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Post by tizzle on Sept 22, 2018 21:58:26 GMT -5
Ty Buttery gave up that lead against Houston, btw.
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Post by malynn19 on Sept 22, 2018 22:00:23 GMT -5
You guys are awesome, but there should be no more excuses Drew is terribad. He has been given every chance to succeed and failed, I mean he lost twice to BAL. He was a terrible acquisition but only second to the Thornburg trade because of who we gave away. He should not be in the PO roster or signed after this year. So I was saying...
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Post by tizzle on Sept 22, 2018 22:13:00 GMT -5
You guys are awesome, but there should be no more excuses Drew is terribad. He has been given every chance to succeed and failed, I mean he lost twice to BAL. He was a terrible acquisition but only second to the Thornburg trade because of who we gave away. He should not be in the PO roster or signed after this year. So I was saying... I'm still not thinking about him for the postseason roster, but I think this one is more bad luck than anything. Devers should be able to make that first play and if he does, then it was routine grounder and routine fly ball. Really, the worst thing he did was let such a huge jump on the double steal.
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Post by station13 on Sept 22, 2018 22:13:55 GMT -5
Sad to watch Pomeranz at this point. He'll make a great Sugar Land Skeeters next year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 23, 2018 3:28:13 GMT -5
most of the outs have been hit hard against Porcello too....everything in the zone is getting hammered Porcello shouldn't be pitching past 2 times through the order in the playoffs, unless he's on one of those unhittable games he goes on once a month. Let's not expose Porcello too much when it matters most.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 23, 2018 6:09:42 GMT -5
You guys are awesome, but there should be no more excuses Drew is terribad. He has been given every chance to succeed and failed, I mean he lost twice to BAL. He was a terrible acquisition but only second to the Thornburg trade because of who we gave away. He should not be in the PO roster or signed after this year. So I was saying... He wasn't a terrible acquisition because he was great last season. A cheap 3-win season on a 1st place team.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 23, 2018 7:18:43 GMT -5
i thought they were going to skip a Porcello start. It is hit or miss, hopefully he will be on. Starting to worry that Cleveland is cheating again, like they did with Sale some time back. In the sideline segment with Erin, she said Porcello said his goal was to work on his entire repertoire rather than concentrating on one or two pitches to specific zones. He was also slated to go 5IP. Last outing was on 6 days rest and most of his recent outings have been less than 6 innings. He's being rested but in a different fashion than Sale. Looked to me like mission accomplished.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 23, 2018 7:45:00 GMT -5
My 2 cents.
The Sox will go into the playoffs with 11 pitchers. 10 are pretty much locks:
Sale Price Porcello ERod Eovaldi Wright Barnes Brasier Kelly Kimbrel
The 11th pitcher is not likely to have much of an impact. I'd prefer Poyner but Hembree seems more likely.
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Post by ianrs on Sept 23, 2018 10:46:32 GMT -5
The 11th pitcher is not likely to have much of an impact. I'd prefer Poyner but Hembree seems more likely. I think its much more likely the 11th man is Johnson to eat innings just in case. Hembree has been bad for the last couple months.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 23, 2018 11:42:38 GMT -5
The 11th pitcher is not likely to have much of an impact. I'd prefer Poyner but Hembree seems more likely. I think its much more likely the 11th man is Johnson to eat innings just in case. Hembree has been bad for the last couple months. Agreed. I intended to word it 'Johnson or Hembree seem'
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Post by telson13 on Sept 23, 2018 12:12:55 GMT -5
Ty Buttery gave up that lead against Houston, btw. Please allow me to fume briefly tho: I like Kinsler. I think he was a smart acquisition. I love his defense and I think he’s got enough offensive pop to provide real value, especially to a team with an awful 2b situation. However, 1) they had Tzu-Wei Lin slashing something like .310/.370/.460 (Im guessing, but it was around there) in AAA. He’s eminently capable of playing 2b well, and probably throwing up an OPS in the region of .700-.750 in MLB. He’s only 24. He’s still an actual “prospect,” who’s looked very good defensively and occasionally offensively. And 2) They had and still have an obvious bullpen want for a late-inning arm, and a potential actual “need” for a closer, depending on Kimbrel’s future. I’m not bemoaning the Kinsler acquisition as a bad one. I actually think he was a sneaky-good, almost ideal player to get back. But WHY THE HELL didnt they plug in Buttrey and Lin during July, just to see what they had?! I’m happy with the general job Dombrowski has done in assembling this team, and I’m thrilled with him taking a chance on Cora, who’s even the **perfect** answer to years of Farrell. But for a GM who’s always had trouble assembling bullpens...the handling of Buttrey, Jerez, and Lin leading up to the Kinsler deal just really pisses me off. Buttrey and Lin especially should’ve had LONG looks as internal options. That was just bad business.
