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Post by amfox1 on Aug 31, 2015 23:14:37 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago Sources: #SFGiants get De Aza from #RedSox.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 31, 2015 23:17:52 GMT -5
Henry Schulman @hankschulman 14s15 seconds ago Should be Luis YSLA for De Aza. #sfgiants.
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Post by vinscully on Aug 31, 2015 23:23:10 GMT -5
Heyman reportings minor league pitcher(s) Jon Heyman @jonheymancbs 5m5 minutes ago Miami, FL red sox get minor-league pitchers for de aza
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 31, 2015 23:23:15 GMT -5
Ysla was SF's #10 prospect via MLB Pipeline but is currently #27.
23YO in high-A ball.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 31, 2015 23:23:27 GMT -5
Starting to clear things out... He performed for the Sox but at this point he was excess baggage. Time to inform myself on Ysla.
Add: The kind of arm that Dombrowski seems to favor.
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Aug 31, 2015 23:26:04 GMT -5
Huh seemed to do well in the South Atlantic League last year but got blown up this year, I know the California League is hitter friendly but what do you think went wrong?
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 31, 2015 23:27:39 GMT -5
Essentially, the Red Sox traded 23YO RHP Joe Gunkel for 1.4 WAR and 23YO LHP Luis Ysla. Ysla is a lotto ticket with a big arm and not a lot of control over it.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 31, 2015 23:34:06 GMT -5
Well, it is a step up. The home park's not bad - San Jose isn't a big offensive environment, But some of the other parks, places like Lancaster, High Desert, and Bakersfield, are killers, extreme environments and huge numbers of home runs flying out. Really distorts the evaluation of players. He's probably worth the lottery ticket.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Aug 31, 2015 23:34:47 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 31, 2015 23:36:21 GMT -5
Sean McAdam @sean_McAdam 45s45 seconds ago Confirmed: Red Sox send OF Alejandro de Aza to SF Giants for 23-year-old LHP Luis Ysla. @ken_Rosenthal first to report De Aza.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 31, 2015 23:38:09 GMT -5
Wanted to reach through my screen and punchout the voice.
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Post by GyIantosca on Aug 31, 2015 23:47:37 GMT -5
I wonder who the Sox wanted from the Dodgers to make the trade fall thru before this one was made.
At least they recouped a relief arm back.
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Post by rangoon82 on Aug 31, 2015 23:54:12 GMT -5
Yikes opponents are hitting .330 against Ysla this year
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 1, 2015 0:29:47 GMT -5
Yikes opponents are hitting .330 against Ysla this year Believe me when I say that you can knock 20% of the hits off of his total. You need to have a feel for how grossly exaggerated the offensive environments are in both the Pacific Coast League and the California League.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 0:43:16 GMT -5
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Post by mredsox89 on Sept 1, 2015 0:50:50 GMT -5
Ysla 2015
9 GS: 8.81 ERA, .388 OBA, 2.5:1 K:BB 24 RP: 4.50 ERA, .286 OBA, 2:1 K:BB
2nd half: 4.67 ERA, 3.75:1 K:BB
I'll be interested to see if they go with him as a starter or reliever. His numbers were very good as a starter in A-ball. Strikeout per inning, 2.5:1 k/bb ratio
His FIP (which I'd take very lightly at the lower levels given official scoring) is only half a run worse this year than last year, despite an ERA nearly 4 runs higher.
I like it as a lottery ticket
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 1, 2015 2:10:05 GMT -5
Ysla 2015 9 GS: 8.81 ERA, .388 OBA, 2.5:1 K:BB 24 RP: 4.50 ERA, .286 OBA, 2:1 K:BB 2nd half: 4.67 ERA, 3.75:1 K:BB I'll be interested to see if they go with him as a starter or reliever. His numbers were very good as a starter in A-ball. Strikeout per inning, 2.5:1 k/bb ratio His FIP (which I'd take very lightly at the lower levels given official scoring) is only half a run worse this year than last year, despite an ERA nearly 4 runs higher. I like it as a lottery ticket ? FIP is based on IP, SO, BB, IBB, HBP, and HR. Those are all pretty easy to score.
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Post by nomar on Sept 1, 2015 5:59:09 GMT -5
I like this. I bet we convert him fully to relief.
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Post by jimoh on Sept 1, 2015 6:07:46 GMT -5
SP 14 vid, 1:10
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Post by artfuldodger on Sept 1, 2015 6:10:27 GMT -5
To understand what this suggests for the future, I wonder how this trade as finalized compares to what Cherington was seeking. Seems to be a solid return but not an overpay that would force the trade to wait until deadline.
