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8/11-8/13 Red Sox @ Yankees Series Thread
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 11, 2017 8:50:29 GMT -5
8/11 Red Sox (LHP Eduardo Rodriguez 4-3, 4.08, 81.2 IP, 89K:32BB) @ Yankees (LHP Jaime Garcia* 5-8, 4.49, 124.1 IP, 96K:48) 7:05 pm ET NESN/MLBN**/WEEI 8/12 Red Sox (LHP Drew Pomeranz 11-4, 3.36, 120.2 IP, 127K:45BB) @ Yankees (RHP Luis Severino 9-4, 2.91, 139.1 IP, 162K:36BB) 4:05 pm ET, NESN/FS1/WEEI 8/13 Red Sox (LHP Chris Sale 14-4, 2.57, 161.1 IP, 229K:29BB) @ Yankees (LHP Jordan Montgomery 7-6, 4.05, 102.1 IP, 80K:38BB) 8:00 pm ET, ESPN/WEEI *Includes stats with Atlanta and Minnesota
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 11, 2017 8:52:16 GMT -5
Montgomery is taking the spot of C.C. Sabathia, who came out of Tuesday's start with a knee injury and is probably going on the DL.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 11, 2017 8:58:38 GMT -5
Been waiting to see Devers play at Yankee stadium. He could probably sneeze and hit the ball to the second deck in the RF homerun bleachers.
The Sox should win games one and three. They have a puncher's chance in game two. Settle for at least one win on the road. Try to stomp on the throat and win two or sweep however.
That Sale guy is probably the difference of the Sox being a .500 team this year versus where they are now. I hope he shows why the Sox are a true contender with the last 3 months of baseball here with a pennant on the line.
Haven't been this pumped for a Yankee series in a long long time.
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Post by jrffam05 on Aug 11, 2017 9:00:08 GMT -5
Red Sox Bomaye!
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 11, 2017 9:03:32 GMT -5
I expect to be 7.5 games up by Sunday.
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Post by gerry on Aug 11, 2017 9:19:18 GMT -5
I expect to be 7.5 games up by Sunday. Now we need a reverse jinx.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 11, 2017 9:23:15 GMT -5
They really couldn't just pitch Montgomery on Saturday so we could have Sale/Severino on Sunday night baseball, huh? Man, I hate the Yankees.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 11, 2017 9:32:33 GMT -5
This is a must win series for the Yankees. We have a chance to bury them. I like it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 11, 2017 9:41:09 GMT -5
They really couldn't just pitch Montgomery on Saturday so we could have Sale/Severino on Sunday night baseball, huh? Man, I hate the Yankees. Chris, you could of just said that you hated the Yankees without a explanation. It would of worked out just as well. ;-)
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Aug 11, 2017 9:44:26 GMT -5
We do NOT have a chance to bury them now.
Back in 1978 we had a 2-game series against the Yankees with, I think, either a 6 or 7 game lead going in. We swept the series. And we all know how that turned out.
Just don't get swept this weekend. Other than that, the series isn't ALL that important. We still have to play solid baseball against all the other teams on the schedule.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 11, 2017 10:06:14 GMT -5
We do NOT have a chance to bury them now. Back in 1978 we had a 2-game series against the Yankees with, I think, either a 6 or 7 game lead going in. We swept the series. And we all know how that turned out. Just don't get swept this weekend. Other than that, the series isn't ALL that important. We still have to play solid baseball against all the other teams on the schedule. I don't think most here are concerned about past history although I think your point that even a good result doesn't guarantee anything is over is a valid point. The fact is they have 10 games against NY in 24 days, not just these 3. It's funny - people are always quoting odds of this or that and it makes sense, but the memory tends to remember the outliers. Like I remember reading on SOSH how it was impossible for the Sox to lose in 2011 (just like it was impossible to blow a 14 game lead in July 1978), but watching them, it wasn't really that hard to believe. You just never really know even if you think you know, which is what I do all the time. An aside, the 2007 Red Sox nearly blew a 14 game lead over the Yankees as well, but when it got to late Sept and the Yanks got to within 1.5 both managers, Francona and Torre called off the dogs, started resting regulars, playing with less urgency, etc, because both teams knew they were going to the post-season, the difference between 1978, the playoff system where a wild card was guaranteed at least the division series, versus today's playoff system where the dual wild cards make the post-season a nervous 50-50 proposition. Looking at the matchups the Sox should win 2 of 3, but things never really work out the way you'd expect them to. The Sox need to hit. If they don't they're in trouble. The Yankees are throwing two questionable lefties against them, but it wouldn't be the first time this team failed to hit when expected to, so we'll see. Honestly, the Yankees are the only team that really concerns me in the AL. The Sox have not played them well head-to-head, and until I see the Sox really handle the Yankees, I'll hope that the Sox don't have to face them in the post-season. I don't buy Houston's pitching, especially if Keuschel and McCullers aren't right, and Cleveland - I think the Sox have a decent chance. Last year the Sox were expected to crush a decimated Cleveland team and everything that could have went wrong went wrong. It's hard to think that could happen two years in a row, but who knows? Maybe the Dodgers will get all their wins out of the way in the regular season? And I'm with you, just don't get swept (2 of 3 would be wonderful), and if you're going to lose, please don't make it one where a win gets turned into a gut wrenching loss.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2017 10:41:47 GMT -5
I hate these guys. Win em all.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 11, 2017 10:45:37 GMT -5
Christopher SmithVerified account @smittyonmlb 2h2 hours ago
Yankees C Gary Sanchez leads the league with 12 passed balls. Five of them have come in his past 15 games since July 21. Something to watch. . . . Christopher SmithVerified account @smittyonmlb 2h2 hours ago
Aaron Judge in second half: .172/.336/.356/.693, 5 HRs, 12 RBIs, 1 2B, 22 BB, 40 Ks, 25 games (110 plate appearances).
