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9/3-9/5 Red Sox @ Braves Series Thread
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 3, 2018 18:21:17 GMT -5
this west coast trip might go very badly for the yankees, not that i'm complaining ; )
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Post by tizzle on Sept 3, 2018 18:37:40 GMT -5
8.5 up with 23 to play (24 for Yankees). Sounds pretty good.
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Post by gerry on Sept 3, 2018 18:43:55 GMT -5
this west coast trip might go very badly for the yankees, not that i'm complaining ; ) LoL
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Post by gerry on Sept 3, 2018 18:54:25 GMT -5
Just read an old text message to fam, dated July 9, 2018, describing my rare moment of gratitude to Buck Showalter for beatimg the nyfy and giving the Sox a huuuuge 2.5G lead in the division. Now it is 8.5 and 16 with just weeks to go. What a difference a couple of months makr, yet the grousing here seems to have increased.
ERod and Wright just looked terrific , as did several other RP's. Sale and Price and Devers are returning . Nunez, Kinsler, JBJ, Swihart, now CV really extend the back of the lineup in ways we never expected. Defense continues to be well above average, among the best. We routinely watch a Cy and TWO MVP candidates. This is a team to enjoy. It's been a very good year with much more to come.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 3, 2018 19:13:56 GMT -5
I'm hoping that 2017 Kimbrel does show up at some point for even a month (let it be October) this year. Inconsistency is your friend.
What can happen before can happen again. May 24 to July 20:
18 G, 17 scoreless outings, 18.1 7 2 2 11 31, 2.75 xFIP, 1.57 FIP, 0.98 ERA, 1.92 raw Win Probability Added, which is 4.31 per 60 G, leverage-adjusted. His WPA in his 36 games before and after is 1.00. He was basically four times as valuable on a per-game basis (3.8, to be exact) in that stretch that he has been otherwise.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 3, 2018 19:26:14 GMT -5
Da Yankees lose!! Magic number is 16!!! Yeah, but losing a game here and there doesn't mean that much in the long run. Unless it's to the A's. And maybe unless the starting pitching matchup is Sabathia vs. Cahill, as it will be for the W/C game.
The A's are using an opener tomorrow (Liam Hendricks) for the second time in 4 games, so we don't know who is expected to pitch the bulk of the innings: Chris Bassitt, Frankie Montas (whose turn it is but was hit hard in his last start), or, less likely, Daniel Mengden, who followed Hendricks the last time but only lasted 2 IP.
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Post by GyIantosca on Sept 3, 2018 19:51:51 GMT -5
The Yankees had the easiest schedule so far.
The schedule maker did us no favors. Three in Tampa after 4 at home vs Cleveland. Then just friggin two at home vs Miami, then 4 on the road in Chicago, now 3 in Atlanta. I understand some of the teams are not that great but that bouncing around affects the Sox.
At least the Yanks are in the West coast, while we play a tough week. Three vs Braves ,in which two day games, three home vs Astros.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Sept 3, 2018 20:34:12 GMT -5
This must have been one of the scheduled days off for JBJ. Cora has had plenty of chances to double switch or just insert him for defensive reasons and has elected not to do so. Pinch run in the 9th for JD
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Post by sarasoxer on Sept 3, 2018 21:17:07 GMT -5
Wright's fastball topped out at a little over 88 mph too today. He clearly showed he's healthy, strong, and ready to go for hopefully the next two months. Just awesome. Have fun on the West Coast, New York. Did not know that! Maybe Pomeranz can learn the knuckler?!
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Post by manfred on Sept 3, 2018 21:21:59 GMT -5
This was just one game, and one can’t say for sure what is going on, but I was not wild about CV’s pitch selection. I would love to see Eovaldi throw more fastballs and fewer cutters.
Again, it isn’t just CV, but I felt like the hard throwers were not challenging enough with cheese.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 3, 2018 21:46:45 GMT -5
The Yankees had the easiest schedule so far. The schedule maker did us no favors. Three in Tampa after 4 at home vs Cleveland. Then just friggin two at home vs Miami, then 4 on the road in Chicago, now 3 in Atlanta. I understand some of the teams are not that great but that bouncing around affects the Sox. At least the Yanks are in the West coast, while we play a tough week. Three vs Braves ,in which two day games, three home vs Astros. The good thing is that they're playing .500 ball during that stretch if you include today's W. When you consider this is as close as they've gotten to being in a funk, it has to be pretty encouraging. Their worst ball of the year in a grueling schedule against strong teams (Miami is the obvious exception since the White Sox have been playing well) and it results in even steven record. Without Chris Sale and Devers mind you.
