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Post by Jonathan Singer on Sept 17, 2015 9:41:59 GMT -5
9/18 Red Sox (RHP Rick Porcello 8-12 5.06) @ Blue Jays (RHP Marcus Stroman 1-0 5.40) 7:07 pm ET, NESN/WEEI9/19 Red Sox (LHP Wade Miley 11-10 4.41) @ Blue Jays (RHP R.A. Dickey 10-11 4.08) 4:07 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEI9/20 Red Sox (TBD) @ Blue Jays (LHP Mark Buehrle 14-7 3.66) 1:07 pm ET, NESN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by Smittyw on Sept 17, 2015 9:44:39 GMT -5
So how will the rotation work out now that Kelly is shut down and Eddie and Hank are approaching inning limits? I might have missed it, but is there some reason Escobar doesn't seem to be a consideration?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 17, 2015 9:56:48 GMT -5
So how will the rotation work out now that Kelly is shut down and Eddie and Hank are approaching inning limits? I might have missed it, but is there some reason Escobar doesn't seem to be a consideration? Owens shouldn't be approaching any innings limits. He's at 166 innings after throwing 159 last year. He should only make 2 more starts so he'll get to, what, 180 tops? Rodriguez only pitched 120 last year, so now that he's at 158, it's more of a concern. |
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Post by klostrophobic on Sept 17, 2015 10:55:38 GMT -5
I'd like to see Escobar, bullpen days or bring Wakefield out of retirement.
But really it kind of has to be Escobar; the 40 man is full and there is no one else on the roster unless they take Buchholz off the DL (lol).
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 17, 2015 11:28:28 GMT -5
Wright's concussion must be really, really severe. I haven't read anything about it. What crappy luck.
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Post by mgoetze on Sept 17, 2015 13:17:53 GMT -5
I would assume the reason game 3 is TBD is because they don't yet know whether Wright will be able to go, and that it will be Rich Hill if it's not Wright. But I haven't really been keeping up on news so might be way off base.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 17, 2015 13:36:57 GMT -5
I would assume the reason game 3 is TBD is because they don't yet know whether Wright will be able to go, and that it will be Rich Hill if it's not Wright. But I haven't really been keeping up on news so might be way off base. I doubt Wright could go. They haven't said anything about him in over a month as far as I'm aware of. |
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Post by redsoxrich on Sept 17, 2015 13:37:21 GMT -5
Hill's listed as starter for Sunday per ESPN.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 17, 2015 13:41:40 GMT -5
espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13672638/boston-red-sox-pitcher-joe-kelly-shut-remainder-seasonMy guess is they're just trying to figure out when said bullpen game would come. 17 in a row starting tomorrow. Hill's listed as starter for Sunday per ESPN. That doesn't really mean anything. Pretty sure they just project out the current rotation. That said, probably will be Hill. I'd bet it's something like: Porcello/Miley/Hill/Rodriguez/Owens/Porcello/Bullpen game/Miley/Hill/Owens/Porcello/Rodriguez/Miley/Hill/bullpen game/Porcello/Owens. Limits Rodriguez to two more starts, gives everyone else some breathing room. Even if Wright turns a corner, he's been out for so long (last pitched August 11, believe it or not) that I can't see them ramping him back up to start that quickly. At best he can give you 2 or 3 out of the bullpen at a pop.
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Post by blizzards39 on Sept 17, 2015 13:45:26 GMT -5
My guess is Owens is good to go but only one more start for Erod. Asumming Kelly is done that leaves Miley and Porcello so you can probably pencil in Hill. Maybe Clay gets a 3 Inning start down the stretch. Only other real options would be Escabar or Barnes. It real amazing how fast starting pitching can become depleted. CANT HAVE to much starting pitching. This is amplified with injury prone and younger pitchers.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 17, 2015 14:17:28 GMT -5
Looking forward to seeing how Mookie Betts handles right field. I doubt he will have any problems at all, but it is significant because I think the brass prefers Jackie Bradley Jr in center. Hopefully they will leave Mookie in right for the remainder of the season. It is especially important that he plays right at Fenway over the remaining home games.
I really like what I've seen of Rusney Castillo in left. He has been a weapon at Fenway.
