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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 19, 2013 9:44:02 GMT -5
Well let's not assume everyone will be healthy. Breslow reportedly has shoulder inflammation.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 19, 2013 10:04:08 GMT -5
You can quote pretty much any stats you want and it won't convince me that Parnell is closer material.I've watched the Mets pretty closely the last couple years and every time they allow Parnell to close he shits his pants. He's great in low leverage, and he throws the ball 120mph, but he doesn't have the closer mentality. He's been given chances and has been groomed for that role, but there's a reason they have Frank Francisco penciled in as closer (before the injury that allowed Parnell to be named closer). I know it won't convince you, but I'll throw it out there anyway. Parnell appeared in 30 games in 2012 where it was a "save situation." He pitched 24 innings, struck out 23, walked 4, had a 3.00 ERA and allowed one home run. Almost all of his stats were better in save situations than in none-save - FIP, strikeout rate, walk rate, home run rate, WHIP. In save situations, Aceves's ERA was over 6.00, and he allowed five home runs in 34.1 innings. The "closer mentality' thing is the biggest fraud in sports. Nobody has a closer mentality until they're allowed to close. They used to say the same thing about Keith Foulke until someone actually gave them the chance to close. If anyone can find me even a moderate sample-size example of someone pitching worse in save situations than in non-save sitations, I'm all ears. The idea that Aceves is a better closer or a better pitcher in general just has no basis.
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Post by sbones13 on Feb 19, 2013 11:22:24 GMT -5
It is pretty amazing that a team like the Sox that has been dealing with clubhouse issues for going on two years now is still screwing around with Aceves. 99% of the time I think this stuff is overblown, but this is a mediocre middle reliever that refused to hand the ball to the manager last year! Granted, that manager was a clown, but how can you let this stuff go?
I get it when it's Pedro or Manny. I still never loved it, but I get it. But Alfredo Aceves?!?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Feb 20, 2013 10:17:07 GMT -5
Anyone have any idea what the minor league report/workout dates are? I'm heading down to Fort Myers March 9th-15th and want to catch as many minor league games as I can. I know they play the Twins the 13-14th according to the Rochester Redwings website, but the Pawsox/Seadogs have nothing posted yet.
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Post by elguapo on Feb 20, 2013 11:29:24 GMT -5
If anyone can find me even a moderate sample-size example of someone pitching worse in save situations than in non-save sitations, I'm all ears. Baseball is 90% mental; the other half is physical. - Yogi Berra The sample sizes for relievers in general and closing / middle relief in particular, much less one individual reliever, are not conducive to a stat-based argument either way.
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Post by nhdave on Feb 21, 2013 22:38:40 GMT -5
Anyone have any idea what the minor league report/workout dates are? I'm heading down to Fort Myers March 9th-15th and want to catch as many minor league games as I can. I know they play the Twins the 13-14th according to the Rochester Redwings website, but the Pawsox/Seadogs have nothing posted yet. tip... you kind of have to keep your head on a swivel as game times and locations can change... and be careful, you can sometimes get bad information from facility staff... alot of volunteers, who may not know exactly what is up... once drove between the reds and orioles training facilities looking for a GCL game, (when they were both in sarasota) and was like "wth, where's the game?" and after a while, someone told us they were in the major league park (Ed Smith) which was locked, but we talked our way in... nice time...
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 22, 2013 11:54:34 GMT -5
Anyone have any idea what the minor league report/workout dates are? I'm heading down to Fort Myers March 9th-15th and want to catch as many minor league games as I can. I know they play the Twins the 13-14th according to the Rochester Redwings website, but the Pawsox/Seadogs have nothing posted yet. tip... you kind of have to keep your head on a swivel as game times and locations can change... and be careful, you can sometimes get bad information from facility staff... alot of volunteers, who may not know exactly what is up... once drove between the reds and orioles training facilities looking for a GCL game, (when they were both in sarasota) and was like "wth, where's the game?" and after a while, someone told us they were in the major league park (Ed Smith) which was locked, but we talked our way in... nice time... I go to the Red Sox (minor league) games played in Sarasota. The guys on the staff (Mike, Chris, Matt, etc.) keep us up to date quite well right here. Their information has always been on target.
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Post by nhdave on Feb 23, 2013 4:24:32 GMT -5
You're so lucky... I'll be down in April for my mom's birthday... (Venice) going to catch a couple of FSL games (Bradenton and Port Charlotte) and maybe see what's going on in extended spring training.
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Post by bluechip on Feb 23, 2013 15:53:24 GMT -5
Jose Inglesias had a nice homer today.
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Post by remember04 on Feb 23, 2013 17:39:14 GMT -5
Jose Inglesias had a nice homer today. Who?
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 23, 2013 18:08:10 GMT -5
The legend of Inglesias leaves on. Iglesias can't live on Inglesias' shadow.
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Post by mattpicard on Feb 23, 2013 18:59:43 GMT -5
Sloppy throwing error and a nice bomb, just what you'd expect from Iggy right?
