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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 7, 2018 22:14:12 GMT -5
Wow - Brandon Maurer - 13 games this season, 10 IP, 19 hits, 15 earned runs, 9 BB - that will get ya an ERA of 12.66.
Ouch!
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 7, 2018 22:20:25 GMT -5
That win definitely takes a lot of pressure off for tomorrow. Great job Workman and Velasquez going into what we *thought* was a close game. Hopefully Kelly is ok.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 7, 2018 22:24:31 GMT -5
61-29. 32 games over .500. Wow.
+146 run differential. Only 4 ML teams - both leagues - are over +100 RD.
Awesome.
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Post by wildsox on Jul 7, 2018 22:25:25 GMT -5
Tough luck so far. It might be a matter of time before we get to Keller. Or it could just be one of those games It seems like one of those games. This turned into 15 runs
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 7, 2018 22:32:09 GMT -5
It seems like one of those games. This turned into 15 runs Yeah crazy. I guess KC is worse than we all thought.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 7, 2018 22:32:13 GMT -5
That win definitely takes a lot of pressure off for tomorrow. Great job Workman and Velasquez going into what we *thought* was a close game. Hopefully Kelly is ok. Gotta go for the jugular tomorrow with Porcello going and their pen is gassed. Hopefully we can pick up another game vs the yanks.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 7, 2018 22:40:35 GMT -5
Yeah crazy. I guess KC is worse than we all thought. I feel bad for the Royals and their fans. They're minors are as hopeless as their majors.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 7, 2018 22:43:29 GMT -5
Benny's OBP has gone up after this game after 6 times on base. LOL. his perfect 5000 OPS night went down with the double.
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Post by geostorm on Jul 7, 2018 22:46:09 GMT -5
So how many starts behind the plate will Swihart get, in the near term, until CV is back?
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Post by wildsox on Jul 7, 2018 23:04:05 GMT -5
I’ve seen enough of Vazquez for a while. Play Sandy everyday from now on Vazquez to the DL. Whoa. Didn’t think this would work out quite like this.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 7, 2018 23:06:55 GMT -5
So how many starts behind the plate will Swihart get, in the near term, until CV is back? I'm guessing he won't be back real soon. Fractured pinky on his throwing hand.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 7, 2018 23:15:02 GMT -5
The Sox just lost another trade chip in Swihart this deadline. They have to keep him now. It'll be interesting Cora finagle his way into putting Swihart behind the plate considering he doesn't trust him at all behind the dish.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 7, 2018 23:15:06 GMT -5
Joe Kelly just lightheaded....CV broken pinkie. Any news on JDM? - hopefully didn't break or hurt anything with the foul balls off of his feet, Joe C and Tim N on the radio broadcast were concerned.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 7, 2018 23:24:10 GMT -5
Upgrading the utility infielder slot is easy. Just call up Lin. No need to expend resources there. The bullpen does need some help. In the playoffs they'll need somebody beyond Kelly and Barnes to bridge the gap to Kimbrel. Kelly and Barnes are not guys I trust to go into Yankee Stadium and shut down the Yankees. The utility infielder isn't going to be a difference maker the way a high leverage relief arm is going to be in the post-season. You can't just throw Buttrey or whoever into the mix and expect instant high leverage success in the playoffs. That's unfair to do. That's why I think the Sox need to go outside the organization to upgrade. But the utility infielder thing. The outside upgrade over Lin would be extremely marginal. In a playoff setting Bogaerts is going to play everyday and if the Sox pass on getting a 2b, then Holt and probably Brandon Phillips, if not Nunez will probably share 2b. You could argue that 2b might be in need of a bigger upgrade than even a bullpen arm. I wouldn't, but I could see the case for it. It's certainly a bigger need than simply just promoting Lin to be the 2nd utility infielder. I would argue the opposite, and that whoever we acquire to upgrade over Barnes would not only likely be a marginal upgrade, but they could very well end up being worse than Barnes, as has been the case with many of our past reliever acquisitions. Iglesias is a lot better than Lin. I understand that whoever they get might not be better than Barnes, but it's not like you can only have Barnes as your only real trustworthy guy. It's not a bad thing to have multiple guys who you can trust to pitch high leverage. Because what if Barnes doesn't have it? What do you do? Just say that he didn't have it and don't have another option? We kind of know when Barnes is struggling - he can't throw strikes. Instead of having a train wreck, why not have another trustworthy guy who can pitch high leverage. And I don't agree that Iglesias is this huge upgrade to Lin. Iglesias is good defensively, but not otherworldly as we had been led to believe way back when and he pings singles, and that's it. I don't think he does anything that Lin can't do. And you only really need one or two backup infielders. It's different than high leverage relievers. In a playoff series your backup infielder will play sparingly but your high leverage relievers will pitch quite often. That's another big reason why it's more of a priority to get a good reliever. The Sox are not going to lose to the Yankees/Astros because their backup infielder is the problem. They'd lose because they couldn't properly bridge the game from their starter to their closer. That would do them in.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 7, 2018 23:39:10 GMT -5
Crazy game.
The Red Sox offense was great/The Royals pitching staff is horrible. Take your pick on which was more responsible for the Sox scoring 15 runs, but who cares? The Sox did what they had to do and it was fun to watch the hitters pad their stats.
JDM was having an aggravating game coming up with runners on base the first two times out and coming up empty. Can't expect that to happen three times, so when it was all said and done he still had 2 hits.
But he actually had more hits against his own body. I hope he's alright. They can't afford to lose him. I just hope they were hitting Swihart in the 9th so that JDM didn't risk any further damage. I just hope he's not more than just bruised.
