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6/27-6/29 Red Sox @ Rays Series Thread
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 29, 2016 14:02:11 GMT -5
Angry yet ? ... isn't it pretty clear his teams underachieving? I'm not angry. It's sports. Following my sports teams is fun, at least most of the time. It's not clear this team is underachieving. That implies their expected performance, as a unit, has been measured and that they're not hitting it. Have you performed this measurement? Will you share the results so we all can appreciate, and scrutinize, your methodology? Or is this your lyin' eyes speaking again?
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Post by dnfl333 on Jun 29, 2016 14:04:03 GMT -5
Jim Leyland just snuffed out his last smoke before heading to the airport.
Bye Bye John, Carl
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Post by trotfan on Jun 29, 2016 14:14:45 GMT -5
Redsox are a flawed baseball team top to bottom ..the message boards now resemble wine and cheese fans .I would like my dirt dogs back both on and off the field ....good day
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 29, 2016 14:16:31 GMT -5
Disappointing loss....I must say I expected better given last night's win. Oh well....time and the season marches on....let's hope for better days.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 29, 2016 14:23:26 GMT -5
Ahh for the days of Jeff Frye and Darren Bragg ...
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Post by Guidas on Jun 29, 2016 14:29:29 GMT -5
Another tough loss.
I would love to know if the ownership directive to Dombrowski has changed any during this stretch. My guess was he was brought in to "win now." But I wonder if, given how they've become a decidedly sub-.500 team for the short term (June) - has it changed to - "WIN NOW G*#DAMMIT!" or "Ok, hang on a sec."
Of course there is the school of thought that the entire slide correlates almost perfectly with Holt going on the DL. Holt being the "gritty" "energy guy" glue that holds this whole fragile unit together. You know, like a blonde, beardless Gomes.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Jun 29, 2016 14:31:10 GMT -5
Maybe Kevin Boles will come up with Wilkerson. Miller & JF to Pawt.
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Post by jmei on Jun 29, 2016 14:44:31 GMT -5
Redsox are a flawed baseball team top to bottom ..the message boards now resemble wine and cheese fans .I would like my dirt dogs back both on and off the field ....good day Please check your private messages. You were warned about posting so frequently and repetitively two days ago, when you'd made 43 posts in your first 24 hours here. It's now been three days and 72 posts, which is still much too often, especially since your posts are the same couple themes repeated over and over again. Please cool your jets. Thanks.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 29, 2016 14:55:58 GMT -5
… Of course there is the school of thought that the entire slide correlates almost perfectly with Holt going on the DL. Holt being the "gritty" "energy guy" glue that holds this whole fragile unit together. You know, like a blonde, beardless Gomes.It's sacrilegious to compare Brock Holt to a guy who almost died 5 times. Stared DEATH in the face and sneered. I mean, don't. Brock Holt takes a month and a half off because he got his bell rung. Gomes would've been ready to go the next day.
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Post by trotfan on Jun 29, 2016 14:56:26 GMT -5
Jamey I got it ....last post ever isn't this a perfect time to let JF go ? Day off tomorrow and games at home coming up.....then AS game .
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Post by Guidas on Jun 29, 2016 15:25:54 GMT -5
… Of course there is the school of thought that the entire slide correlates almost perfectly with Holt going on the DL. Holt being the "gritty" "energy guy" glue that holds this whole fragile unit together. You know, like a blonde, beardless Gomes.It's sacrilegious to compare Brock Holt to a guy who almost died 5 times. Stared DEATH in the face and sneered. I mean, don't. Brock Holt takes a month and a half off because he got his bell rung. Gomes would've been ready to go the next day. Well, yes, Johnny Gomes is the Thor of Gritty Team Playerness
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 29, 2016 16:20:23 GMT -5
It's sacrilegious to compare Brock Holt to a guy who almost died 5 times. Stared DEATH in the face and sneered. I mean, don't. Brock Holt takes a month and a half off because he got his bell rung. Gomes would've been ready to go the next day. Well, yes, Johnny Gomes is the Thor of Gritty Team Playerness Or maybe Odin, who was closely associated with Death, and was also one-eyed, which would help explain Jonny's difficulties with hitting. But Thor was mighty and liked to hallow, much like our boy Jonny. So one or the other will do. Flip a coin, I suppose.
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Post by p23w on Jun 29, 2016 16:32:52 GMT -5
Another tough loss. I would love to know if the ownership directive to Dombrowski has changed any during this stretch. My guess was he was brought in to "win now." But I wonder if, given how they've become a decidedly sub-.500 team for the short term (June) - has it changed to - "WIN NOW G*#DAMMIT!" or "Ok, hang on a sec." Of course there is the school of thought that the entire slide correlates almost perfectly with Holt going on the DL. Holt being the "gritty" "energy guy" glue that holds this whole fragile unit together. You know, like a blonde, beardless Gomes. Dombrowski was brought to Detroit, to win a championship for an aging pizza magnet. He had carte blanche resources. He failed. DD never did get it right with his bullpen. I don't believe his track record with pitchers is not very good. Don't know why, just know he has made poor choices in the past. Not sure I trust this guy to win one for the Bosox. We all like Holt, but let's be realistic. The 2016 Red Sox are all about pitching, or the lack thereof. If not for Wright this team would be neck and neck with the NYYankees.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 29, 2016 19:01:05 GMT -5
Redsox are a flawed baseball team top to bottom ..the message boards now resemble wine and cheese fans .I would like my dirt dogs back both on and off the field ....good day Please check your private messages. You were warned about posting so frequently and repetitively two days ago, when you'd made 43 posts in your first 24 hours here. It's now been three days and 72 posts, which is still much too often, especially since your posts are the same couple themes repeated over and over again. Please cool your jets. Thanks. When I first started posting here I remember posters being put on posting limits. This guy is just looking for trouble, but I'd like to see some kind of posting limits on all posters. We have one long time poster who thinks his words are more worthy than others.