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 11, 2017 11:01:11 GMT -5
...in that second half, 61% of the PAs have resulted in one of the three true outcomes. He seems to be trending that way but it's still early. The first half was so outrageous that he's still around 170 OPS+, but he's going to have to adjust to the way pitchers are attacking him from here on out.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 11, 2017 11:17:40 GMT -5
...in that second half, 61% of the PAs have resulted in one of the three true outcomes. He seems to be trending that way but it's still early. The first half was so outrageous that he's still around 170 OPS+, but he's going to have to adjust to the way pitchers are attacking him from here on out. So glad that it appears that the Red Sox exposed him with that first series after the All Star break. Some will blame the HR Derby, but I don't know if I believe it.
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Post by kman22 on Aug 11, 2017 11:42:19 GMT -5
Saw on Sportscenter last night that Judge has struck out in a franchise record 27 straight games.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 11, 2017 12:05:38 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see how the Yankees pitch Devers in Yankee Stadium. Will they dare go inside where it looks like there's a little more swing and miss so far (very small sample)? or will they stay outside where he has killed the ball to the opposite field?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 11, 2017 12:11:18 GMT -5
Rob BradfordVerified account @bradfo 10m10 minutes ago
Brandon Workman: 'I feel a lot better about how I'm throwing the ball than I ever have in my life.'
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Post by jimoh on Aug 11, 2017 12:49:24 GMT -5
Mentioning the 78 collapse offers a great chance to mention the difference between this team and that. That squad had great position players, but was built around them playing every day, and they got tired. Our strong bench has recently allowed most guys to get a day or two off, with immediate and probably also long-term benefits. And there are guys in AAA that could help in September.
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Post by station13 on Aug 11, 2017 12:53:08 GMT -5
In the red sox 8 wins streak, Abad got in 1 game to record 1 out. Can they find him some DL excuse to make a better use of the roster?
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 11, 2017 13:00:11 GMT -5
Mentioning the 78 collapse offers a great chance to mention the difference between this team and that. That squad had great position players, but was built around them playing every day, and they got tired. Our strong bench has recently allowed most guys to get a day or two off, with immediate and probably also long-term benefits. And there are guys in AAA that could help in September. Fisk caught 157 games that year.
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Post by michael on Aug 11, 2017 13:00:42 GMT -5
In the red sox 8 wins streak, Abad got in 1 game to record 1 out. Can they find him some DL excuse to make a better use of the roster? "But who would we have used to get that one out?" Lou Gorman
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Post by marrcus on Aug 11, 2017 13:07:40 GMT -5
Anything can happen this weekend so I start with an attitude that they have to win one and hope for two. Three I don't think about either way. Erod tonight will be at 100p by the fourth. You can survive the high pitch counts and walks if you don't give up any bombs?
RS RHH lineup? If Hanley was healthy and X mashing I'd be a little more optimistic.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 11, 2017 15:13:34 GMT -5
Some Yankee notes ...
Hicks came off the DL yesterday. He's always hit LHP better than RHP. So the question is whether Gardner is in LF and Hicks in CF, or Hicks in LF and Ellsbury in CF. Ellsbury hasn't hit since mid-May, and even though he's just had his first 2 multi-hit games since then, he's still .217 / .280 / .348 in those 7 games / 25 PA. Gardner's had a much better season but is .191 / .283 / .213 in his last 11 G / 53 PA.
Wow. All minor league player data is currently inaccessible at B-Ref. The links to minor league stats have all disappeared from MLB player pages, and searching for a minor league player gives the error "the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete." (And the TV I was going to watch Sunday's game on, a 2 year-old Sony, is broken (I'm in FL helping my Mom and will have to watch tonight and tomorrow on my phone), and I just spent the previous 2 hours troubleshooting it. What's with karma today?)
So, what was Garrett Cooper doing in AAA before Matt Holiday went on the DL, they called Cooper up, and he went 8/12, 2 2B, SF, 1 SO in his three games since? (With 6 LD in 12 contacts). milb.com has it: 0/7 in 2 G.
Gregorius is .398 / .401 / .711 since July 18 (21 G, 88 PA).
Headley is .338 / .405 / .523 since July 20 (20 G, 74 PA) but has a 694 OPS in August. He's having an awful year from the right side.
Oh, and this guy Judge is struggling a bit.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 11, 2017 15:15:51 GMT -5
Pedroia out again. If he's this banged up they should put him back on the DL and call up Lin, Brentz or...well, someone.
Eduardo Nunez 2B
Mookie Betts RF
Andrew Benintendi LF
Hanley Ramirez 1B
Chris Young DH
Xander Bogaerts SS
Rafael Devers 3B
Christian Vazquez C
Jackie Bradley Jr. CF
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