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Post by jimoh on Sept 1, 2015 6:10:45 GMT -5
Sickels pre-15 www.minorleagueball.com/2014/11/25/7277203/san-francisco-giants-top-20-prospects-for-201514) Luis Ysla, LHP, Grade C+: Age 22, posted 2.45 ERA with 115/45 K/BB in 121 innings in Low-A, 104 hits. Fine statistics, in-person reports aren’t quite as optimistic and make him sound like a future reliever, perhaps something like the now-traded Edwin Escobar. Could plausibly rank as high as 10th. Sickels reviewing his top prospects recently www.minorleagueball.com/2015/8/19/9167533/san-francisco-giants-top-20-2015-pre-season-prospects-in-review14) Luis Ysla, LHP, Grade C+: Ugly 6.46 ERA in High-A, 83/38 K/BB in 71 innings, 102 hits. Still has a good strikeout rate but hard to spin this as anything but a grave disappointment.
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Post by geostorm on Sept 1, 2015 6:34:16 GMT -5
www.fangraphs.com/blogs/prospect-watch-may-flames/ (from May 2014 - 3 videos accessible via link) Luis Ysla, LHP, San Francisco Giants (Profile) Level: Low-A Age: 22 Top-15: N/A Top-100: N/A Line: 47 IP, 38 H, 17 R, 37/19 K/BB, 2.49 ERA, 3.75 FIP Summary Everyone loves a power lefty, right? Notes I was at Luis Ysla‘s start against Hickory on May 13. A lot of things about that start were memorable. He threw eight innings and allowed just two hits, one run, and no walks while striking out seven. He took a no-hitter into the sixth inning, hit 96 mph in the seventh inning, and showed an intriguing slider. All of those facts are indeed quite impressive, but the one I simply can’t shake from my head is this: Luis Ysla was signed for $7,500. That’s $7,500 well spent, because Ysla has easily the best fastball I’ve ever seen from a lefthanded starter. He worked anywhere from 90-96 mph in my viewing, but could reach back for 94-96 whenever he wanted–as mentioned, he hit 96 in the seventh inning and 95 in the eighth. The pitch comes in with late sink and run from his slingshot delivery and is absolutely too much for Low-A batters: You can see there that Ysla tends to dramatically vary the effort in his delivery. When he’s low effort, he’s still in the low 90s, but it’s when he ramps it up that the ball climbs into the mid 90s. Regardless of this quirk, it’s still a fastball that averages 93 mph with plus life, an extremely rare beast for a southpaw starter. As you might expect, Ysla tends to rely heavily on the fastball–I’d estimate he threw it 75% of the time or so in my viewing. He does, however, have a very interesting second pitch that he’ll turn to for strikeouts at times: The slider comes in at 78-83 mph with big, sweeping bite. It’s not particularly consistent at this stage, but it plays up because he uses it judiciously and because hitters have to worry so much about the fastball. It’s at least an average pitch already even without that and has the chance to be a 6 pitch in the future with additional tightening. Ysla threw exactly three changeups in my viewing: the pitch is 85-87 mph with some sink and a touch of run, and frankly, he could have used it more without embarrassing himself. It’s a playable offering that could get into the average range with consistent reps. Ysla is 22 years old already–he signed at age 20, which is a big part of why a southpaw this talented was signed so cheaply. But his dominant May–batters hit .189/.235/.253 off him and he put up a 1.29 ERA in 28 innings–backs up his stuff. It’s easy to see him turning into a Sean Doolittle sort of pitcher out of the bullpen, coming in and just throwing a ton of mid-90s heaters, but his offspeed arsenal is promising enough to not discount his chances at starting. Given his age, though, he’ll need a whole lot more reps on the changeup to make a rotation gig his long-term home. Regardless of his eventual role, Ysla should be a valuable big-league arm, one of many intriguing young pitchers the Giants are cultivating.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 1, 2015 6:49:20 GMT -5
Exactly the kind of guy I'd hope they'd get for De Aza. May turn out to be nothing, but solid trade.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 1, 2015 6:54:25 GMT -5
Anyone figure out when he's rule 5 eligible yet?
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Post by amfox1 on Sept 1, 2015 8:06:26 GMT -5
Anyone figure out when he's rule 5 eligible yet? This year, and he's not going to be protected or selected.
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