have signed Swisher This. If the Red Sox were serious about moving on from Napoli they would have done it before all of the legitimate 1B options were off the market (LaRoche is not a legitimate 1B option, especially at three years and the loss of a draft pick).
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Post by sarasoxer on Dec 27, 2012 14:01:06 GMT -5
Sox clearly prefer(ed) Napoli. Someone will blink shortly & I doubt it is the Sox. I think we are at the end- game.
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Post by lancect on Dec 27, 2012 17:31:44 GMT -5
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 27, 2012 17:34:15 GMT -5
Most likely spin from his camp
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Post by buffs4444 on Dec 27, 2012 17:36:11 GMT -5
From WEEI:
Napoli not going quietly into that good night, says "I'll see your 'negotiating with Laroche' report and raise you a 'mystery third team' report". This back-and-forth all seems to distract from the larger issue that this team needs a longer term solution at first and needs to get this squared away soon to focus on acquiring someone who could potentially be that type, like a Logan Morrison. Really like the idea of taking a Napoli/LoMo combination to ST and seeing what happens.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 27, 2012 18:31:05 GMT -5
If the Red Sox sign LaRoche instead and lose the 2nd round pick I'll throw-up. you realize that that was NOT NOT NOT their plan to begin with. Its not the sox fault they went after their guy and the guy was more injured then they thought, which forced them to go to Plan B (if that happens) We all realize that. That doesn't mean the Sox should sell out their original plan and do something foolish. You almost sound like a defense lawyer for the Sox bothered by anybody who would give the Sox constructive criticism. I'm sure the Sox management second-guesses themselves from time to time. It's a healthy process. The Sox need to come up with a creative solution at 1b if Napoli falls thru. These guys are paid the big bucks to find alternatives we wouldn't think of. They could always try out Berkman for a year, see what the Cards would want to Adams, look at dealing for Morneau, check out guys stuck on the bench or in AAA that deserve a real shot. There are ways they can go except the most obvious route. The Sox have made it clear what their end-game goals are this year. There hasn't been much creativity and they haven't added anybody who can impact this franchise positively for the long-term.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 29, 2012 12:43:57 GMT -5
If the Red Sox sign LaRoche instead and lose the 2nd round pick I'll throw-up. Hellooooo Casey Kotchman.
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 10, 2013 17:19:59 GMT -5
RT @sportstalkmatt: . @jen_Royle just said that she heard RedSox and Mike Napoli are not speaking and the Sox are going in another direction
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 10, 2013 19:15:42 GMT -5
@jen_Royle Source on Napoli: "Sides are quiet." Another source: "They're not talking." Another source: "They're working on it." Ben: "We're hopeful."
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Post by GyIantosca on Jan 10, 2013 21:55:48 GMT -5
Not for nothing but that hip must be a mess. They should of played games with Victorino. At least Napoli has a good swing for Fenway.
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jan 11, 2013 8:48:14 GMT -5
Not for nothing but that hip must be a mess. They should of played games with Victorino. At least Napoli has a good swing for Fenway. Yes but there is no point in signing Napoli if he is not healthy. Committing that type of money for a potentially injured player would be a foolish waste of resources.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 11, 2013 9:40:27 GMT -5
I suspect that Napoli's offensive slide in 2012 must have been in part due to injury or physical decline...or at least the Sox may think so based on its medical investigation. It is somewhat amazing that the information vault has been so securely sealed.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jan 11, 2013 11:05:03 GMT -5
I suspect that Napoli's offensive slide in 2012 must have been in part due to injury or physical decline...or at least the Sox may think so based on its medical investigation. It is somewhat amazing that the information vault has been so securely sealed. Really!! Hard to believe that no one in either camp is leaking information. Love to hear what the Sox are looking for and what Napoli is upset about. Sort of miss the old days when someone ALWAYS leaked info from Fenway.
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