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Post by jimed14 on Jan 29, 2016 7:51:32 GMT -5
I like him more than Meadows undoubtedly.
I had precisely the same flashback when in the midst of an otherwise great video clip on Benintendi (MLB attribution) we are made to understand that Benintendi was ranked second on Sox draft board behind only Dansby Swanson.....having said that, Benintendi clearly has had a fantastic start post-draft, seemingly much better than that other left handed batting/throwing outfielder we picked last year......
Nice video though....hope we nailed it with this draftpick.....
m.mlb.com/video/v539915383/top-prospects-andrew-benintendi-of-red-sox
I knew that was coming eventually, but thank you for not mentioning names.
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Post by proudtoserve on Jan 29, 2016 8:15:04 GMT -5
I had precisely the same flashback when in the midst of an otherwise great video clip on Benintendi (MLB attribution) we are made to understand that Benintendi was ranked second on Sox draft board behind only Dansby Swanson.....having said that, Benintendi clearly has had a fantastic start post-draft, seemingly much better than that other left handed batting/throwing outfielder we picked last year......
Nice video though....hope we nailed it with this draftpick.....
m.mlb.com/video/v539915383/top-prospects-andrew-benintendi-of-red-sox
I knew that was coming eventually, but thank you for not mentioning names. Thanks boss....
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Post by gerry on Jan 29, 2016 13:24:55 GMT -5
Beni completes the picture That means that in the last few years the Sox have top ten prospects at C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, SP. Adding Beni, Moncada, Devers, Travis, Espinoza to Betts, Bogaerts, Bradley, ERod, Shaw, Swihart, Vasquez is homegrown awesomeness. Did I miss anyone? Who might make next year's list? Several young pitchers seem poised to break out.
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Post by telson13 on Jan 29, 2016 14:57:53 GMT -5
Beni completes the picture That means that in the last few years the Sox have top ten prospects at C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, SP. Adding Beni, Moncada, Devers, Travis, Espinoza to Betts, Bogaerts, Bradley, ERod, Shaw, Swihart, Vasquez is homegrown awesomeness. Did I miss anyone? Who might make next year's list? Several young pitchers seem poised to break out. I still like Kopech a lot. Oxilofrine is about as benign as it gets in terms of amphetamine stimulants. It's OTC-legal and mostly has limited metabolic effects related to increased fat mobilization. It's in lots of supplements and sometimes not listed. I'm pretty confident that Kopech will continue to build on last year. Sam Travis may force his way into that group if he adds a little more power to his game and keeps hitting as he has. And I think you're selling Owens and Johnson short...both have value as probable mid-rotation guys. When pitchers of that caliber are getting $10-$15M a year, that's a lot of savings. Honestly, though, I'm very excited about Benintendi. Of all of the players still in the minors, he's the one guy I can let myself imagine as a future multiple batting champion. He and Betts are going to have a few epic down-to-the-wire races, I hope.
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Post by ethanbein on Jan 29, 2016 20:22:04 GMT -5
From a Keith Law chat a couple weeks ago:
Roddy: What is the most optimistic callup time for Benintendi? Klaw: Schwarber and Conforto reached the majors about a year after signing. I don’t see why Benintendi couldn’t do the same.
FWIW, I agree
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Post by proudtoserve on Jan 31, 2016 10:44:34 GMT -5
Not to be lost in there is Basabe's excellent season, including some pretty solid HR/SLG numbers for an 18-y/o. I'm very excited to see how he handles low-A next year. If I recall correctly, at one point he had 6HR, more than all of the other 18 y/o hitters combined
This.......
Gerry, to add to your list of names which might be a 2016 names which telson sent a few days ago, there is one which he mentioned earlier, and on reflection, me too, totally excited about the younger Basabe....
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Post by sibbysisti on Feb 1, 2016 11:37:19 GMT -5
From a Keith Law chat a couple weeks ago: Roddy: What is the most optimistic callup time for Benintendi? Klaw: Schwarber and Conforto reached the majors about a year after signing. I don’t see why Benintendi couldn’t do the same. FWIW, I agree But, where would we play him? ?
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 1, 2016 11:45:59 GMT -5
What would we do with Willie McGee?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 1, 2016 12:10:23 GMT -5
From a Keith Law chat a couple weeks ago: Roddy: What is the most optimistic callup time for Benintendi? Klaw: Schwarber and Conforto reached the majors about a year after signing. I don’t see why Benintendi couldn’t do the same. FWIW, I agree But, where would we play him? ? If there's no need, then he doesn't come up. If there is a need, then it's because someone's either hurt or not performing.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 1, 2016 12:39:01 GMT -5
But, where would we play him? ? If there's no need, then he doesn't come up. If there is a need, then it's because someone's either hurt or not performing. I'd be very surprised if he debuted this year. I think they'd be more likely to trade for someone if there were a need. If he did play this year, it would be because they couldn't keep him out of the major league lineup anymore, like with Mookie in 2014. But then again, they weren't in the playoff race then.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 1, 2016 13:23:54 GMT -5
What would we do with Willie McGee? Obtain him five years later and platoon him with Troy O'Leary.
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Post by ramireja on Feb 1, 2016 13:41:03 GMT -5
FWIW, guys like Conforto and Schwarber played 3 years in college compared to Benintendi's 2 years. Not saying it makes all the difference in the world, but something that is easily overlooked when I keep seeing these comparisons.