Lackey looked OK, loading the bases on the first 10 pitches and then getting out of it with only a sac fly. Britton was really struggling with his FB, consistently getting under it and missing way up. The breaking ball command was there though. Just thinking of some other thoughts I had during the game: - Ellsbury's arm looks even worse than usual - Nava looked pretty smooth at 1B, making some fluid plays (albeit nothing that tough) - Wilson looked great, K'ing the side (and allowing a hit), but the Rays didn't have the most competent batters facing him. - Salty had a pretty pathetic defensive showing in the 3rd, dropping a pop-up and then immediately after, firing a ball 15 feet to Middlebrooks' left into left field on a steal attempt.
Felt so nice to be watching some Sox baseball on February 23!
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Post by brianthetaoist on Feb 23, 2013 19:57:06 GMT -5
Loss. Doomed. #gamedaythread
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Post by sittingstill on Feb 23, 2013 21:54:32 GMT -5
Anyone have any idea what the minor league report/workout dates are? I'm heading down to Fort Myers March 9th-15th and want to catch as many minor league games as I can. I know they play the Twins the 13-14th according to the Rochester Redwings website, but the Pawsox/Seadogs have nothing posted yet. The PawSox have posted their spring schedule here. (I think they inadvertently buried it in the site redesign.) March 13 is the first game; before that they'll probably play intrasquad games during the time you're there. For those not familiar with the way the schedule works: right now the Sox, Twins, Rays and Orioles play in a round robin, and for each pair on a given day, if AAA/AA are home, the A teams are away.
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Post by bluechip on Feb 23, 2013 22:23:05 GMT -5
Jose Inglesias had a nice homer today. Who? They guy the iPhone autocorrects to.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 23, 2013 23:15:27 GMT -5
Loss. Doomed. #gamedaythread Lets give up and compete for Carlos Rondon with the Astros. j/k #ActuallyNotJoking
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Post by wskeleton76 on Feb 24, 2013 1:18:10 GMT -5
I am happy that Iglesias looks a lot stronger. He come to have a big league body in the end.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 24, 2013 10:08:30 GMT -5
Sloppy throwing error and a nice bomb, just what you'd expect from Iggy right? Lackey looked OK, loading the bases on the first 10 pitches and then getting out of it with only a sac fly. Britton was really struggling with his FB, consistently getting under it and missing way up. The breaking ball command was there though. Just thinking of some other thoughts I had during the game: - Ellsbury's arm looks even worse than usual - Nava looked pretty smooth at 1B, making some fluid plays (albeit nothing that tough) - Wilson looked great, K'ing the side (and allowing a hit), but the Rays didn't have the most competent batters facing him. - Salty had a pretty pathetic defensive showing in the 3rd, dropping a pop-up and then immediately after, firing a ball 15 feet to Middlebrooks' left into left field on a steal attempt. Felt so nice to be watching some Sox baseball on February 23! On the defensive stuff, keep in mind that it's the first real game of the spring. Guys are rusty and not going full speed. This is pretty normal stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:30:39 GMT -5
Salty can't play d, get on base, or call a game. All he does is run into a pitch here and there. I would trade him now while his value is high and go with lavarnway and Ross behind the plate. Lester had a 5.62 era with salty behind the dish compared to an era in the 3.70 range with shoppach and lavarnway last year. Trading salty would make the pitching staff MUCH better
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Post by remember04 on Feb 24, 2013 12:42:22 GMT -5
Salty can't play d, get on base, or call a game. All he does is run into a pitch here and there. I would trade him now while his value is high and go with lavarnway and Ross behind the plate. Lester had a 5.62 era with salty behind the dish compared to an era in the 3.70 range with shoppach and lavarnway last year. Trading salty would make the pitching staff MUCH better This And this Don't exactly go together and that's why he's still on the team.
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Post by justabitoutside on Feb 24, 2013 13:28:58 GMT -5
Just saw Youkilis first time as a Yankee. #36. (Not his age, right?)
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Post by mredsox89 on Feb 24, 2013 15:09:47 GMT -5
MFY spring training injury. Granderson fractures his forearm after being HBP, likely out until the beginning of May
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Post by mredsox89 on Feb 24, 2013 16:05:27 GMT -5
RDLR supposedly looks very good and tops out at 100 MPH in his appearance today.
Have to think that's extremely encouraging, let alone shortly after a TJ return.
Just about every day it still boggles my mind the talent BC was able to get back in Webster/RDLR in what amounted to a pure salary dump
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 24, 2013 22:07:44 GMT -5
MFY spring training injury. Granderson fractures his forearm after being HBP, likely out until the beginning of May They could be going for a top 10 draft pick in a better draft than we did. #SpringTrainingTalk
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Post by jhenrywaugh, prop. on Feb 25, 2013 11:37:45 GMT -5
As for Doubront, I can't believe that Felix thought that his best year happening in the year that he stayed in Boston training all winter is a coincidence. It's really frustrating that he wouldn't take the leap forward he made last year as motivation... Many folks reacting strongly to Abraham's report on Doubront. While I agree it's disappointing, let's not assume he's a lost cause for the season. It doesn't say good things about his motivation, but he wouldn't be the first pitcher to show up to camp in sub-optimal shape. As far as the direct impact on his performance for 2013, I wouldn't put much more stock in this than if he showed up in the "best shape of his life." The potential downside would likely be him getting injured or wearing down toward the end of the year, but that's not a given. Let's see how he performs first.
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