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Post by wskeleton76 on Jul 3, 2017 21:15:09 GMT -5
Pedroia! Yeah!
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jul 3, 2017 21:16:45 GMT -5
Nice work by Pedroia.
Just thinking out loud, I wonder if there is any talk in the organization about putting a "C" on his jersey and formally naming him team captain? I sorta recall that after Tek retired there was discussion that it would not be a regular thing going forward. My own opinion is that he's the kind of player you give that designation to if you are going use that designation.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 3, 2017 21:17:48 GMT -5
And.....somehow Porcello is spinning a 2 hitter. He is laboring a bit - lots of pitches - but this is a really encouraging start for him .
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 3, 2017 21:19:11 GMT -5
Nice work by Pedroia. Just thinking out loud, I wonder if there is any talk in the organization about putting a "C" on his jersey and formally naming him team captain? I sorta recall that after Tek retired there was discussion that it would not be a regular thing going forward. My own opinion is that he's the kind of player you give that designation to if you are going use that designation. It is an interesting thought and has credibility, IMO. It has been so rare, it usually isn't discussed.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 21:19:40 GMT -5
Nice work by Pedroia. Just thinking out loud, I wonder if there is any talk in the organization about putting a "C" on his jersey and formally naming him team captain? I sorta recall that after Tek retired there was discussion that it would not be a regular thing going forward. My own opinion is that he's the kind of player you give that designation to if you are going use that designation. It's pretty meaningless IMO. You don't need a C to be the leader and a C is not going to make you a leader if you're not. It's not like hockey where if you have the C, you're the only one allowed to talk to the refs.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 3, 2017 21:23:35 GMT -5
Now for something completely different - I have to admit that I am loving Eck doing the games.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jul 3, 2017 21:25:28 GMT -5
Nice work by Pedroia. Just thinking out loud, I wonder if there is any talk in the organization about putting a "C" on his jersey and formally naming him team captain? I sorta recall that after Tek retired there was discussion that it would not be a regular thing going forward. My own opinion is that he's the kind of player you give that designation to if you are going use that designation. It is an interesting thought and has credibility, IMO. It has been so rare, it usually isn't discussed. I just looked it up. Going back to the 1920's it's only been Tek, Rice, Yaz, and Foxx.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 3, 2017 21:29:24 GMT -5
It is an interesting thought and has credibility, IMO. It has been so rare, it usually isn't discussed. I just looked it up. Going back to the 1920's it's only been Tek, Rice, Yaz, and Foxx. Yeah. As JimEd pointed out, it has no functional purpose. It is largely ceremonial, and the player may not want either.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 21:33:11 GMT -5
And.....somehow Porcello is spinning a 2 hitter. He is laboring a bit - lots of pitches - but this is a really encouraging start for him . I actually heard him say BABIP yesterday. I know he's not one for advanced stats, but at least he's trying unlike every other Red Sox broadcaster ever.
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Post by cheers on Jul 3, 2017 21:35:26 GMT -5
Guessing I'm racing others who are more astute to type this, but why on earth would you run Porcello out there for the 7th?
His stat line looks great, but I think his relative success tonight is more a function of pretty horrendous plate discipline on the part of the Rangers.
BOOM. Like I could see the future
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 21:37:05 GMT -5
Gallo has 28 HR in 433 major league plate appearances and is a below average hitter overall with a 94 wRC+. That takes something special, like a 42.5% career k-rate.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 21:39:41 GMT -5
Guessing I'm racing others who are more astute to type this, but why on earth would you run Porcello out there for the 7th? His stat line looks great, but I think his relative success tonight is more a function of pretty horrendous plate discipline on the part of the Rangers. BOOM. Like I could see the future Even though it didn't work out great, I actually wasn't against it, because he still had 4 batters that had only faced him twice. And the Red Sox bullpen isn't quite as deep as we'd like. It's not like Hembree or Barnes or whoever else was going to absolutely be more effective than Porcello was.
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Post by cheers on Jul 3, 2017 21:41:20 GMT -5
Guessing I'm racing others who are more astute to type this, but why on earth would you run Porcello out there for the 7th? His stat line looks great, but I think his relative success tonight is more a function of pretty horrendous plate discipline on the part of the Rangers. BOOM. Like I could see the future Even though it didn't work out great, I actually wasn't against it, because he still had 4 batters that had only faced him twice. And the Red Sox bullpen isn't quite as deep as we'd like. It's not like Hembree or Barnes or whoever else was going to absolutely be more effective than Porcello was. No argument there. The 7th inning makes me nervous, like everybody else.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 3, 2017 21:42:37 GMT -5
I am also fine with Porcello coming back out - only two hits given up, Napoli leading off, and a long road trip where you want to preserve arms. Shame about that last HR - ERA still above 5.