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Post by ryantoworkman on Feb 1, 2016 13:50:24 GMT -5
But, where would we play him? ? If there's no need, then he doesn't come up. If there is a need, then it's because someone's either hurt or not performing. Exactly! The best case scenario is AB stays in the minors through the end of 2016, then competes for a 2017 job. If this is the end result, it would mean that both Bradley, and Castillo proved themselves worthy MLers, and one, or Young, becomes a trading chip next offseason. Getting AB another 150 to 200 ml at bats can't hurt his development either.
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Post by telson13 on Feb 1, 2016 15:10:07 GMT -5
But, where would we play him? ? If there's no need, then he doesn't come up. If there is a need, then it's because someone's either hurt or not performing. Agreed, except in the unlikely event that he puts up video-game numbers like Soler's half-season before he got called up...and the Sox find a suitor for a revived Castillo at the deadline. But yeah, even if Benintendi does a Mookie '14 impression with power, I don't see them bringing him up unless 1) there's a need, or 2) there's a highly advantageous trade. If they think he can do a Seager/Schwarber impression, they'll find a way, but I'm sure they don't want his service time clock starting anytime soon.
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Post by ramireja on Feb 1, 2016 15:12:13 GMT -5
If there's no need, then he doesn't come up. If there is a need, then it's because someone's either hurt or not performing. Agreed, except in the unlikely event that he puts up video-game numbers like Soler's half-season before he got called up...and the Sox find a suitor for a revived Castillo at the deadline. But yeah, even if Benintendi does a Mookie '14 impression with power, I don't see them bringing him up unless 1) there's a need, or 2) there's a highly advantageous trade. If they think he can do a Seager/Schwarber impression, they'll find a way, but I'm sure they don't want his service time clock starting anytime soon.I mean maybe, but I don't think DD has ever been one to worry about service time.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Feb 2, 2016 12:59:19 GMT -5
An interesting scenario is if the sox need him to be a 4th OF. That would mean if one of our top 4 ML OF goes down with season ending injury or has VERY poor numbers. Would he leapfrog to a starting spot? One scenario is if Castillo blows a knee at the AS break, does AB start over Young? If Young has a problem, does AB become our 4th? Platoon? I would hate for him not to get regular at bats for his development.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 2, 2016 13:05:44 GMT -5
An interesting scenario is if the sox need him to be a 4th OF. That would mean if one of our top 4 ML OF goes down with season ending injury or has VERY poor numbers. Would he leapfrog to a starting spot? One scenario is if Castillo blows a knee at the AS break, does AB start over Young? If Young has a problem, does AB become our 4th? Platoon? I would hate for him not to get regular at bats for his development. That has a zero point zero chance of happening.
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Post by proudtoserve on Feb 2, 2016 15:51:46 GMT -5
What would we do with Willie McGee? I rest my case....
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Post by threeifbaerga on Feb 3, 2016 15:46:08 GMT -5
Agreed, except in the unlikely event that he puts up video-game numbers like Soler's half-season before he got called up... Not that it's related to the bulk of your post but why did Theo push Soler so aggressively? He played 12 professional games in Cuba, takes two years to emigrate, then gets a grand total of 557 minor league at bats?
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Post by telson13 on Feb 3, 2016 19:10:39 GMT -5
Agreed, except in the unlikely event that he puts up video-game numbers like Soler's half-season before he got called up... Not that it's related to the bulk of your post but why did Theo push Soler so aggressively? He played 12 professional games in Cuba, takes two years to emigrate, then gets a grand total of 557 minor league at bats? I'm guessing they thought he was sufficiently seasoned playing in Cuba. It's a fair question...one could argue that JBJ got similar treatment. Epstein has been pretty aggressive...remember Hansen? Lester, Buchholz, even Hanley. There's a school of thought that great players will rise to the occasion and the pretenders are revealed. Obviously, the opposite school of thought is the idea that early promotion ruins players. I think it's more complicated than that. On an unrelated note, I'm really hoping Delvin Perez has a good spring and is available when the Sox pick at 12. He's very young for this draft, and I like his projectability. Plus, he'd provide a replacement (if he follows a normal development path) for Bogaerts right around the time Bogey either is looking towards FA or is under contract but maybe is losing a step in the field.
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Post by telson13 on Feb 3, 2016 20:12:24 GMT -5
Oops, I should explain that better: I think they (Cubs) had high expectations of Soler based on scouting and his amateur career. They were pretty aggressive in bumping him up to low A as soon as he proved capable of playing Rookie ball (his performance there "looks" pedestrian, but I'm guessing they saw what they thought they'd see when they signed him). He hit very well after the promotion, and had a pretty good (if injury-marred) showing in high A, in a pitcher's league. They then tested him again by sending him to the AFL (AA equivalent) and he well enough for them to send him to AA the next season, where he put up absolutely absurd numbers, and they (maybe prematurely) promoted him to AAA, where he was nearly as good, earning him another promotion.
So, yeah, I agree that it was probably overly aggressive that last season, because I think they moved him quickly (but not overly so) before that, despite injuries, based on what they **thought** he was from his days in Cuba. Kind of wishful projection based on eyeball scouting and small statistical samples? FWIW, I'm not sure that it was unreasonable, as he's provided some MLB value and has gotten MLB experience without necessarily impeding his development. Definitely very aggressive, though.
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 7, 2016 13:50:18 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Apr 7, 2016 14:26:18 GMT -5
If he ever has an 0-8 streak against Kluber and Carrasco though, he's dead to me.
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Post by dnfl333 on Apr 7, 2016 19:49:47 GMT -5
Somewhere Cherington has a grin on his face
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Apr 12, 2016 16:02:36 GMT -5
Somewhere Cherington has a grin on his face "My department drafted a great guy in Benintendi, and I can proudly say, that he will help them when they need to trade him to acquire a starting pitcher to undo the cluster I left"
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