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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 6, 2017 22:08:57 GMT -5
That was a win they needed to have, especially now that Kimbrel probably won't be available tomorrow. Fantastic 9th by Kimbrel after he struggled a bit in the 8th. I'm surprised Kelly wasn't given the 8th. He should be second in the pecking order behind Kimbrel in the pen.
I saw the tweet by Keith Foulke about Pomeranz's arm looking uncomfortable. Hope there's nothing wrong with him.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 6, 2017 22:26:31 GMT -5
Use of Scott was a bit of a head scratcher...unless JF wanted to see how we would handle a more significant role beyond LOOGY. He certainly didn't give up hard contact - one run, got a needed DP grounder.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jun 6, 2017 22:29:45 GMT -5
Pretty incredible way for that game to wrap up. The best closer in baseball at the moment and arguable a Cy Young contender right now completely overmatching the current AL MVP.
Kimbrel is on an absolute teat, and it's becoming more and more evident that the slight nagging injury last year had some significant impact on his delivery, mechanics, and results.
Heck of a victory, now pick up one of the next two and get out of NY in a tie for the division lead
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Post by geostorm on Jun 6, 2017 22:37:22 GMT -5
...I'm taking a stab at this and saying that for all the entertainment and potential talking points from that very entertaining game, the primary focus, tomorrow, on talk radio/TV/social media will be the Remy-O'Brian exchange regarding the "extra guy on the mound" aka "the translator"...
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 6, 2017 22:58:23 GMT -5
Pretty incredible way for that game to wrap up. The best closer in baseball at the moment and arguable a Cy Young contender right now completely overmatching the current AL MVP. Kimbrel is on an absolute teat, and it's becoming more and more evident that the slight nagging injury last year had some significant impact on his delivery, mechanics, and results. Heck of a victory, now pick up one of the next two and get out of NY in a tie for the division leadActually if the Sox split the next two games with NY, the Sox will still remain 1 game out. If the Sox take both games then the Sox take a 1 game lead. The only way they can leave NY tied is if Boston wins one game and the other game gets rained out.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jun 6, 2017 23:19:21 GMT -5
Pretty incredible way for that game to wrap up. The best closer in baseball at the moment and arguable a Cy Young contender right now completely overmatching the current AL MVP. Kimbrel is on an absolute teat, and it's becoming more and more evident that the slight nagging injury last year had some significant impact on his delivery, mechanics, and results. Heck of a victory, now pick up one of the next two and get out of NY in a tie for the division leadActually if the Sox split the next two games with NY, the Sox will still remain 1 game out. If the Sox take both games then the Sox take a 1 game lead. The only way they can leave NY tied is if Boston wins one game and the other game gets rained out. I'm a moron....and should probably think before I finish writing
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Jun 7, 2017 0:21:12 GMT -5
got money on Cy Kelly hitting 110 at some point this summer
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Post by manfred on Jun 7, 2017 1:33:29 GMT -5
A lot to like, but I am worried about wear on Pomeranz and Kimbrel. Barnes is back to being unreliable, so Kelly is going to have to be the man. They can't keep using Kimbrel like this. I worry that they might be facing late season breakdowns.
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Post by marrcus on Jun 7, 2017 4:45:19 GMT -5
"I am worried" -------------------- ...about a lot of things. It took three big knocks and a terminator act of Kimbrel to nail this one down. That probably isn't going to happen again in this series. HR's can solve a lot of problems.
It's still very disappointing that Ed Rod' didn't get his knee dealt with last fall with the winter to recover.
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Post by rivenp on Jun 7, 2017 5:13:30 GMT -5
"I am worried" -------------------- ...about a lot of things. It took three big knocks and a terminator act of Kimbrel to nail this one down. That probably isn't going to happen again in this series. HR's can solve a lot of problems. It's still very disappointing that Ed Rod' didn't get his knee dealt with last fall with the winter to recover. my understanding is that erod has an "abnormality" with his knee that makes it prone to subluxations...not sure that is something that surgery can fix.
