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Post by artfuldodger on Jan 15, 2018 13:40:51 GMT -5
Hopefully, the Kendrick deal would be a comp for Nunez to resign with the Red Sox.
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Post by Coreno on Jan 15, 2018 15:02:33 GMT -5
Howie Kendrick is not very good. He will turn 35 this summer. He isn't even a 2nd baseman anymore.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 15, 2018 15:43:12 GMT -5
Andrew McCutchen to the Giants. Solid move for them, might be contenders for that wild card spot now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 15, 2018 15:45:22 GMT -5
Andrew McCutchen to the Giants. Solid move for them, might be contenders for that wild card spot now. They still need a CF bad, but they look a lot better now. The Giants had the worst outfield in baseball before this trade.
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Post by 75tillnow on Jan 15, 2018 16:24:34 GMT -5
The question is whether Arizona will now be more inclined to offer JD a bigger, better contract. That, or (as I think more probable), they will up their offer to the Birds for Machado (who they are apparently still tracking). If the latter, and they do it soon, who is left for JD? Toronto?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 15, 2018 16:26:25 GMT -5
The question is whether Arizona will now be more inclined to offer JD a bigger, better contract. That, or (as I think more probable), they will up their offer to the Birds for Machado (who they are apparently still tracking). If the latter, and they do it soon, who is left for JD? Toronto? Assuming SF doesn't play McCutchen in CF then they're probably out of the JDM sweepstakes so it's basically Arizona, the Sox, and maybe Toronto?
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Post by 75tillnow on Jan 15, 2018 16:32:07 GMT -5
There was a recent report (somewhere -- sorry I can't recall) that the Gmen will play McCutchen in left. Which makes sense. I still cannot wrap my head around an NL team giving JD 5 years -- the risk being too great that he simply will not be able to play the field in 2-3 years. But I've been wrong before. Alot. So...hoping...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 17:54:19 GMT -5
Pirates sign Felipe Rivero LHR to a 4-year extension including two option years.. Rivero had 21 saves in 2017.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 15, 2018 18:04:40 GMT -5
Wow, the Pirates got so very little for two of their best players.
They turned down Clint Frazier because they didn't like the rest of the trade package so instead of getting a valuable young cost controlled power hitter who can hit in the middle of their order, they opt for two relievers, one of whom struggled as a starter, a serviceable 3b prospect, and a potential backup OF.
So basically they trade for four nickels rather than one quarter.
Now with McCutchen, they get a middle reliever with control issues and an OF prospect in A ball who I don't think projects to anything particularly special.
I understand McCutchen only has 1 year left but if I were a Pirates fan I would be disappointed with the trade returns.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 18:28:20 GMT -5
Wow, the Pirates got so very little for two of their best players. They turned down Clint Frazier because they didn't like the rest of the trade package so instead of getting a valuable young cost controlled power hitter who can hit in the middle of their order, they opt for two relievers, one of whom struggled as a starter, a serviceable 3b prospect, and a potential backup OF. So basically they trade for four nickels rather than one quarter. Now with McCutchen, they get a middle reliever with control issues and an OF prospect in A ball who I don't think projects to anything particularly special. I understand McCutchen only has 1 year left but if I were a Pirates fan I would be disappointed with the trade returns. And Morosi is reporting that Pirates will pay a portion of McCutchen's 2018 contract.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jan 15, 2018 20:36:17 GMT -5
The Yankees appear to at least at some point have had better offers on the table for both Cole and McCutchen, and yet the Pirates went elsewhere on both. So strange, unless the Pirates just don't like Clint Frazier or Chance Adams whatsoever. This Pirates sell off is just so weird
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 15, 2018 21:08:49 GMT -5
The Yankees appear to at least at some point have had better offers on the table for both Cole and McCutchen, and yet the Pirates went elsewhere on both. So strange, unless the Pirates just don't like Clint Frazier or Chance Adams whatsoever. This Pirates sell off is just so weird I'm on the same page you are. If we believe the rumored packages, they either don't care for Frazier or don't see him as a fit. With the Astros package, it's not hard to see them liking Musgrove and thinking Moran's power surge is real and just preferring that package. But Frazier/plus seems like it should be more attractive than Crick/Reynolds. McCutchen getting out of center will be a plus for both him and the Giants.
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Post by 75tillnow on Jan 15, 2018 21:15:13 GMT -5
Toronto signs Granderson 1/5 wth incentives. That about does it re JD for them. So...Sox and Arizona?