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Post by larrycook on Jun 29, 2016 19:05:20 GMT -5
A note on price:
He came out this afternoon and he was amped up. When he gets amped up, his body gets out in front of the arm and the arm drags behind. When the arm drags, his pitches flatten out and hitters feast on him.
When he calms down, he goes back to being a stud pitcher.
We need Carl Willis to trot out to mound early and often when he sees price's arm dragging and calm price down.
Although I never watched price closely in the playoffs previously, I would be willing to bet his body speeding up causing his arm to drag might have been a factor I his poor playoff record.
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Post by jmei on Jun 29, 2016 20:05:30 GMT -5
Please check your private messages. You were warned about posting so frequently and repetitively two days ago, when you'd made 43 posts in your first 24 hours here. It's now been three days and 72 posts, which is still much too often, especially since your posts are the same couple themes repeated over and over again. Please cool your jets. Thanks. When I first started posting here I remember posters being put on posting limits. This guy is just looking for trouble, but I'd like to see some kind of posting limits on all posters. We have one long time poster who thinks his words are more worthy than others. Unfortunately, we don't have that functionality with these forums. We've looked into it.
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Post by gerry on Jun 29, 2016 21:03:34 GMT -5
Redsox are a flawed baseball team top to bottom ..the message boards now resemble wine and cheese fans .I would like my dirt dogs back both on and off the field . ...good day Flawed? Yes, from day one, yet remain serious contenders right into July. That is not a small sample size. Yet, 4 or 5 guys will be All-stars for record smashing performances, 4 or 5 more are on the DL, and 4 or 5 are AAA callups to replace them for awhile. I think the muddy chicken would be poking his fingers into YOUR chest to hear you say they aren't dirt dogs. As I wrote that I remembered Hanley being Hanley running like a rookie and limping like a DL to score runs, Big Papi stealing a base and legging it home, Betts, Blake, Bogaerts, Bradley, Brentz and Brockstar flying into walls and across the ground to prevent hits, Shaw making amazing barehanded plays, and Hanigan/Leon and Vasquez making great blocks and throws despite injuries. Dirtdogs all. Pitching? So much talent, so few good results. And what do you have against wine and cheese? Never partied with pizza and Chianti? Enchiladas and Sangria? Wines are made and drunk all over this beautiful world by peasants and kings. Life is just too complicated to limit its input to beer and burgers, no matter how good they are. Would it be OK if Sox fans enjoyed the universe of craft beers and garlic fries? Not dirt dog enough? Just teasing.
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Post by nomar on Jun 30, 2016 7:07:44 GMT -5
Gerry, I know you were being metaphorical and made solid points, but you also made me so hungry it's ridiculous.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 30, 2016 8:11:20 GMT -5
I hated the Dirt Dog mythology so much, especially as it applied to Trot Nixon. Mostly, it was that racist POS website with the same name that killed it for me, but the whole thing was terrible. Trot Nixon had some talent and had some good years, but he was a stupid baseball player that continually made mistakes that should've gotten him booed. But everyone was all "ooo, look at the dirt on his uniform." Drove me nuts.
Had to get that off my chest, thanks for listening.
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Post by wcp3 on Jun 30, 2016 8:18:49 GMT -5
Please check your private messages. You were warned about posting so frequently and repetitively two days ago, when you'd made 43 posts in your first 24 hours here. It's now been three days and 72 posts, which is still much too often, especially since your posts are the same couple themes repeated over and over again. Please cool your jets. Thanks. When I first started posting here I remember posters being put on posting limits. This guy is just looking for trouble, but I'd like to see some kind of posting limits on all posters. We have one long time poster who thinks his words are more worthy than others. That's because my words are more worthy. 😊
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 30, 2016 11:10:03 GMT -5
Farrell is 188-219 against AL East Teams in his career, well below .500
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jun 30, 2016 11:30:44 GMT -5
When I first started posting here I remember posters being put on posting limits. This guy is just looking for trouble, but I'd like to see some kind of posting limits on all posters. We have one long time poster who thinks his words are more worthy than others. That's because my words are more worthy. 😊 Here I thought it was MY words that were more worthy!!! But seriously, I don't know that the Sox are flawed from top to bottom. I think the real flaws are at the top -- of the salary scale, at least. They are giving $90M a year to 4 players who are giving them fair to absolutely no performance. That is NOT what you expect when you give $90M to 4 players. It is ironic that the Sox are getting out of Travis Shaw EXACTLY what they would have had a right to expect/hope for from Pablo Sandoval, to this point.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jun 30, 2016 11:31:08 GMT -5
Double post. Deleted
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