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Post by rivenp on Jun 7, 2017 5:15:07 GMT -5
A lot to like, but I am worried about wear on Pomeranz and Kimbrel. Barnes is back to being unreliable, so Kelly is going to have to be the man. They can't keep using Kimbrel like this. I worry that they might be facing late season breakdowns. it seemed like kelly was ahead of barnes for the setup role early in the season and for some reason they've switched places...agree that at this point i would rather see kelly in the 8th.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jun 7, 2017 5:25:16 GMT -5
No way? Who's watching the game on MLBN? Last pitch 104 MPH?(on the 2-2 pitch) I was until my gf made me turn it off because I was cursing too loud. Now I'm forced to follow the play-by-play on my phone. 😞 LOL!!! I actually did LOL!! Funniest line I have ever read here on SP.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 7, 2017 5:30:17 GMT -5
A lot to like, but I am worried about wear on Pomeranz and Kimbrel. Barnes is back to being unreliable, so Kelly is going to have to be the man. They can't keep using Kimbrel like this. I worry that they might be facing late season breakdowns. it seemed like kelly was ahead of barnes for the setup role early in the season and for some reason they've switched places...agree that at this point i would rather see kelly in the 8th. Is it possible that Farrell swapped them because the middle of the order was up for the Yankees in the 7th? That's actually higher leverage than what Barnes was used for.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 7, 2017 5:31:15 GMT -5
A lot to like, but I am worried about wear on Pomeranz and Kimbrel. Barnes is back to being unreliable, so Kelly is going to have to be the man. They can't keep using Kimbrel like this. I worry that they might be facing late season breakdowns. it seemed like kelly was ahead of barnes for the setup role early in the season and for some reason they've switched places...agree that at this point i would rather see kelly in the 8th. It's not a Farrell "should have Kelly in the 8th inning" thing here. Kelly faced the heart of the order against the Yankees in the 7th. The highest chance of the Yankees scoring against the Sox bullpen was in that inning. Farrell made the right move there. He clearly trusts Kelly more than Barnes. He has also put Kelly against the heart of the order in the 6th inning against teams too. Kelly has been the main weapon for Farrell this year. The only bad part so far about Kelly is that Farrell has stayed away from using him for anything more than a inning for most of, if not all of the entire season.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 7, 2017 5:32:25 GMT -5
it seemed like kelly was ahead of barnes for the setup role early in the season and for some reason they've switched places...agree that at this point i would rather see kelly in the 8th. Is it possible that Farrell swapped them because the middle of the order was up for the Yankees in the 7th? That's actually higher leverage than what Barnes was used for. Ahh you beat me to the same point by one minute. Kudos.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 7, 2017 5:35:40 GMT -5
"I am worried" -------------------- ...about a lot of things. It took three big knocks and a terminator act of Kimbrel to nail this one down. That probably isn't going to happen again in this series. HR's can solve a lot of problems. It's still very disappointing that Ed Rod' didn't get his knee dealt with last fall with the winter to recover. The Sox can find other ways to win. Not every game is the same. The Sox face a worse pitcher tonight in CC Sabathia, maybe they'll hit just one homerun and score 9 runs. Hopefully they don't need Kimbrel tonight, he's probably unavailable.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 7, 2017 6:16:06 GMT -5
Actually if the Sox split the next two games with NY, the Sox will still remain 1 game out. If the Sox take both games then the Sox take a 1 game lead. The only way they can leave NY tied is if Boston wins one game and the other game gets rained out. I'm a moron....and should probably think before I finish writing Nah, we all make mistakes. No biggie.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jun 7, 2017 6:49:33 GMT -5
"I am worried" -------------------- ...about a lot of things. It took three big knocks and a terminator act of Kimbrel to nail this one down. That probably isn't going to happen again in this series. HR's can solve a lot of problems. It's still very disappointing that Ed Rod' didn't get his knee dealt with last fall with the winter to recover. my understanding is that erod has an "abnormality" with his knee that makes it prone to subluxations...not sure that is something that surgery can fix. I wondered about that too but it appears that surgery for knee subluxations is an option with recurrent problems. www.verywell.com/patellar-subluxation-2548746
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Post by sibbysisti on Jun 7, 2017 7:55:41 GMT -5
It's almost surreal, how punchless the Sox lineup this year is, when they were SO good last year. First and third with nobody out in the first, but I have a sinking feeling that that one run is all they'll get off Tanaka (of the 6+ ERA, btw). Pomeranz needs to start economizing. Ah, ye of little faith!
