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Post by dwoody3123 on Feb 17, 2013 23:32:05 GMT -5
With Shaq, my guess would be that he would just report to extended once the school year ends. Remember, he's gotta stay academically eligible. He's going to the GCL anyway. Yeah, that silly school thing gets in the way, doesn't it
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Post by dwoody3123 on Feb 18, 2013 1:20:42 GMT -5
Following up on the Shaq Thompson question, what will happen to our two other football players? Brandon Magee is a longshot to get drafted and Khiry Cooper certainly will not, so I'm assuming they will also report to the GCL after the school year?
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Post by welovewally on Feb 18, 2013 6:01:55 GMT -5
Farrell annoyed with Aceves.
Aceves' batting-practice lobs perplex Red Sox. Farrell: 'He didn't go through the drill as intended and we've addressed it.'
By Ian Browne / MLB.com | 2/17/2013 3:19 P.M.
If the Red Sox trade a Bullpen Arm I hope it's Aceves - he's toxic
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 18, 2013 7:13:22 GMT -5
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Post by welovewally on Feb 18, 2013 7:44:18 GMT -5
I don't think that should stop the Red Sox from removing a toxic personality like Aceves from the team. Wasn't team chemistry a big priority of this past of season? Do the Red Sox really want to deal with him and the media all spring again. Lets just move on from Aceves.
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Post by sibbysisti on Feb 18, 2013 10:11:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so quick to get Aceves out of town. Speier says they won't get much for him at this point. Maybe he's right....or wrong, who knows?
But Farrell says he has addressed the situation. I have to take him at his word until he shows otherwise. It would be more cost effective for the club to play Aceves until some team really needs him and is willing to surrender good value.
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Post by remember04 on Feb 18, 2013 10:42:07 GMT -5
I don't think that should stop the Red Sox from removing a toxic personality like Aceves from the team. Wasn't team chemistry a big priority of this past of season? Do the Red Sox really want to deal with him and the media all spring again. Lets just move on from Aceves. We mignt be able to wait until the trade deadline and if he's pitching well get something from a desperate team but it's not like his trade value will go down or anything.
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Post by wcp3 on Feb 18, 2013 11:06:01 GMT -5
Who cares about Aceves' trade value? He's not that good anyway, so losing him for nothing wouldn't really make a difference.
For someone who's accomplished relatively little at the major league level, Aceves sure does seem to hold himself in high regard.
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Post by jdb on Feb 18, 2013 11:22:39 GMT -5
A few tweets
Cafardo Alfredo Aceves agent Tom OConnell has arrived to Fort myers
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A rival evaluator believes that if the Red Sox decide to move Aceves, he will have some value in the trade market. Making $2.65m this year.
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Post by jmei on Feb 18, 2013 12:38:05 GMT -5
Would Aceves even crack the seven-man bullpen coming out of Spring Training if everyone is healthy? I see Hanrahan, Bailey, Tazawa, Uehara, and Breslow unambiguously ahead of him, Miller and Morales probably ahead of him, and Bard, Wilson, and Mortensen as wild cards.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 18, 2013 13:31:48 GMT -5
The bullpen would be better talent-wise with Aceves given is versatility to start, long relieve, short relieve, and close games. However if the Sox can get something decent for him, it would help solve the roster crunch in the bullpen.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 18, 2013 13:42:31 GMT -5
My guess is that Aceves doesn't make it to Opening Day with the Sox. They'll release him or deal him because ultimately even with some injury attrition, they have Mortensen who is out of options and can fill the same role. They have Morales who can start or relieve.
My hope is that there's a team dumb enough out their to think his 25 saves makes him a valuable commodity and worthy of something useful in a trade.
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Post by larrycook on Feb 18, 2013 14:23:17 GMT -5
Apparently Ace Aceves was lobbing pitches in during his throwing session today and had to be spoken to by both Farrell and Nieves. If he keeps up this BS he will be gone even before the WBC starts. How much of the clowning that Aceves does, affect the rest of the team and especailly the youngsters?
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Post by hammerhead on Feb 18, 2013 15:09:59 GMT -5
Aceves could go to the Mets and be the best closer on the team tommorrow. I'm not saying he will, but he definitely has some value and could be a valuable commodity as injuries build up in ST. He has great stuff (although not the numbers to bare it out) and some team will be willing to try and fix the ten cent head. Call up the Mets and see if the Sox can get that toolsy outfielder they got for Dickey.
As for Doubront, I can't believe that Felix thought that his best year happening in the year that he stayed in Boston training all winter is a coincidence. It's really frustrating that he wouldn't take the leap forward he made last year as motivation...