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Post by jerryu on Sept 3, 2018 22:59:34 GMT -5
I regularly follow Sox Prospects, appreciate all the work involved, and apologize for my few contributions. I've been a dedicated Red Sox fan for 80 years(dating back to Catfish Metkovitch days) and thoroughly enjoyed both the good and the bad years. The message boards on prospects are my favorites. This year has been a joy and one I don't expect to see again. For you loyal fans posting on the game site your sufferings and frustrations,.try to enjoy the victories more than you suffer the defeats. It will sustain you in the future.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 3, 2018 23:19:46 GMT -5
Excellent game.
Everything just seemed to break right. The Braves put a million runners on and only scored twice. The Red Sox got the clutch 2 out hits - Kinsler came up big today.
Everybody literally pitched in.
Don't know what to make out of Eovaldi. Had great stuff. Walked more guys than he had in all of his starts combined, threw a ton of pitches in only recording 10 outs and somehow didn't allow any runs - thanks to Brandon Workman, who's making a case for himself to be on the post-season roster.
Glad the Yankees lost and the magic number is down to 16. If the Sox can get the lead up to double digits it's entirely possible that the Sox could clinch the division at Yankee Stadium at some point between 9/18 through 9/20. Celebrating on Yankee turf would be a blast. Hopefully they'd do a better job of it than they did in 2016!
Glad to see Devers coming up tomorrow and it's cool that Brandon Phillips will be along for the ride.
Do wish we could have seen what Lakins could do, but I guess they'd prefer he get his rest. Too bad.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 4, 2018 4:19:20 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 4, 2018 4:44:12 GMT -5
Just when you think you couldn't like Mookie Betts anymore humanly possible, then you hear about this.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 4, 2018 12:03:42 GMT -5
I regularly follow Sox Prospects, appreciate all the work involved, and apologize for my few contributions. I've been a dedicated Red Sox fan for 80 years(dating back to Catfish Metkovitch days) and thoroughly enjoyed both the good and the bad years. The message boards on prospects are my favorites. This year has been a joy and one I don't expect to see again. For you loyal fans posting on the game site your sufferings and frustrations, try to enjoy the victories more than you suffer the defeats. It will sustain you in the future. This is the fundamental psychological principle of living, and it's aptly put.
There's good evidence that some people are hard-wired to be pessimistic and melancholy, but there is also strong reason to believe that we have free will to look on the brighter side. And making yourself, by an act of will, banish the pessimistic thoughts that follow a defeat (and we're not just talking sports here)--refusing to wallow in them--rewires your brain so that it eventually starts being more optimistic.
This is what the great philosopher of free will Robert Kane calls "self-forming actions" and "self-forming willings." We don't have free will over most of our choices, just when we have a conflict of the will that can be be resolved with efforts of the will. No one likes to feel miserable, so when your brain is defaulting to that response, you probably have the thought that you'd be happier not taking the defeat so hard. That's a conflict of the will, where the part of you that knows better wants to do one thing and your more primitive self wants to do the opposite. Kane says that when you make an effort of will, in this case to counteract the natural defeatist attitude, it shapes who you are.
Jeffrey M. Schwartz, a research and practicing psychotherapist, came up with essentially the same theory of free will and permanent change in character, without knowing a word of Kane (his book is The Mind & The Brain). My theory of the physics of consciousness produced this concept of free will before I'd heard of either of them. It's real stuff.
Note that we don't have any power to make ourselves happier when we're down or depressed for no reason we can discern. But when we have active negative thoughts and feelings, we have the power to, at the very least, limit their intensity. You can just tell yourself, "stop thinking that way!" or "don't take it so hard!" It's easier to make it work for some people than others, and you may have to repeat the application. But it can be done.
Do it often enough, and the next thing you know, you're expecting Matt Barnes or Heath Hembree to pitch well the next time he enters a game!
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 4, 2018 14:00:43 GMT -5
I regularly follow Sox Prospects, appreciate all the work involved, and apologize for my few contributions. I've been a dedicated Red Sox fan for 80 years(dating back to Catfish Metkovitch days) and thoroughly enjoyed both the good and the bad years. The message boards on prospects are my favorites. This year has been a joy and one I don't expect to see again. For you loyal fans posting on the game site your sufferings and frustrations, try to enjoy the victories more than you suffer the defeats. It will sustain you in the future. This is the fundamental psychological principle of living, and it's aptly put.
