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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 17, 2017 19:19:15 GMT -5
Hinch is a complete tool.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 17, 2017 19:25:15 GMT -5
Giles is overated garbage.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 17, 2017 19:26:26 GMT -5
What a soft team the Astros are. Just a bunch of losers.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 17, 2017 19:27:09 GMT -5
Nice choke job Astro’s.
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Post by aznpopsical on Oct 17, 2017 19:30:38 GMT -5
Baby bloopers getting it done, gotta give credit to them, albeit reluctantly. Now the real Houston offense please stand up for the rest of the series, please?
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Post by aznpopsical on Oct 17, 2017 19:39:40 GMT -5
Bregman is really an excellent baseball player
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 17, 2017 19:46:33 GMT -5
What a soft team the Astros are. Just a bunch of losers. Well for a bunch of losers they sure won a lot of games during the season and they defeated the Sox so what does that make Boston....by your definition?
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Post by cutz on Oct 17, 2017 19:53:43 GMT -5
Not looking good for the Astros? They haven't hit at all in the 4 games. What's up with that? "IF" Keuchel & Verlander lose a game, the Astros are probably in trouble?
Just glad i didn't watch this game either.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 17, 2017 20:30:07 GMT -5
What an awful bullpen the Astros have. That's one of the things that concerns me in this series. They need to swing the bats and have two masterful performances by Keuchel and Verlander. If they don't, they're in big trouble.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 17, 2017 21:05:15 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 17, 2017 22:09:31 GMT -5
There should be a rule where you cannot visit the mound when the pitcher is up. The catcher went out twice during Darvish's AB in the 6th with the bases loaded, then the pitching coach came out. And then he walked him to drive in a run.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 17, 2017 22:13:14 GMT -5
Jimed I agree with you a lot of times but opining that some 'deep state' Yankee bias, not talent, is why they have won, is a jaundiced view of man that I can't countenance. It flies in the face of their accomplishments.They hit 241 home runs this year...73 more than the Sox. Barring injury with Judge, Sanchez and Bird, they might get 110 from those 3 alone next year. You would agree that Houston is the majors' best offensive team?! Yet they have scored 5 runs total in 3 1/2 games. Severino has some of, if not the best stuff, Sabathia reinvented himself to a more powerful Moyer and Tanaka, with rest, has been dominant. They had the #1 bullpen in the A.L. They also have one of the best farm systems in baseball. Their future, barring events unseen, is that of a long term dominant team. I agree with redsox040713, false bravado and accusations of bias amount to IMO spitting into the wind. Post script....Houston scores 3 runs on 1 hit!!! A win tonight and worse case they need only win one at home. I did not say that that's the only reason why they win or won. I just think they get small advantages on a regular basis. And the Red Sox were still better than them. Credit to the Red Sox for hanging on to the division title this season. They really didn't have any business winning it, but the Yankees underachieved their runs scored/runs allowed ratio. The Yankees scored 858 runs to the Red Sox 785 and even allowed fewer runs than the Sox, although the difference was negligible. According to Baseball Reference the Sox should have finished 93-69 and that's exactly how they finished while the Yankees should have won 100 games but only won 91. I think Chapman's August meltdown and Betances' meltdown post-August helped contribute to that discrepancy. The Yankees are truly the better team this season despite not finishing in first, and they are hard to kill. They trailed the Twins by 3 and it could have been 5 in that playoff game if the Twins would have gone for the kill. They could have been done before they started and that would have made winning the division meaningful. Unfortunately, it was rendered a moot point and the Yankees are on their second 0-2 comeback of the post-season. There's no way in hell they'd win 5 plus titles in the next 10 years - for you to suggest that I really think that is utterly ridiculous. No team is capable of that in this day and age. The Yankees have a good shot at 2 or 3 over the next 10 years and being in the playoffs for perhaps 8 of those years. Somehow the Yankees have managed to rebuild without having to totally suck, as they haven't had a losing record in about 25 years, and they have yet to really reap the benefits of those two fantastic deals they made, which brought C. Frazier and Torres into the organization. You can call it an inferiority complex, but I think the fact is they've been an extremely strong organization for a long time, even in this century (they've won about 58% of their games as opposed to 57% when they won almost all of their championships), where it's hard to consistently cut thru 3 layers or 4 with the Wild Card Play-in game to win the World Series year after year. Though with that kind of consistent excellency it's really not that big a stretch to think a team when they're really built to win can win 2 or 3 championships in a 10 year window. Theo had his hands on a Red Sox organization that managed to do that. I kind of expect the Yankees to start doing it soon, if not this year (I still think it's the Dodgers' year - LaSorda is going to celebrate). They're going to be good and they are going to get under the LT limit this upcoming season so they can spend big $ come 2018 - at this point I'd guess Harper and Keuchel would be their main targets? The Red Sox were supposed to be the team most likely to win the World Series during the 2016 - 2019 time frame, and they still could, but the window of opportunity is a big question mark beyond 2019. Hopefully the Sox fix the lineup, have better health, and get better starting pitching performances in the post-season next year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 17, 2017 22:30:44 GMT -5
I still think Houston wins. They couldn't be any worse offensively so far and they're tied in the series.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 17, 2017 22:34:54 GMT -5
Yuli Gurriel is a beast. There is a good reason why I wanted to trade Porcello for him this past trade deadline. I mean he's probably like the 8th best player in that lineup. All things considered (age, exp, salary, position), he's probably one of the last guys I would want from that team. Gurriel would arguably be this team's 2nd or 3rd best hitter right now.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 17, 2017 22:48:41 GMT -5
They just reran the Dave Roberts steal and score from 2004 during the Dodgers - Cubs game. Still gives me chills.
