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Post by larrycook on Jun 9, 2017 21:54:14 GMT -5
With regards to Brent Rooker, this is how his Junior year in the SEC compares to Andrew Benintendi’s junior year the season before the Sox drafted him: Player AVG GP AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SLG% BB SO OB% SB-ATT Brent Rooker .395 65 243 57 96 30 3 23 82 .827 45 54 .498 18-23 Andrew Benintendi .376 65 226 62 85 13 2 20 57 .717 50 32 .488 24-28 Also, it should be noted, that Rooker was a redshirt junior this year, and was 1 year & 8 months older than Benintendi was during their respective junior seasons, Benintendi is only 4 months older than Rooker. I have been impressed all year by rooker' swing and plan at the plate. another guy very similar to rooker is deichmann from LSU. Nice swing and some power.
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Post by jdb on Jun 10, 2017 13:45:50 GMT -5
I'm really starting to like Wakes Stuart Fairchild. Probably a little soon in 1 though and will be gone by our second rounders.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 10, 2017 16:01:46 GMT -5
With regards to Brent Rooker, this is how his Junior year in the SEC compares to Andrew Benintendi’s junior year the season before the Sox drafted him: Player AVG GP AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SLG% BB SO OB% SB-ATT Brent Rooker .395 65 243 57 96 30 3 23 82 .827 45 54 .498 18-23 Andrew Benintendi .376 65 226 62 85 13 2 20 57 .717 50 32 .488 24-28 Also, it should be noted, that Rooker was a redshirt junior this year, and was 1 year & 8 months older than Benintendi was during their respective junior seasons, Benintendi is only 4 months older than Rooker. One of the college head coaches I know loves Rooker. Dude had nearly video game numbers this year. He is 24, however, so much different than Benintendi, who is 22 and playing MLB. EDIT: As Danr points out, Rooker is 23. My bad, but older prospect often come with the tag (rightly or wrongly) of "he's nearly reached his ceiling" or "there's not much room for projection left." Whether this is accurate in Rooker's case, I don't know.
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Post by danr on Jun 10, 2017 17:29:20 GMT -5
Keith Law: "Rooker simplified his swing this spring and has produced video-game numbers in the powerful SEC, but he’ll turn 23 in November, making him older than at least four players currently in the big leagues, and has no position other than (maybe) first base."
Law ranked him 91st.
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Post by larrycook on Jun 10, 2017 17:52:51 GMT -5
This draft is only about 20 good players deep in the first round.
My favorite college pitcher that might be available at 24 is Houck.
If houck is off the board (and I think if I were Toronto, I would be targeting him), then enlow has a beautiful low stress delivery that I really like. He makes perfect sense for us as he projects as a starter.
Plan b if houck is off the board, is to take a rooker or deichmann in round one and save some serious cash for hard to sign high school pitchers later on in the draft.
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Post by dirtdog on Jun 10, 2017 22:19:10 GMT -5
One name that has surfaced multiple times on the position player side is UC Irvine second baseman/outfielder Keston Hiura. Hiura has been tabbed by draft experts as the best pure hitter in the draft, but has been hampered by an elbow injury that will likely require surgery. Nevertheless, he's hit .442 average and 1.260 OPS with 24 doubles, a triple and eight homers in 56 games this season. On the pitching side, the Red Sox have been connected to Missouri right-hander Tanner Houck who posted a 3.33 ERA with 95 strikeouts and 24 walks in 94 2/3 innings this spring for the Tigers. The Red Sox have been tied to Oregon lefty David Peterson, who they drafted out of high school in 2014. The lefty posted a 2.51 ERA through 15 starts this spring for the Ducks. He posted 140 strikeouts and 15 walks in 100 1/3 innings and held batters to a .237 average. www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/06/mlb_draft_2017_red_sox_preppin.html
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Post by sarasoxer on Jun 11, 2017 7:10:18 GMT -5
I realize that we are more beggar than chooser at 24 but for 1st round picks all those guys have warts or less than stellar stats. International seems the most fertile ground.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 11, 2017 10:38:27 GMT -5
Still mystified that MLB has yet to see the value in trading draft picks, even if just in the first 3-4 rounds. Imagine the excitement if that was involved, esp, say if a team like Minn., who is in it this year so far, could use 1-1 + the inherent slot dollars with that pick to get a piece to increase their odds of making the playoffs or making a run. Makes almost no sense.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 11, 2017 10:57:00 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 11, 2017 11:06:00 GMT -5
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Post by soxpatsceltics on Jun 11, 2017 12:35:10 GMT -5
Gut feeling is that Hiura is gone before 24. I think then the pick will be high school BPA between Nick Allen, Sam Carlson, or Matt Sauer.
Wild card is Seth Romero who probably has the highest ceiling at 24 but comes with a lot of off the field baggage.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 11, 2017 13:08:58 GMT -5
Nick Pratto sounds very interesting. MLB.com says he might be the best prep bat in class and a plus defender at 1B.
