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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 7, 2017 10:07:46 GMT -5
The leverage index when Scott entered the game was 1.54, which is higher than his average leverage index this year of 1.10. That doesn't take into account that the game was against a division rival and the Red Sox had a rested bullpen coming off a day off. If Farrell wants to start experimenting with Scott against RHP, there are much, much lower leverage situations he should have started with. I mean I get that, but it's not like he has a tremendous bullpen to work with and the Red Sox needed a lot of outs. If Carson and Thornburg were healthy (LOL) then it wouldn't make sense to pass on them, but to pass on guys like Hembree and Workman? That's cool. There's also a slight mental thing, a guy like Scott does really well all year and doesn't get a shot ever at a bigger role? That doesn't fly, that's very undemocratic.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 7, 2017 10:11:10 GMT -5
Scott has been facing more righties in higher leverage recently though. He faced two in St. Louis and a tough one (Mike Napoli) in Texas. Farrell also may have wanted the switch-hitters up hitting right-handed. Scott also has gotten some low-leverage reps against RHB this season.
What do you think would be ideal there? Maybe Hembree for Castro/Hicks then Scott for Gregorius/Headley?
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Post by jmei on Jun 7, 2017 10:15:30 GMT -5
It'd be one thing if Scott was a guy who you had hopes of being a setup guy who can shut down both righties and lefties. But every indication (scouting and statistical) suggests that he's a LOOGY-type. With a rested bullpen, I think Farrell could have been more aggressive with trying to use two guys (say, Hembree and Scott) to get through the sixth rather than just putting it all on Scott. Instead, he brought in Scott in a situation where the first two hitters he'd face are a RHH (Castro) and a switch-hitter who hits better from the right side (Hicks). ADD: What do you think would be ideal there? Maybe Hembree for Castro/Hicks then Scott for Gregorius/Headley? Yes. Leaves you with Kelly/Barnes/Kimbrel (and maybe Abad for a tough lefty) for three innings if it's a tight game, and Workman and Boyer if it's not or if it goes into extras. With Rodriguez on the DL, Farrell had a rested eight-man bullpen. Need to be more aggressive in that situation.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 7, 2017 11:17:08 GMT -5
That was a good win last night. Sets the tone to get at least 2 this series. On review, Vasquez should have blocked that pitch, that was poor form.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 7, 2017 12:15:11 GMT -5
Farrell seems, to me, to be partitioning the bullpen on a game by game basis. So Hembree gets put aside for tonight, perhaps? That may not be the best way to approach this. The situational approach that jmei lays out looks like a better alternative.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 7, 2017 12:23:48 GMT -5
It'd be one thing if Scott was a guy who you had hopes of being a setup guy who can shut down both righties and lefties. But every indication (scouting and statistical) suggests that he's a LOOGY-type. With a rested bullpen, I think Farrell could have been more aggressive with trying to use two guys (say, Hembree and Scott) to get through the sixth rather than just putting it all on Scott. Instead, he brought in Scott in a situation where the first two hitters he'd face are a RHH (Castro) and a switch-hitter who hits better from the right side (Hicks). ADD: What do you think would be ideal there? Maybe Hembree for Castro/Hicks then Scott for Gregorius/Headley? Yes. Leaves you with Kelly/Barnes/Kimbrel (and maybe Abad for a tough lefty) for three innings if it's a tight game, and Workman and Boyer if it's not or if it goes into extras. With Rodriguez on the DL, Farrell had a rested eight-man bullpen. Need to be more aggressive in that situation. Fair. My guess is that he liked Scott better against Hicks, but I think that's wrong. Hicks has hit well left-handed this year, but not historically.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 7, 2017 13:02:49 GMT -5
It'd be one thing if Scott was a guy who you had hopes of being a setup guy who can shut down both righties and lefties. But every indication (scouting and statistical) suggests that he's a LOOGY-type. With a rested bullpen, I think Farrell could have been more aggressive with trying to use two guys (say, Hembree and Scott) to get through the sixth rather than just putting it all on Scott. Instead, he brought in Scott in a situation where the first two hitters he'd face are a RHH (Castro) and a switch-hitter who hits better from the right side (Hicks). ADD: Yes. Leaves you with Kelly/Barnes/Kimbrel (and maybe Abad for a tough lefty) for three innings if it's a tight game, and Workman and Boyer if it's not or if it goes into extras. With Rodriguez on the DL, Farrell had a rested eight-man bullpen. Need to be more aggressive in that situation. Fair. My guess is that he liked Scott better against Hicks, but I think that's wrong. Hicks has hit well left-handed this year, but not historically. Hicks is hitting like Papi in 2007 this year. How the hell do the Yankees keep getting handed players like this?