In regards to Shaq, he is such a tremendous Football player and probably a 1st round NFL talent, I find it hard to believe that he will spend much time on baseball going forward. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 18, 2013 16:17:07 GMT -5
It looks like Pedro El Grande was working with Dan Bard good to see.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 18, 2013 16:25:42 GMT -5
Aceves could go to the Mets and be the best closer on the team tommorrow. Bobby Parnell is pretty awesome. Not only his he better than Aceves, he's one of the better relievers in the league.
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Post by wcp3 on Feb 18, 2013 16:32:22 GMT -5
Aceves could go to the Mets and be the best closer on the team tommorrow. I'm not saying he will, but he definitely has some value and could be a valuable commodity as injuries build up in ST. He has great stuff (although not the numbers to bare it out) and some team will be willing to try and fix the ten cent head. Call up the Mets and see if the Sox can get that toolsy outfielder they got for Dickey. He does not have great stuff - he has one pretty good pitch that he can't control consistently. Aceves would not be a big loss.
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Post by hammerhead on Feb 18, 2013 17:02:43 GMT -5
Aceves could go to the Mets and be the best closer on the team tommorrow. Bobby Parnell is pretty awesome. Not only his he better than Aceves, he's one of the better relievers in the league. Is this sarcasm....
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Post by jmei on Feb 18, 2013 17:53:34 GMT -5
Bobby Parnell is pretty awesome. Not only his he better than Aceves, he's one of the better relievers in the league. Is this sarcasm.... Parnell has put up a 2.91 FIP (23rd among qualified relievers) and a 2.98 ERA in 163 IP over the past three seasons. Aceves' marks over that same timeframe are 4.21 FIP and 3.73 ERA. Parnell isn't Mo Rivera in his prime, but he's a pretty damn good reliever.
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Post by Matt Huegel on Feb 18, 2013 18:08:57 GMT -5
Bradford wrote on why he's still on the team this morning. It's not as simple as whether his talent is worth the headache that comes with it. He also does bring some positive attributes to the table on the intangibles side. Also has an option left, which seems to get mentioned very infrequently. I'm guessing if he doesn't handle a reduced role in MLB well, demoting him might be about the same as cutting him in practice at this point. Otherwise, I would say he should project to open at Pawtucket. www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/rob-bradford/2013/02/18/look-why-alfredo-aceves-still-red-sox
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Post by brianthetaoist on Feb 18, 2013 19:39:50 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 18, 2013 23:03:45 GMT -5
The sox teamates have done the impossible and gotten DP to join twitter
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Post by welovewally on Feb 19, 2013 1:40:53 GMT -5
He does not have great stuff - he has one pretty good pitch that he can't control consistently. Aceves would not be a big loss. Buster Olney tweet; If the Red Sox released Aceves by March 13th they would only have to pay 1/6 of 2.65m salary & only 1/4 of salary if they released him by March 27th. Contract not guaranteed. I agree that Aceves would not be a big loss & apparently wouldn't cost much. I hope they trade him, & if they can't find any takers, release him. All by March 13th.
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Post by hammerhead on Feb 19, 2013 7:28:08 GMT -5
Parnell has put up a 2.91 FIP (23rd among qualified relievers) and a 2.98 ERA in 163 IP over the past three seasons. Aceves' marks over that same timeframe are 4.21 FIP and 3.73 ERA. Parnell isn't Mo Rivera in his prime, but he's a pretty damn good reliever. You can quote pretty much any stats you want and it won't convince me that Parnell is closer material (not that Aceves is). I've watched the Mets pretty closely the last couple years and every time they allow Parnell to close he shits his pants. He's great in low leverage, and he throws the ball 120mph, but he doesn't have the closer mentality. He's been given chances and has been groomed for that role, but there's a reason they have Frank Francisco penciled in as closer (before the injury that allowed Parnell to be named closer).
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Post by hammerhead on Feb 19, 2013 8:41:03 GMT -5
I think the chances that Aceves is still on this team on opening day are slim and none. He has some value and worst case he is put on optional waivers and either picked up by another team or outrighted to Pawtucket. I don't see any way that the Red Sox keep Aceves over Mortensen or Miller, both of who are out of options.
I think Mortensen has enough promise and had a good enough season last year that you have to take the chance that he could put up a reasonable approximation of Aceves numbers. Basically the role that either would fill would be low leverage, back to back days, multiple innings, where a starter gets injured or bombed and the occasional spot start. It's the swiss army knife role. Aceves obviously thinks he's too good for that role, while Mortensen would be happy to have it..... Who would you rather have.
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