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Post by amfox1 on Apr 18, 2016 14:46:17 GMT -5
Gunsolus promoted to Salem, Betts to Portland, Witte to Pawtucket. Incoming to Greenville is not yet known.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 18, 2016 16:21:14 GMT -5
Looks like Tate Matheny has been added to the Greenville Drive roster.
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Post by Costigan on Apr 18, 2016 16:43:10 GMT -5
Looks like Tate Matheny has been added to the Greenville Drive roster. Yup, batting 5th in RF.
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Post by theolearyfactor on Apr 20, 2016 19:04:33 GMT -5
Chavis has had a strong showing in his first 10 games in Greenville. At 20 y/o he's still young for low-A. How much longer til he gets the bump up to Salem? .388/.444/.633 I know the "contest" is over, but Chavis is still no less worthy of a promotion.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 20, 2016 19:08:34 GMT -5
Chavis has had a strong showing in his first 10 games in Greenville. At 20 y/o he's still young for low-A. How much longer til he gets the bump up to Salem? .388/.444/.633 I know the "contest" is over, but Chavis is still no less worthy of a promotion. They're not going to limit either his or Devers' playing time by moving him up anytime soon.
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 20, 2016 19:24:16 GMT -5
Nobody is worthy of promotion after 10 games or so, unless they have the track record from previous years and were conservatively placed.
Also, players have stated goals heading into the year and meeting those goals is typically the main reason for a promotion. Those goals aren't often stats, I'll bet.
Unfortunately this thread gives an opportunity for people to mention all these guys that started off well this year and they should be in line for a promotion.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 23, 2016 8:24:05 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on Apr 23, 2016 10:33:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the link Lefty. This simply not true. Every year, they make a visit if not more!
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Post by deepjohn on Apr 23, 2016 12:06:38 GMT -5
Nobody is worthy of promotion after 10 games or so, unless they have the track record from previous years and were conservatively placed. Also, players have stated goals heading into the year and meeting those goals is typically the main reason for a promotion. Those goals aren't often stats, I'll bet. Unfortunately this thread gives an opportunity for people to mention all these guys that started off well this year and they should be in line for a promotion. I think nowadays at least some goals are likely to be statistical and short term. An easy one is extra base hits (doubles and triples), which normalizes around 48 PAs. By this goal Benintendi has a dominant 13 doubles and triples. By comparison, Moncada has 6, Devers 3. Have you thought about moving Benintendi to #1 in your rankings? At least among position players.
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Post by ethanbein on Apr 23, 2016 13:11:29 GMT -5
Nobody is worthy of promotion after 10 games or so, unless they have the track record from previous years and were conservatively placed. Also, players have stated goals heading into the year and meeting those goals is typically the main reason for a promotion. Those goals aren't often stats, I'll bet. Unfortunately this thread gives an opportunity for people to mention all these guys that started off well this year and they should be in line for a promotion. I think nowadays at least some goals are likely to be statistical and short term. An easy one is extra base hits (doubles and triples), which normalizes around 48 1610 PAs. By this goal Benintendi has a dominant 13 doubles and triples. By comparison, Moncada has 6, Devers 3. Have you thought about moving Benintendi to #1 in your rankings? At least among position players. FTFY. www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17659
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Post by deepjohn on Apr 23, 2016 14:09:04 GMT -5
I think nowadays at least some goals are likely to be statistical and short term. An easy one is extra base hits (doubles and triples), which normalizes around 48 1610 PAs. By this goal Benintendi has a dominant 13 doubles and triples. By comparison, Moncada has 6, Devers 3. Have you thought about moving Benintendi to #1 in your rankings? At least among position players. FTFY. www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17659Yes, thanks. The interesting idea I've been looking at is how early does the data just start to normalize, or IOW how early can you have even a low confidence level. (ADD: reliability is a spectrum, not a single point.) I suspect that the Red Sox would want to analyze even a low confidence level as soon as they can, in order to trade (as with Margot) or keep and promote (as with Benintendi) while they have a market advantage. www.baseballprospectus.com/a/14215www.fangraphs.com/blogs/a-new-way-to-look-at-sample-size/
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Post by ethanbein on Apr 23, 2016 15:33:24 GMT -5
Yes, thanks. The interesting idea I've been looking at is how early does the data just start to normalize, or IOW how early can you have even a low confidence level. (ADD: reliability is a spectrum, not a single point.) I suspect that the Red Sox would want to analyze even a low confidence level as soon as they can, in order to trade (as with Margot) or keep and promote (as with Benintendi) while they have a market advantage. www.baseballprospectus.com/a/14215www.fangraphs.com/blogs/a-new-way-to-look-at-sample-size/Yes, reliability is a spectrum, not a point. You just picked a different point - there's nothing special about 47 PA. XBH rate is a noisy stat and requiring a lower threshold to call it "normalized" does not make it less so. Benintendi is amazing and should be in AA, but lot because his PA passed some threshold such that XBH rate has some tiny but nonzero split sample correlation.