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Post by jackiebradleyjrjr on Jun 7, 2017 13:38:52 GMT -5
Farrell seems, to me, to be partitioning the bullpen on a game by game basis. So Hembree gets put aside for tonight, perhaps? That may not be the best way to approach this. The situational approach that jmei lays out looks like a better alternative. I'm not sure what JF is doing. I was thinking along the same lines as you, but then I noticed Hembree warmed up twice last night. Once in the fifth and again in the eighth.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jun 7, 2017 14:22:32 GMT -5
This team is fairly limited when the starter can only go 5, especially in close games when you have guys like Abad and Boyer on the team instead of Smith and Thornburg.
Kelly seems to be coming into his own in the bullpen, though his advanced numbers aren't nearly as good as his ERA, though still very good. The 0.0% HR/FB likely has something to do with it, as he's never really kept that under 10%, and his BB rate is still high, especially for a guy the team may be moving towards the potential "set-up" position.
But again, if Smith and/or Thornburg come back, it's a massive boost, if only because you get a guy who should be able to be productive over what essentially is a useless roster spot in Abad at this point
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 7, 2017 16:08:40 GMT -5
Bold prediction and very hot take: if Carson and Thornburg come back and actually be as good as they should be, the Red Sox are the best team in baseball.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 7, 2017 17:02:34 GMT -5
Bold prediction and very hot take: if Carson and Thornburg come back and actually be as good as they should be, the Red Sox are the best team in baseball. I think they'll need last year's Mookie, a healthy Pedey, more from Hanley, and some better solution at 3B. Well, 2 or 3 of these anyway. Also wondering if Callahan and/or Buttrey can be any help in the pen come August and esp. September. I have a lot more confidence in Carson Smith being effective this year than Thornburg.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 7, 2017 17:18:12 GMT -5
I'll be at the game guys. Hoping my magic translates better than it did to Lugo.
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Post by bookiemetts on Jun 7, 2017 17:39:14 GMT -5
I'll be at the game guys. Hoping my magic translates better than it did to Lugo. Hope you can snag Sam Travis' first career HR lol
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 7, 2017 18:06:50 GMT -5
Bold prediction and very hot take: if Carson and Thornburg come back and actually be as good as they should be, the Red Sox are the best team in baseball. I think they'll need last year's Mookie, a healthy Pedey, more from Hanley, and some better solution at 3B. Well, 2 or 3 of these anyway. Also wondering if Callahan and/or Buttrey can be any help in the pen come August and esp. September. I have a lot more confidence in Carson Smith being effective this year than Thornburg. Well, they're top 8 right now certainly (they're 6th-8th in the power rankings I just skimmed expecting about that). If you add two true setup men, that at least pushes them into the top 5.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 7, 2017 18:20:26 GMT -5
Nice Porcello.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 7, 2017 18:31:14 GMT -5
Kimbrel unavailable today. Farrell announced it on the WEEI pregame show. Barnes will get the ninth inning.
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Post by wesmantooth on Jun 7, 2017 18:37:41 GMT -5
No Buenas Noches amigos from Remy tonight? I guess it is 2017.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 7, 2017 18:43:00 GMT -5
Dammit.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 7, 2017 18:46:05 GMT -5
well, that's just swell...NOT
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Post by wesmantooth on Jun 7, 2017 18:46:05 GMT -5
2017 Porcello would put my grandmother on base smh.
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Post by station13 on Jun 7, 2017 18:47:39 GMT -5
Get a real 3B
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Post by Guidas on Jun 7, 2017 18:49:59 GMT -5
Welp.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 7, 2017 18:56:34 GMT -5
I swear, whenever they finally use robot umps, the Yankees will never win again. That 3rd pitch to Judge that was called a ball was already called a strike for Sabathia 3 times.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 7, 2017 18:56:50 GMT -5
Other than the cookie, Porcello is having a hell of a game.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 7, 2017 18:57:50 GMT -5
Kimbrel unavailable today. Farrell announced it on the WEEI pregame show. Barnes will get the ninth inning. So much for our theory of Farrell using Kelly in higher leverage than Barnes yesterday.
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