David Price came up real small - again. The way he pitched after the Sox went out and gave him the lead was pathetic.
My guess (and maybe I'm being optimistic here) is that he'll get his ERA blown up to around 5 and they'll he'll spend the rest of his season pitching well and getting it under 4 (maybe he'll be lined up to not pitch against NY?), and then he'll get lit up in the playoffs again.
It's like he's this mega-streaky pitcher who can mimic an ace for a month stretch or so, but then he reverts into a batting practice pitcher - Josh Beckett used to do this occasionally, too as did Buchholz.
He lacks the consistency to be a top notch pitcher, which didn't use to be a problem for him.
If Price looks anything like this approaching playoff time, I don't want him in the rotation. I'll hope everybody else is healthy and that Wright can start.
If Price gets his head out of his butt, then it's a different story. The only thing I can really pin down re: Price is that I don't trust the man.
He still might be a really good pitcher, but I honestly can't say I've enjoyed the David Price experience. He's been a big letdown. Guess I should have known better. I was in favor of his signing and saw him as being on a Cooperstown path. Don't think that's the case anymore. I just don't see how he can stay consistent.
I hope Kelly is alright, that the lightheadedness doesn't mean anything bad. I saw him clutching at his chest and thought he was having chest pains or that he pulled a muscle.
And now we'll see if Swihart can salvage his Red Sox career or if the Sox need to add a catcher to the list of needs. I'm hoping the Vazquez injury winds up being a blessing in disguise. Not that I wish ill of Vazquez or think that his injury is a good thing - but I've been very unimpressed by his performance this season, both offensively and even defensively. I feel better when Leon is the catcher. And I am still curious to see what Swihart can do if given at least a semi-regular chance to catch. I'd say he has a 3 week audition looming. It's his stay of execution.
Although it does strip the Sox of a trade chip, but I can't imagine how valuable he'd be based off of his current performance and the fact that he hadn't been used as a catcher.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 8, 2018 1:56:14 GMT -5
Gents, enjoy this. I think this goes without saying, but we're witnessing a special season. We tend to judge a team's success on them winning a title or not, but this group is just incredibly awesome and they make nearly everyday fun. It makes me want to be cheesy and goddamn that's great right there.
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Post by cdj on Jul 8, 2018 4:12:15 GMT -5
I think the royals should be relegated, this is such a blatant mismatch of a series
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jul 8, 2018 6:14:37 GMT -5
I think the royals should be relegated, this is such a blatant mismatch of a series If ever I saw a post that was the kiss of death for the next game .....
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 8, 2018 7:45:48 GMT -5
If this was brought up I apologize but today will be 51 games on the road with 40 at home. Looks like a lot of home cooking after the all star game. We have a home stand before.
I noticed the MFY have a late west coast trip in September. There good but better at home. A billion dollars for that stadium. Lol.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 8, 2018 7:55:30 GMT -5
Sox 2 games up with that favorable schedule vs the Yankees having to squeeze in 4 more games and more road games from here on out makes things look pretty good for the Sox. Anything can happen but things are lined up pretty well for this team to take the east.
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Post by dd on Jul 8, 2018 8:20:54 GMT -5
Sox 2 games up with that favorable schedule vs the Yankees having to squeeze in 4 more games and more road games from here on out makes things look pretty good for the Sox. Anything can happen but things are lined up pretty well for this team to take the east. The Yankees are fortunate that 2 of those extra games are double headers in Baltimore and both with 2 games left in the series. It won't be as bad for them as it could be. The best part is that they play in Tampa for 4 games before coming to Boston for the last 3. (It's too bad though that the Thursday game for them will be at 1:10pm. Rather have them travelling all night!) The Sox meanwhile are home against Baltimore and then have Thursday off to wait for the Ys.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 8, 2018 8:35:24 GMT -5
I would argue the opposite, and that whoever we acquire to upgrade over Barnes would not only likely be a marginal upgrade, but they could very well end up being worse than Barnes, as has been the case with many of our past reliever acquisitions. Iglesias is a lot better than Lin. I understand that whoever they get might not be better than Barnes, but it's not like you can only have Barnes as your only real trustworthy guy. It's not a bad thing to have multiple guys who you can trust to pitch high leverage. Because what if Barnes doesn't have it? What do you do? Just say that he didn't have it and don't have another option? We kind of know when Barnes is struggling - he can't throw strikes. Instead of having a train wreck, why not have another trustworthy guy who can pitch high leverage. And I don't agree that Iglesias is this huge upgrade to Lin. Iglesias is good defensively, but not otherworldly as we had been led to believe way back when and he pings singles, and that's it. I don't think he does anything that Lin can't do. And you only really need one or two backup infielders. It's different than high leverage relievers. In a playoff series your backup infielder will play sparingly but your high leverage relievers will pitch quite often. That's another big reason why it's more of a priority to get a good reliever. The Sox are not going to lose to the Yankees/Astros because their backup infielder is the problem. They'd lose because they couldn't properly bridge the game from their starter to their closer. That would do them in. Take a look at our track record acquiring relievers mid season. Other than Ziegler, I can’t think of any that have contributed in a meaningful way.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 8, 2018 8:35:48 GMT -5
Man I wish we could play these guys again....
Oh wait, we are....
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 8, 2018 10:20:29 GMT -5
Johnson to the DL, are they just going to skip his turn?
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Post by bluechip on Jul 8, 2018 10:33:22 GMT -5
Johnson to the DL, are they just going to skip his turn? Braiser and Cuevas up.
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