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Post by deepjohn on Apr 23, 2016 17:32:46 GMT -5
Yes, thanks. The interesting idea I've been looking at is how early does the data just start to normalize, or IOW how early can you have even a low confidence level. (ADD: reliability is a spectrum, not a single point.) I suspect that the Red Sox would want to analyze even a low confidence level as soon as they can, in order to trade (as with Margot) or keep and promote (as with Benintendi) while they have a market advantage. www.baseballprospectus.com/a/14215www.fangraphs.com/blogs/a-new-way-to-look-at-sample-size/Yes, reliability is a spectrum, not a point. You just picked a different point - there's nothing special about 47 PA. XBH rate is a noisy stat and requiring a lower threshold to call it "normalized" does not make it less so. Benintendi is amazing and should be in AA, but lot because his PA passed some threshold such that XBH rate has some tiny but nonzero split sample correlation. Appreciate the explanation. I think you've given a very clear way to describe my contrarian approach of looking for some low "threshold such that XBH rate has some tiny but nonzero split sample correlation." I think the value of contrarian analysis, if it has any, is that it can find value where others cannot. Of course, it could also be gibberish, or bad faith or a complete waste of time, as some here seem to feel my posts are. But let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. We agree on the remarkable points, that reliability is a spectrum not a point, and that Benintendi is amazing and should be in AA!
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Post by splendidsplinter on Apr 24, 2016 17:38:47 GMT -5
Can we change the rules? How about been with current team at least a month , in the SP top 60 and you can vote for a pitcher and a position plater. If so, I'll go with BennyAngel and Jake "99" Cosart.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 26, 2016 12:29:59 GMT -5
Badler feels our pain: www.baseballamerica.com/minors/10-prospects-in-line-for-quick-promotions/#YhLi4zmSPF50TeUD.97 2. Andrew Benintendi, of, Red Sox
The reigning college player of the year, Benintendi is having little trouble making contact or driving the ball for extra-base hits in the high Class A Carolina League. He likely wouldn’t have any trouble making the jump to Double-A, where the No. 2 overall pick in the draft, Astros shortstop Alex Bregman, is already flourishing. The Red Sox typically have let even their best prospects stay at one level for a while, but with Dave Dombrowski now in charge, perhaps that could change, especially if the Red Sox are influenced by the drafted one year, MLB the next precedent set by a pair of elite college hitters in Michael Conforto and Kyle Schwarber last year.
3. Yoan Moncada, 2b, Red Sox
Just like Benintendi, his Salem teammate, Moncada could test where the Red Sox are philosophically when it comes to pushing prospects aggressively or remaining patient in keeping them in one place for an extended period. Once Moncada shook off the rust from his layoff in the second half last year, he’s been unstoppable at the plate and on the basepaths, becoming the top-ranked prospect still in the minors. One scout who watched Moncada recently said he was playing way beyond the Carolina League level. The Red Sox do have a legitimate second base prospect ahead of him at Double-A, however, in Wendell Rijo.
