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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 19:38:48 GMT -5
Starting a new thread here for rookies veterans and moderators. If you have a crazy trade proposal, interesting info on a Red Sox prospect, looking for something beyond the scouting reports. Or just pent up slow moving off-season, below zero temps or spring training is more than a month away. This is the thread for you.
If what whatever ails you brings you to the Sox Prospects site. Believe me this is a great place to land. It may not bring back Big Papi but a lot of good and knowledgeable people are on this site. Come enjoy and support.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jan 2, 2018 20:14:57 GMT -5
Starting a new thread here for rookies veterans and moderators. If you have a crazy trade proposal, interesting info on a Red Sox prospect, looking for something beyond the scouting reports . Or just pent up slow moving off-season, below zero temps or spring training is more than a month away. This is the thread for you. If what whatever ails you brings you to the Sox Prospects site. Believe me this is a great place to land. It may not bring back Big Papi but a lot of good and knowledgeable people are on this site. Come enjoy and support. yes.......yes......and yes. Pitchers and catchers....please. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 20:30:35 GMT -5
Pitchers+catchers report February 14th. So...If my math is right and carry the one. 43 days spring training
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 2, 2018 21:01:34 GMT -5
Was just thinking about adding this comment but didn't know where it would go.
I find it therapeutic to think all 4 Boston teams are capable of winning a championship in the next 3 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 21:36:52 GMT -5
Celtics get a playoff like test tomorrow night against the Cavaliers and Isiah Thomas. The baby Bruins are shaping into a high caliber team. And then there's the Patriots. Belichick always finds a way. And as soon as the Red Sox and Dombrowski make a deal with the devil (Boras) or Moustakas on a one year deal we start uo the duck boats
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 2, 2018 22:51:41 GMT -5
Question, since I don't follow basketball anymore. Is Isaiah Thomas son of the former Pistons guard of the same name ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 23:27:40 GMT -5
No. Isaiah's dad's name is James.But James DID name him after the 4x time NBA Champion point guard of the Detroit Pistons.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 2, 2018 23:31:19 GMT -5
Ah OK thanks, I was curious if that was the case.
ADD since it's equally irrelevant, I saw a quote the other day that I thought was cool.
Pat Riley: "I'd want Jordan to take the shot with the game on the line. I'd want Bird to take it if my LIFE was on the line."
and since Isiah was the topic:
Isiah Thomas: "if you locked me, Michael, Magic and Larry in a room----I think Larry is the one who makes it out".
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Post by mobaz on Jan 3, 2018 8:46:02 GMT -5
Red Sox sign Ivan DeJesus Jr to a minor league deal. He played the 2017 season in the Milwaukee Brewers system. He played in 112 games had 412ab 7hr 65rbi .345ave .407obp with the Colorado Sky Sox It's ALL HAPPENING! THE MOVE THAT WILL PUT US OVER THE TOP!!! Using the venting thread as intended. I think baseball has a major problem in the buzz department. In NFL and NBA, the first few days of free agency are amazing. I have Schefter and Rappaport on constant refresh during NFL FA, then Woj/Stein/Shams for NBA. It's an EVENT for the fans, as well as quickly re-shaping the leagues. The NBA shockingly leveraged itself into a year-round sport. Between playoffs tricking into summer, draft lottery providing hope to loser teams, the best draft experience in sports, free agency providing huge-impact player movement, summer league to see the youngin's get their careers started, etc. Baseball has a long season, where one player doesn't move the needle much, drafted players take years to pass/fail, and free agency is a slow burn. The trade deadline is the most exciting (though NBA is creeping closer), and I like seeing earlier trades happening within the season, but I wish baseball could create a broader buzz other than opening day, trade deadline, and playoffs. All Star Game has lost its luster, there's no Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years Day experience like NFL/NBA/NHL to look forward to. Fantasy Baseball has taken a huge back seat to Fantasy Football, which seems to keep casual fans interested in NFL I wish the WBC had provided that notable buzz, but the schedule made it a huge challenge and it never took off nationally like it could have. ADD: MLB does have MLBAM going for it. It's the best experience for watching games out-of-network (helps a DC resident wishing he could see more Sox/Pats/Celts games), and excellent highlight and game summary videos. However, baseball isn't as "gif-able" as other sports, where the action is captured better in shorter bursts (amazing catches being the exception), which kind of holds back the daily "did you see that?" factor. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 3, 2018 9:27:05 GMT -5
It's January 3 and the Red Sox still haven't signed a minor league free agent journeyman pitcher for me to talk myself into amid glowing Speier articles about him adding a cutter after working with Bannister.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 10:56:10 GMT -5
I understand what WAR stands for wins above replacement. But what does this stat stand for? How does it benefit the game?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 11:10:01 GMT -5