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Post by telson13 on Sept 23, 2018 12:22:33 GMT -5
He wasn't a terrible acquisition because he was great last season. A cheap 3-win season on a 1st place team. The mistake (with all the caveats around, “realistically playoff teams don’t trade their 2/3 starters”) was not flipping him, knowing they probably wouldn’t extend him. There were plenty of reasons for concern (Rodriguez injury, Wright’s situation, will Price be back, etc.), but his value was high and they almost assuredly could’ve gotten a legitimate AA/AAA high-end pitching prospect, or a buy-low TOR candidate like German Marquez, 1:1 in return. And in all likelihood, they could’ve plugged said pitcher into the 5-spot and run with it. They have a surface-similar situation with Porcello, but he’ll likely net a QO and pick, and his salary/performance aren’t as favorable as Pomeranz’s were. Pretty brutal that Pomeranz will return zilch.
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Post by tizzle on Sept 23, 2018 15:13:10 GMT -5
My 2 cents. The Sox will go into the playoffs with 11 pitchers. 10 are pretty much locks: Sale Price Porcello ERod Eovaldi Wright Barnes Brasier KellyKimbrel The 11th pitcher is not likely to have much of an impact. I'd prefer Poyner but Hembree seems more likely. I don't see Kelly as anywhere near a lock. I'm surprised anyone does. I see it as a battle for the last 2 spots. Probably Kelly, Workman, Johnson, Poyner competing for it. If they even consider Hembree we have to wonder about there sanity.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 23, 2018 15:27:43 GMT -5
The 11th pitcher is not likely to have much of an impact. I'd prefer Poyner but Hembree seems more likely. I think its much more likely the 11th man is Johnson to eat innings just in case. Hembree has been bad for the last couple months. There is very little need to eat innings in the playoffs. They have enough pitchers who are better who can eat innings with all of the days off they get. And this is the playoffs. They will throw until their arms fall off. That's not to say I want Poyner, Hembree or Johnson. I don't know. I don't think it'll be an important decision. None of them should be getting high leverage.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 23, 2018 15:39:23 GMT -5
MFY lose to the Orioles; if the A's win they'll be a 1/2 game back with the FY traveling to play 4 in Tampa and 3 in Fenway. MWHAHAHAHAHA!
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 23, 2018 15:45:50 GMT -5
MFY lose to the Orioles; if the A's win they'll be a 1/2 game back with the FY traveling to play 4 in Tampa and 3 in Fenway. MWHAHAHAHAHA! Do you know who has the tiebreaker?
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Post by radiohix on Sept 23, 2018 15:51:57 GMT -5
MFY lose to the Orioles; if the A's win they'll be a 1/2 game back with the FY traveling to play 4 in Tampa and 3 in Fenway. MWHAHAHAHAHA! Do you know who has the tiebreaker? The MFY sadly (so it's like they're 1 game up) but with a much easier schedule.
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Post by terriblehondo on Sept 23, 2018 17:19:30 GMT -5
I don't care who wins the playoff game but I really want it to be in Oakland so they will have extra travel.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 23, 2018 17:28:53 GMT -5
I don't care who wins the playoff game but I really want it to be in Oakland so they will have extra travel. I can't understand not wanting the Yankees to lose that game.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 23, 2018 17:37:29 GMT -5
I don't care who wins the playoff game but I really want it to be in Oakland so they will have extra travel. I can't understand not wanting the Yankees to lose that game. It's not like the Yankees are the only team that could possibly beat the Red Sox so we better hope not to face them so they can win. If the Red Sox are destined to win the WS, I'd rather beat the Yankees on the way there. That's like two WS wins. I wouldn’t be surprised if this game tonight is the least viewed Sox game of the year with it being so meaningless and with who knows available to pitch and with the Pats on. Don’t think I’ll watch much of it. Just be following on game day.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 23, 2018 17:59:32 GMT -5
I can't understand not wanting the Yankees to lose that game. It's not like the Yankees are the only team that could possibly beat the Red Sox so we better hope not to face them so they can win. If the Red Sox are destined to win the WS, I'd rather beat the Yankees on the way there. That's like two WS wins. I'm not worried about the matchups or anything, I just like it when the Yankees lose. And none of this "I want them to win until they face us so that we can beat them" complicated line of thinking for me, either. Yankees losing = good. If they get ousted from a one-game playoff after a 100-win season or whatever, that'd be all the sweeter.
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Post by terriblehondo on Sept 23, 2018 18:25:08 GMT -5
It's not like the Yankees are the only team that could possibly beat the Red Sox so we better hope not to face them so they can win. If the Red Sox are destined to win the WS, I'd rather beat the Yankees on the way there. That's like two WS wins. I'm not worried about the matchups or anything, I just like it when the Yankees lose. And none of this "I want them to win until they face us so that we can beat them" complicated line of thinking for me, either. Yankees losing = good. If they get ousted from a one-game playoff after a 100-win season or whatever, that'd be all the sweeter. I don't care who we play because I don't see any difference between the two. They are both very good teams that I hope play a 24 inning game and then have to face the Sox after traveling from the West coast. Then I want to face Cleveland in the ALCS because if the Sox don't make the World Series I would want it to be by Tito.
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Post by tizzle on Sept 23, 2018 18:33:19 GMT -5
We ought to be talking about whether Moreland should be starting playoff games or just impersonating Doug Mientkiewicz.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 23, 2018 18:34:01 GMT -5
Hey ESPN crew, this is not a Yankees game.
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Post by terriblehondo on Sept 23, 2018 18:41:50 GMT -5
What a play by Xander.
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