Now let's see what this new and improved Barnes has.
Looked fine - losing the big leg kick seems to be a plus for his control
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 21:45:50 GMT -5
I really hate watching 3 true outcome batters hit. I'm glad we don't have any of those, even if they're useful in today's game. It's just not fun to watch for me.
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Post by okin15 on Jul 3, 2017 21:50:59 GMT -5
Nice work by Pedroia. Just thinking out loud, I wonder if there is any talk in the organization about putting a "C" on his jersey and formally naming him team captain? I sorta recall that after Tek retired there was discussion that it would not be a regular thing going forward. My own opinion is that he's the kind of player you give that designation to if you are going use that designation. It's pretty meaningless IMO. You don't need a C to be the leader and a C is not going to make you a leader if you're not. It's not like hockey where if you have the C, you're the only one allowed to talk to the refs. I love Pedey; I think he's my favorite Sox player ever. But I don't think he's really the guy you put the C on. You don't want your entire team to be just like him. He almost plays the game too hard. Tek was such a great balance between emotion, leadership, steadiness and excellence. You can imagine Pedey being at least sullen if not playing, while Tek took it in stride as he aged. I wouldn't be upset if he were named captain, but I don't think he's the perfect candidate. And yes, Eck is amazing. Semi-related, I agree Price was off-base to call him out the other day on the plane, but I don't really hold it against Price either. The media get so sensitive when someone gets snippy with them. I don't know why they think the fans care. I DO care if he causes the clubhouse to be overly sensitive, or gets everyone riled up, but I just generally don't care much if he upsets the reporters as long as he pitches well. The whole thing makes me question some of what we read after a player leaves the team (Nomar, etc.)
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Post by radiohix on Jul 3, 2017 21:53:40 GMT -5
Grilli, You gotta chill bro!
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 21:55:34 GMT -5
Grilli, You gotta chill bro! He seems like too good of a pitcher to be so easily obtained by any team who wants him.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 3, 2017 21:55:45 GMT -5
Throw strikes Robby.
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Post by cheers on Jul 3, 2017 21:58:02 GMT -5
what seems like a huge statistical anomaly: Joe Kelly throws 102, has a 6.42 K/9 rate, an 8/5 K/BB rate, and hasn't allowed a HR in 33.2 innings of work.
At least one of those things makes no sense. Since I can quantify 102, it has to be one of the others. Hard to tell which. Love that we have 2017 Kimbrel to back it up if I become suddenly horrified.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 21:59:02 GMT -5
*sigh*
Is there anything more annoying than LOOGYs not getting LHB out? I guess LOOGYs walking LHB is worse.
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Post by station13 on Jul 3, 2017 22:00:57 GMT -5
*sigh* Is there anything more annoying than LOOGYs not getting LHB out? I guess LOOGYs walking LHB is worse. Both drives me crazy because it happens too often.
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Post by braziliansox on Jul 3, 2017 22:02:07 GMT -5
*sigh* Is there anything more annoying than LOOGYs not getting LHB out? I guess LOOGYs walking LHB is worse. You just gave me Tommy Layne memories.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 22:02:36 GMT -5
what seems like a huge statistical anomaly: Joe Kelly throws 102, has a 6.42 K/9 rate, an 8/5 K/BB rate, and hasn't allowed a HR in 33.2 innings of work. At least one of those things makes no sense. Since I can quantify 102, it has to be one of the others. Hard to tell which. Love that we have 2017 Kimbrel to back it up if I become suddenly horrified. He has a 1.07 ERA and 3.95 xFIP this year. He's one of the hardest pitchers to figure out I've ever seen.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 22:03:52 GMT -5
*sigh* Is there anything more annoying than LOOGYs not getting LHB out? I guess LOOGYs walking LHB is worse. Both drives me crazy because it happens too often. I know he does pretty incredible usually vs. LHB, but there's a fine line between incredible and not worth having on the roster. That goes for every LOOGY. I have no idea why we still have two of them.
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