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Post by jchang on Apr 26, 2016 12:44:06 GMT -5
I would factor in the schedule, Salem so far has played 3 teams, Car, WS and Fre, this weekend they go to MB, then have Lyn and Wil in the next two weeks. I could see Beni and Moncada playing those two series then moving to Portland, no point waiting for the All-stars game.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Apr 26, 2016 15:05:33 GMT -5
Lol. Let's let it warm up a bit in Portland before we send our two future stars there.
36 degrees right now, feels like 29. Snow advisory.
They'll move up soon enough.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Apr 26, 2016 15:40:47 GMT -5
I've never lived in New England.....I know Portland is a decent size town, but isn't it more conducive for Short Season ball. I remember them having their AA team in CT, is it that much of a drop in temp between the 2?....I have the same distaste for the Southern League due to the heat on the players. My father played in Tulsa in AA for a year & couldn't keep any weight on.
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 26, 2016 17:24:17 GMT -5
So no place is perfect. It's too hot, it's too cold. Just deal with it. It's going to be mid-50's and full sun Wed - Sun in Portland. One crappy day and people feel the need to complain. It's actually been pretty nice weather up here in the seacoast this spring.
Maybe they should just shorten seasons (at MLB level, too). Start 2 weeks later and end 2 weeks earlier.
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Post by larrycook on Apr 26, 2016 21:01:53 GMT -5
I thought Portland was one of the best minor league baseball towns in the country?
Seems like a great atmosphere for a player, despite the bone numbing cold.
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Post by telson13 on Apr 26, 2016 21:30:07 GMT -5
So no place is perfect. It's too hot, it's too cold. Just deal with it. It's going to be mid-50's and full sun Wed - Sun in Portland. One crappy day and people feel the need to complain. It's actually been pretty nice weather up here in the seacoast this spring. Maybe they should just shorten seasons (at MLB level, too). Start 2 weeks later and end 2 weeks earlier. Yeah, I don't get the whole stink about playing in Portland in the spring. So it's cold...I went to school in ME and used to run meets in 40 degree weather. And I was a sprinter...I was impressed with the steeplechasers doing 3000m and jumping in water that sometimes had a leftover ice crust. It just made 80 degrees and running in June that much more glorious. Besides, Portland is an awesome place to see a game. Great town. Too bad Portsmouth doesn't have a team, too. Lowell's a really nice park too, but the surrounding area leaves a bit to be desired.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 27, 2016 8:12:12 GMT -5
I have lived in the Portland area for 30 years, great city and a great place to catch a game. As far as the weather goes and how it is for the players, Boston isn't too far south. Not a bad idea for players who hope to make it to Boston to get used to the cold in the spring.
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Post by jchang on Apr 27, 2016 8:36:50 GMT -5
So no place is perfect. It's too hot, it's too cold. Just deal with it. It's going to be mid-50's and full sun Wed - Sun in Portland. One crappy day and people feel the need to complain. It's actually been pretty nice weather up here in the seacoast this spring. Maybe they should just shorten seasons (at MLB level, too). Start 2 weeks later and end 2 weeks earlier. Medellin is as close perfect climate as you can get, 80-82 year round
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 27, 2016 9:02:06 GMT -5
The mountaineous parts of central Mexico are like that as well. It's easy to figure out. Get near the equator at about 7,000' (if you can find it) and on the lee side of the mountains. Now get comfortable!
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 27, 2016 10:33:18 GMT -5
I have lived in the Portland area for 30 years, great city and a great place to catch a game. As far as the weather goes and how it is for the players, Boston isn't too far south. Not a bad idea for players who hope to make it to Boston to get used to the cold in the spring. I grew up in Kennebunk and lived in Maine until the mid 1990s. I spend 3 months in southern Maine each year and get to see 5-6 games at Hadlock....Great park and enthusiastic fans. It would be a blow to move AA out of Portland. It is tough in April to be sure...so here is an argument for playing most of the early games on the road.
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