My only thing is your passing on 3 really good College arms in Canning, Peterson and Romero.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 11, 2017 13:56:32 GMT -5
Nick Pratto sounds very interesting. MLB.com says he might be the best prep bat in class and a plus defender at 1B. My only thing is your passing on 3 really good College arms in Canning, Peterson and Romero. And as a 1Bman, your bat pretty much HAS to carry you all the way, as there is typically no positional versatility with 1b-men and doubtful he brings much to the basepaths. At least he's a potential plus defender. So they'd better be damn sure about that bat.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 11, 2017 14:22:32 GMT -5
Nick Pratto sounds very interesting. MLB.com says he might be the best prep bat in class and a plus defender at 1B. My only thing is your passing on 3 really good College arms in Canning, Peterson and Romero. And as a 1Bman, your bat pretty much HAS to carry you all the way, as there is typically no positional versatility with 1b-men and doubtful he brings much to the basepaths. At least he's a potential plus defender. So they'd better be damn sure about that bat. That's why I would take Canning, Peterson or Romero. All three were still on the board in Laws most recent mock. That's a very interesting group of College pitchers, who not long ago were all going to be gone before we picked. That being said almost everyone has Pratto rated in mid teens and more than one scout has called him best pure hitter in prep class. So if you're going to gamble at #24 on a prep player, he makes sense. In a way it seems like good value.
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Post by bnich on Jun 11, 2017 14:42:26 GMT -5
And as a 1Bman, your bat pretty much HAS to carry you all the way, as there is typically no positional versatility with 1b-men and doubtful he brings much to the basepaths. At least he's a potential plus defender. So they'd better be damn sure about that bat. That's why I would take Canning, Peterson or Romero. All three were still on the board in Laws most recent mock. That's a very interesting group of College pitchers, who not long ago were all going to be gone before we picked. That being said almost everyone has Pratto rated in mid teens and more than one scout has called him best pure hitter in prep class. So if you're going to gamble at #24 on a prep player, he makes sense. In a way it seems like good value. If he's there at #24 it is hard for me to pass up Peterson.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 11, 2017 14:48:45 GMT -5
I'm not opposed to going Sauer or another high upside power HS arm. Just choose wisely.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 11, 2017 15:08:08 GMT -5
That's why I would take Canning, Peterson or Romero. All three were still on the board in Laws most recent mock. That's a very interesting group of College pitchers, who not long ago were all going to be gone before we picked. That being said almost everyone has Pratto rated in mid teens and more than one scout has called him best pure hitter in prep class. So if you're going to gamble at #24 on a prep player, he makes sense. In a way it seems like good value. If he's there at #24 it is hard for me to pass up Peterson. I'd be surprised in Hiura or the pitchers Peterson and Canning were around when the 24th pick comes up. I can see Romero being there, though.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 11, 2017 15:48:47 GMT -5
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Post by michael on Jun 11, 2017 18:39:49 GMT -5
Nick Pratto sounds very interesting. MLB.com says he might be the best prep bat in class and a plus defender at 1B. My only thing is your passing on 3 really good College arms in Canning, Peterson and Romero. And as a 1Bman, your bat pretty much HAS to carry you all the way, as there is typically no positional versatility with 1b-men and doubtful he brings much to the basepaths. At least he's a potential plus defender. So they'd better be damn sure about that bat. Would the current Sox 1B be a possible comparison?
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jun 11, 2017 19:44:49 GMT -5
A few times this spring I've heard from a friend that the Sox were present at Beau Sulser starts for Dartmouth. I asked Pipeline a question about him a few weeks ago but it didn't get answered. The first time I've seen him mentioned at all about the draft was today on minorleagueball's statistical senior signs. A name to watch, I think.
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Post by geostorm on Jun 11, 2017 20:21:42 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 11, 2017 20:49:17 GMT -5
Frankie Piliere @fpiliered1 David Peterson @oregonbaseball also continuing to get significant buzz as a potential #Mariners pick at 17
Frankie Piliere @fpiliered1 Logan Warmoth @diamondheels is getting a late stock bump. Clear top SS in college crop - helps him a lot. #Tigers showing a lot of interest
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 11, 2017 20:53:56 GMT -5
Frankie Piliere @fpiliered1 David Peterson @oregonbaseball also continuing to get significant buzz as a potential #Mariners pick at 17 Frankie Piliere @fpiliered1 Logan Warmoth @diamondheels is getting a late stock bump. Clear top SS in college crop - helps him a lot. #Tigers showing a lot of interest I can't imagine Peterson dropping to 24. Then again I couldn't imagine Groome dropping to 12, but without any baggage and with how he'd been pitching Peterson is most likely to get chosen in the teens. I don't think there's going to be a clear-cut THIS IS THE GUY WE WERE HOPING FOR! kind of pick for the Red Sox tomorrow night, but we'll see.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 11, 2017 21:22:09 GMT -5
And as a 1Bman, your bat pretty much HAS to carry you all the way, as there is typically no positional versatility with 1b-men and doubtful he brings much to the basepaths. At least he's a potential plus defender. So they'd better be damn sure about that bat. That's why I would take Canning, Peterson or Romero. All three were still on the board in Laws most recent mock. That's a very interesting group of College pitchers, who not long ago were all going to be gone before we picked. That being said almost everyone has Pratto rated in mid teens and more than one scout has called him best pure hitter in prep class. So if you're going to gamble at #24 on a prep player, he makes sense. In a way it seems like good value. Canning's medical is apparently starting to scare some teams off. m.mlb.com/news/article/234660412/2017-draft-buzz-what-callis-mayo-are-hearing/?topicid=151437456
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