Now he we can just get Bradley back to hitting some to finish the season!
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Post by michael on Sept 17, 2015 14:32:47 GMT -5
Hill's listed as starter for Sunday per ESPN. And we all know how well ESPN researches Boston area material. Always First; Sometimes inaccurate but Never in Doubt. |
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Post by Smittyw on Sept 18, 2015 8:46:16 GMT -5
So how will the rotation work out now that Kelly is shut down and Eddie and Hank are approaching inning limits? I might have missed it, but is there some reason Escobar doesn't seem to be a consideration? Owens shouldn't be approaching any innings limits. He's at 166 innings after throwing 159 last year. He should only make 2 more starts so he'll get to, what, 180 tops? Rodriguez only pitched 120 last year, so now that he's at 158, it's more of a concern. Point taken. There's been various media reporting that the team wants to manage Owens' workload down the stretch, but calling it an innings limit per se might be inaccurate. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 18, 2015 9:04:49 GMT -5
Owens shouldn't be approaching any innings limits. He's at 166 innings after throwing 159 last year. He should only make 2 more starts so he'll get to, what, 180 tops? Rodriguez only pitched 120 last year, so now that he's at 158, it's more of a concern. Point taken. There's been various media reporting that the team wants to manage Owens' workload down the stretch, but calling it an innings limit per se might be inaccurate. Yeah, and it actually looks like it might be 3 starts now, with Kelly going down. The idea is probably more that they'll give him more than 4 days between starts by utilizing bullpen days, as they've said. |
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Post by danr on Sept 18, 2015 11:04:00 GMT -5
Truly bad luck for Johnson having that injury. He could have gotten a good tryout.
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Post by gerry on Sept 18, 2015 11:13:18 GMT -5
Yes, Johnson AND Wright could have gained alot of IP and given Dave a good look. Still hope the will bring up Escobar for the same reason.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Sept 18, 2015 15:02:55 GMT -5
BETTS RF
HOLT 3B
XANDER
ORTIZ
SHAW
CASTILLO
SWIHART
RUTLEDGE 2B
BRADLEY CF
PORCELLO rhp
NO PABLO
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Sept 18, 2015 17:36:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't have minded seeing Marrero in there tonight.
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Post by gerry on Sept 18, 2015 20:24:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't have minded seeing Marrero in there tonight. Dave needs information to formulate the 2016 bench and trades. Rutledge, Marrero, Shaw. Too bad for Brentz. I guess Marco starts in AAA. Marrero will be in the majors next year somewhere with that glove, speed, growing versatility (iB, 2B, 3B, SS) and at least league average bat. With Brockstar an excellent OF, perhaps Holt, Shaw, Marrero, Hanigan would be better than average? |
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Post by jmei on Sept 18, 2015 20:37:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't call Marrero a league-average bat. He hit .256/.316/.344 in AAA this year, and scouts have long questioned whether he'd hit enough to make him even a second-division starter. He seems like a utility-player-type to me (which shouldn't be taken as an insult; those guys are super valuable).
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Post by station13 on Sept 18, 2015 22:00:32 GMT -5
infuriating defense tonight. Two botch double plays by Holt. Then the rest wasn't pretty either.
The Red Sox must lead the league with wild pitches, which lead to 2 more runs.
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Post by nomar on Sept 18, 2015 22:49:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't call Marrero a league-average bat. He hit .256/.316/.344 in AAA this year, and scouts have long questioned whether he'd hit enough to make him even a second-division starter. He seems like a utility-player-type to me (which shouldn't be taken as an insult; those guys are super valuable). I think an average bat is his ceiling. |
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Post by gerry on Sept 19, 2015 1:44:48 GMT -5
Watching the games of Porcello, Rutledge, Holt, Rusney, JBJ, Mookie, Papi, we have to assume it is am anomaly of some kind which won't be repeated across such a brpad spectrum.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Sept 19, 2015 11:49:53 GMT -5
redsox.com now has Rich Hill as the starter for Sunday.
Monday is TBD
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Post by Guidas on Sept 19, 2015 16:36:02 GMT -5
So this staff just doesn't like to pitch with a lead.
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