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Post by costpet on Oct 18, 2017 8:02:51 GMT -5
MFY win because they hit home runs. Sox lose because they can’t. End of story.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 18, 2017 8:55:45 GMT -5
MFY win because they hit home runs. Sox lose because they can’t. End of story. C'mon it's more complex than that. Scoring runs it what matters on offense, not hitting homeruns, and if the Red Sox had one of those offenses where they draw their walks, steal bases, hit .280 plus as a team, whack 350 plus doubles, they would have been on the Astros/Yankees level of offense, but they weren't that great at hitting, and didn't exactly have their greatest double hitting team of all-time. They flat out didn't hit well. I believe the team BA was under .260. They simply didn't hit, and in October, while the Yankees starters are doing a pretty good job by and large, the Red Sox starters completely pooped out and Kimbrel picked the worst time to be at his worst. And the hitters didn't hit in the first two games and didn't cash in crucial opportunities that they needed to in the 4th game. The lack of power usually makes for a more inefficient offense, and the Sox did suffer from that in their series with Houston. In actuality the Red Sox won more games than the Yankees during the season, which also makes me question Girardi's managing a bit, but when it has counted the most the Yankees have continued to play well while the Red Sox had only 1 win left in them.
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Post by patford on Oct 18, 2017 9:02:26 GMT -5
There should be a rule where you cannot visit the mound when the pitcher is up. The catcher went out twice during Darvish's AB in the 6th with the bases loaded, then the pitching coach came out. And then he walked him to drive in a run. There should be a rule where the Yankees do not have a different strike zone than the opposing team. This will only be cured when the league adopts an electronic system to call balls and strikes.
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Post by bosox81 on Oct 18, 2017 9:03:46 GMT -5
MFY win because they hit home runs. Sox lose because they can’t. End of story.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 18, 2017 10:57:50 GMT -5
There should be a rule where you cannot visit the mound when the pitcher is up. The catcher went out twice during Darvish's AB in the 6th with the bases loaded, then the pitching coach came out. And then he walked him to drive in a run. There should be a rule where the Yankees do not have a different strike zone than the opposing team. This will only be cured when the league adopts an electronic system to call balls and strikes. Ok....and while we're at it let's go after the NFL and refs for favoring the N.Y. Giants who beat the Patriots twice for the Super Bowl (yeah right!)...they got all the breaks including that phony Helmut catch....New York bias.....and...and...any championship team that beats the Celtics as everyone knows that the league is biased against and jealous of Boston because of all those banners. The refs in all those sports have been issued an edict...everyone knows these things! Am I right?
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Post by trajanacc on Oct 18, 2017 11:18:52 GMT -5
Duh, everyone knows whichever team you don't like always gets all the calls.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 18, 2017 11:44:16 GMT -5
There should be a rule where the Yankees do not have a different strike zone than the opposing team. This will only be cured when the league adopts an electronic system to call balls and strikes. Ok....and while we're at it let's go after the NFL and refs for favoring the N.Y. Giants who beat the Patriots twice for the Super Bowl (yeah right!)...they got all the breaks including that phony Helmut catch....New York bias.....and...and...any championship team that beats the Celtics as everyone knows that the league is biased against and jealous of Boston because of all those banners. The refs in all those sports have been issued an edict...everyone knows these things! Am I right? This gets seven out of ten Heinsohns.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 18, 2017 12:04:46 GMT -5
James I was kidding here as you might know but from my mobile can't use italics.
The comment above yours is absolutely correct. I hate it when fans suggest cheating or game bias. That's the last resort and sour grapes. I prefer to believe that games are called as honestly as possible. I have a higher opinion of humanity. ☺️
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 18, 2017 12:18:02 GMT -5
James I was kidding here as you might know but from my mobile can't use italics. The comment above yours is absolutely correct. I hate it when fans suggest cheating or game bias. That's the last resort and sour grapes. I prefer to believe that games are called as honestly as possible. I have a higher opinion of humanity. ☺️ Haha, oh I know you were kidding. You got a 7/10 Heinsohn for solid execution. To get a full 10/10 you need to work in a complaint about Dwyane Wade carrying the ball.
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Post by jdb on Oct 18, 2017 14:05:35 GMT -5
Got to admit I saw that meltdown from the Astros pen from a mile away. They've been dry humped for months.
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