It's January 3 and the Red Sox still haven't signed a minor league free agent journeyman pitcher for me to talk myself into amid glowing Speier articles about him adding a cutter after working with Bannister. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 11:11:01 GMT -5
Is this mystery player on the 40 man roster
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 3, 2018 11:19:02 GMT -5
Is this mystery player on the 40 man roster Haha, I like your thinking. I'd generally put that into more of either the "Best Shape of His Life" or "Renewed Commitment to Baseball" tropes. I'm talking more of the journeyman wasting away in another organization(s) who the Red Sox identified that fixable something in his delivery and now he's going to be an Impact Pitcher. EDIT: It kind of has to be an out-of-the-org guy because the story has to have the element of "the Red Sox identify something else that nobody else could." |
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 3, 2018 11:25:10 GMT -5
I understand what WAR stands for wins above replacement. But what does this stat stand for? How does it benefit the game? Theoretically, that player adds his WAR to the teams's win totals over a full season if he played instead of a replacement level player. Replacement level players are mediocre, yet serviceable major league players like a Sam Travis type. So if a team would be 81-81 with Sam Travis who gets 0.0 WAR for the season, if you replaced him with Joey Votto who got 6.0 WAR for a full season, the same team would end up 87-75 instead. |
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 3, 2018 11:40:53 GMT -5
Isnt the second part of that statement where WAR falls apart? Because for it to be true, we could add together all WAR in baseball and get a sum of 0.0 WAR, which I doubt is true.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 11:45:14 GMT -5
So if the Red Sox sign JDM with his 4.1WAR. He would be one win below replacing David Ortiz with his 2016 5.1WAR ?
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 3, 2018 11:54:37 GMT -5
Isnt the second part of that statement where WAR falls apart? Because for it to be true, we could add together all WAR in baseball and get a sum of 0.0 WAR, which I doubt is true. No, because replacement level players are not average major league players. I don't remember the exact calculation, but a team full of replacement level players should be around 50-110 or somewhere close to that. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 3, 2018 12:18:26 GMT -5
Isnt the second part of that statement where WAR falls apart? Because for it to be true, we could add together all WAR in baseball and get a sum of 0.0 WAR, which I doubt is true. No, because replacement level players are not average major league players. I don't remember the exact calculation, but a team full of replacement level players should be around 50-110 or somewhere close to that. Yeah jimed was just throwing out 81-81. It's not calculated assuming the 0.0 WAR team goes 81-81. Also, different sites calculate WAR differently, including what their definition of "replacement player" is. BP's Stolen Signs podcast brought together the various folks who do WAR for BP, FG, BRef, and something I'd never heard of previously called openWAR. It's not really beginner level though, necessarily, and it can be kind of a tough listen in parts, but it does give some background on how each site does replacement level and positional adjustments, and they discuss degrees of certainty in the statistic. sabr.org/latest/stolen-signs-podcast-wins-above-replacement-discussion |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 3, 2018 12:41:53 GMT -5
Glass half full Chris Tillman is the mystery pitcher, Glass half empty Jamie Moyer makes a comeback, saying if Palmeiro can do it, so can I.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 17:11:22 GMT -5
These may glass totally empty veteran retreads.
Derek Holland
Jake Peavy
Clay Buchholz
Hector Santiago
Miguel Gonzalez
But maybe Bannister can work his magic on one of pitchers like he did with Rich Hill
EDIT. I know. Buchholz?!?! But it is a slow off season
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 3, 2018 17:18:45 GMT -5
I'd love to get Buchholz back on a minor league deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 17:35:02 GMT -5
It seemed that he was fan favorite when he was traded to Philadelphia. I read his major league career started with a no hitter and looked like he was on his way to a bright future. But a story of his child falling asleep on his pitching arm led to a long DL stint and never really rebounded. But if he could find the focus and desire. Maybe
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Post by jackiebradleyjrjr on Jan 3, 2018 17:43:28 GMT -5
It seemed that he was fan favorite when he was traded to Philadelphia. I read his major league career started with a no hitter and looked like he was on his way to a bright future. But a story of his child falling asleep on his pitching arm led to a long DL stint and never really rebounded. But if he could find the focus and desire. Maybe If he could find a massive quantity of adamantium and inject himself with it. Maybe. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 3, 2018 17:58:56 GMT -5
These may glass totally empty veteran retreads. Derek Holland Jake Peavy Clay Buchholz Hector Santiago Miguel Gonzalez But maybe Bannister can work his magic on one of pitchers like he did with Rich Hill EDIT. I know. Buchholz?!?! But it is a slow off season He's what maybe looking at middle to late in the year as a return date? I would love giving Buchholz a two years deal. Heck I wouldn't mind most of the guys you posted, but Buchholz makes a ton of sense. If he returns 100% he was always good when healthy. His 2017 makes sense now, he finally stayed healthy but sucked for most of the year, but he really wasn't healthy. |
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