There's good evidence that some people are hard-wired to be pessimistic and melancholy, but there is also strong reason to believe that we have free will to look on the brighter side. And making yourself, by an act of will, banish the pessimistic thoughts that follow a defeat (and we're not just talking sports here)--refusing to wallow in them--rewires your brain so that it eventually starts being more optimistic.
This is what the great philosopher of free will Robert Kane calls "self-forming actions" and "self-forming willings." We don't have free will over most of our choices, just when we have a conflict of the will that can be be resolved with efforts of the will. No one likes to feel miserable, so when your brain is defaulting to that response, you probably have the thought that you'd be happier not taking the defeat so hard. That's a conflict of the will, where the part of you that knows better wants to do one thing and your more primitive self wants to do the opposite. Kane says that when you make an effort of will, in this case to counteract the natural defeatist attitude, it shapes who you are.
Jeffrey M. Schwartz, a research and practicing psychotherapist, came up with essentially the same theory of free will and permanent change in character, without knowing a word of Kane (his book is The Mind & The Brain). My theory of the physics of consciousness produced this concept of free will before I'd heard of either of them. It's real stuff.
Note that we don't have any power to make ourselves happier when we're down or depressed for no reason we can discern. But when we have active negative thoughts and feelings, we have the power to, at the very least, limit their intensity. You can just tell yourself, "stop thinking that way!" or "don't take it so hard!" It's easier to make it work for some people than others, and you may have to repeat the application. But it can be done.
Do it often enough, and the next thing you know, you're expecting Matt Barnes or Heath Hembree to pitch well the next time he enters a game!
Perspective is the key to everything. Imagine having our beloved Red Sox lose the World Series on a Bill Buckner error or whatever. Now imagine you were born in Syria and just saw your entire family killed by a drone. I’m no longer sad about the Red Sox because it’s just dumb to waste time on the negativity when it really is so damn meaningless after purposefully changing my perspective. It works great for me in all aspects of life. The only people this would not work for are the people who literally have it worse than anyone else. But I still get to enjoy the great times.
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 4, 2018 17:34:58 GMT -5
I have always taken great joy in winning and taken the losses with a grain of salt. It isn't always easy when victory is stolen by the jaws of defeat but their is always 2 teams trying to win and it goes both ways.
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 4, 2018 17:36:51 GMT -5
Porcello needs a good outing tonight, he has been scuffling.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 4, 2018 18:00:14 GMT -5
Porcello needs a good outing tonight, he has been scuffling. He and Eovaldi are actually competing for the #4 starter in the post-season. Porcello gets the tiebreaker because Eovaldi projects to be better in the pen, but if Eovaldi is significantly better the rest of the way, you have to give him the nod. (And I wish they'd consider Wright for that role, too.)
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 4, 2018 18:13:31 GMT -5
Porcello needs a good outing tonight, he has been scuffling. He and Eovaldi are actually competing for the #4 starter in the post-season. Porcello gets the tiebreaker because Eovaldi projects to be better in the pen, but if Eovaldi is significantly better the rest of the way, you have to give him the nod. (And I wish they'd consider Wright for that role, too.) Last night Eovoldi came out throwing 98-100 and was wild, he settled down and threw strikes when he dropped back to 95-96 or so it seemed to me. Do you think they were testing out the BP option and him letting loose to start out and see how strong he could be out of the pen? On another note I find it very creative and an interesting strategy to have a reliever start a game before the actual starter, I think we will be seeing more of it in the future. Talk about challenging conventional wisdom.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 4, 2018 18:31:29 GMT -5
Porcello needs a good outing tonight, he has been scuffling. He and Eovaldi are actually competing for the #4 starter in the post-season. Porcello gets the tiebreaker because Eovaldi projects to be better in the pen, but if Eovaldi is significantly better the rest of the way, you have to give him the nod. (And I wish they'd consider Wright for that role, too.) They tried it with Wright earlier in the year and the length of going too deep into games is what he said made his knee bother him. The Sox probably need him more in the bullpen anyways.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 4, 2018 18:34:47 GMT -5
Porcello will be the 3rd starter and E Rod will be 4th (if E Rod remains hot, that could change). That is the way is should and will be come playoff time.
Cora is not putting Rick Porcello in the pen, no way.
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Post by kjkramer on Sept 4, 2018 18:40:08 GMT -5
Are we going to be no-hit the first 4-5 innings again this game? NOT being negative... going off of recent trends
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Post by station13 on Sept 4, 2018 18:47:35 GMT -5
How is Betts still hitting .340-ish with his recent streaks?
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