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Post by patford on Jun 7, 2017 8:10:18 GMT -5
The game is a classic "poster child" for why balls and strikes should not be called by a home plate umpire. The Sox and Yankees had completely different strike zones and it's amazing the Sox kept their cool and prevailed.
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Post by jbuttah on Jun 7, 2017 8:25:04 GMT -5
Use of Scott was a bit of a head scratcher...unless JF wanted to see how we would handle a more significant role beyond LOOGY. He certainly didn't give up hard contact - one run, got a needed DP grounder. Maybe, but a close game against the Yankees, is not the time to do it.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 7, 2017 8:29:55 GMT -5
Use of Scott was a bit of a head scratcher...unless JF wanted to see how we would handle a more significant role beyond LOOGY. He certainly didn't give up hard contact - one run, got a needed DP grounder. Maybe, but a close game against the Yankees, is not the time to do it. What about in the sixth inning of game that they were leading by three runs? Leaving the Yankee paranoia out of this, it was absolutely the right time to push Scott a little bit. He needed a lot of outs from his bullpen and the Yankee lineup was RHH, SH, LHH, SH. He induced three straight grounders, two of them very soft, resulting in two outs and one run. Then Farrell let him face another switch hitter because any major league pitcher should be able to get Chase Headley out right now. With a one-run lead it's a tougher call, but if the bullpen needs to get 12 outs then the chances are pretty high that they're going to give up at least one run, and Farrell is going to get blamed for it no matter who the reliever is who lets it in.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 7, 2017 9:45:08 GMT -5
"I am worried" -------------------- ...about a lot of things. It took three big knocks and a terminator act of Kimbrel to nail this one down. That probably isn't going to happen again in this series. HR's can solve a lot of problems. It's still very disappointing that Ed Rod' didn't get his knee dealt with last fall with the winter to recover. The Sox can find other ways to win. Not every game is the same. The Sox face a worse pitcher tonight in CC Sabathia, maybe they'll hit just one homerun and score 9 runs. Hopefully they don't need Kimbrel tonight, he's probably unavailable. Maybe, but he had 2 days off before throwing 30 pitches last night, and had 2 days off before throwing 33 the last appearance. He pitched on May 31 after throwing 27 the day before, so my guess is he's available tonight.
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Post by bluechip on Jun 7, 2017 9:46:20 GMT -5
Maybe, but a close game against the Yankees, is not the time to do it. What about in the sixth inning of game that they were leading by three runs? Leaving the Yankee paranoia out of this, it was absolutely the right time to push Scott a little bit. He needed a lot of outs from his bullpen and the Yankee lineup was RHH, SH, LHH, SH. He induced three straight grounders, two of them very soft, resulting in two outs and one run. Then Farrell let him face another switch hitter because any major league pitcher should be able to get Chase Headley out right now. With a one-run lead it's a tougher call, but if the bullpen needs to get 12 outs then the chances are pretty high that they're going to give up at least one run, and Farrell is going to get blamed for it no matter who the reliever is who lets it in. I echo this. Pomeranz put Farrell in a tough spot last night. No matter what happened a less than ideal pitcher was going pitch more than is ideal.
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Post by jmei on Jun 7, 2017 9:50:47 GMT -5
Maybe, but a close game against the Yankees, is not the time to do it. What about in the sixth inning of game that they were leading by three runs? Leaving the Yankee paranoia out of this, it was absolutely the right time to push Scott a little bit. He needed a lot of outs from his bullpen and the Yankee lineup was RHH, SH, LHH, SH. He induced three straight grounders, two of them very soft, resulting in two outs and one run. Then Farrell let him face another switch hitter because any major league pitcher should be able to get Chase Headley out right now. With a one-run lead it's a tougher call, but if the bullpen needs to get 12 outs then the chances are pretty high that they're going to give up at least one run, and Farrell is going to get blamed for it no matter who the reliever is who lets it in. The leverage index when Scott entered the game was 1.54, which is higher than his average leverage index this year of 1.10. That doesn't take into account that the game was against a division rival and the Red Sox had a rested bullpen coming off a day off. If Farrell wants to start experimenting with Scott against RHP, there are much, much lower leverage situations he should have started with.
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