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Post by mredsox89 on Jan 15, 2018 21:15:35 GMT -5
The Yankees appear to at least at some point have had better offers on the table for both Cole and McCutchen, and yet the Pirates went elsewhere on both. So strange, unless the Pirates just don't like Clint Frazier or Chance Adams whatsoever. This Pirates sell off is just so weird I'm on the same page you are. If we believe the rumored packages, they either don't care for Frazier or don't see him as a fit. With the Astros package, it's not hard to see them liking Musgrove and thinking Moran's power surge is real and just preferring that package. But Frazier/plus seems like it should be more attractive than Crick/Reynolds. McCutchen getting out of center will be a plus for both him and the Giants. And I'm thinking the only way the Yankees pull Frazier completely off the table is if they think a trade for Machado is relatively imminent, which for all we know could be the case. Really hoping that "when" the Yankees trade for Machado, they're forced to give up Torres and Frazier
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 15, 2018 21:26:49 GMT -5
Man, that would have been a great signing for us for us. Agreed. Nice insurance policy on Pedroia, cheaper than Nunez and a good trade chip if Lin Swihart or Marco develop. Eh, I wouldn't love giving him 2 years. 1 year, maybe, but I'm not sure I even like playing him over Marco Hernandez.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 15, 2018 21:40:57 GMT -5
Andrew McCutchen to the Giants. Solid move for them, might be contenders for that wild card spot now. Stronger contenders for the oldest roster in baseball though.
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Post by jmei on Jan 15, 2018 22:43:22 GMT -5
Over the last three years, Howie Kendrick has hit .284/.340/.408 (104 wRC+) over 1372 PAs and averaged 1.5 fWAR per year despite not being a full-time player. He's not much of a defensive second baseman anymore (although he does have the versatility to play 1B, 3B and corner outfield), and he's at an age where his performance could drop off a cliff. For $3.5M a year over two years, though, that's a steal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 9:03:15 GMT -5
Agreed. Nice insurance policy on Pedroia, cheaper than Nunez and a good trade chip if Lin Swihart or Marco develop. Eh, I wouldn't love giving him 2 years. 1 year, maybe, but I'm not sure I even like playing him over Marco Hernandez. I can see your point about Kendrick. But one of my first post was on the 2018 roster building thread. I wanted build a super bench that included Kendrick. At that time I was thinking 1/6m for him. But at 2/7m I would buy in on that deal
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 16, 2018 10:52:10 GMT -5
Over the last three years, Howie Kendrick has hit .284/.340/.408 (104 wRC+) over 1372 PAs and averaged 1.5 fWAR per year despite not being a full-time player. He's not much of a defensive second baseman anymore (although he does have the versatility to play 1B, 3B and corner outfield), and he's at an age where his performance could drop off a cliff. For $3.5M a year over two years, though, that's a steal. I'm sure it was all about the two years. With this deal, Kendrick will be at roughly $65 million in career earnings. If he wanted to really push that number significantly up, he'd have to take a one year deal this year, hope he has another big year at 36 next year, and then look for another one year deal going into his age 37 season. If everything went right, maybe he gets close to $20m over the two years rather than $7m. But he could also have a bad year, get traded (not that the Nats couldn't trade him but it seems less likely), end up somewhere he doesn't want to be, etc. I'd probably just take the two year deal from the good team too. He's from Florida so DC might be geographically appealing to him as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 10:14:22 GMT -5
Cubs resign LH relieverrian Duensing 2/7m. Source Ken Rosenthal
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 17, 2018 10:17:13 GMT -5
He's from Florida so DC might be geographically appealing to him as well. Certainly more appealing for winning than the teams located any closer to Florida.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 22:31:11 GMT -5
Tigers avoid arbitration with Jose Iglesias and sign him to a 6.275 million-dollar contract
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 18, 2018 18:35:26 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 19, 2018 1:29:50 GMT -5
Yasmni Thomas for arrested for going 105 mph yesterday. Needless to say, the D-Backs will probably be looking for an outfielder whether it's J.D. Martinez or not.
Cargo seems like a good fit there if I'm Mike Hazen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 8:10:20 GMT -5
Read a story this morning on Bleacher Reports about Anthony Gose a former outfielder with the Blue Jays and Tigers. Gose was selected by the Astros in December's Rule 5 draft as a left-handed pitcher. In in the story about break breakout Stars in 2018 ghost was noted to be throwing at 100mph+. He's definitely a long shot but also interesting.
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