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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 19, 2019 19:36:21 GMT -5
Sonny Gray is gone in New York.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 19, 2019 21:20:18 GMT -5
This is annoying. Arrenado is one of the 5 best players in the sport imo.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 22, 2019 20:31:15 GMT -5
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 24, 2019 12:44:45 GMT -5
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Post by gerry on Jan 24, 2019 13:20:31 GMT -5
Baseball reference aside, what a scary, repulsive, un-Christian, website.
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Post by ramireja on Jan 24, 2019 13:40:01 GMT -5
Brad Brach to the Cubs on a 1 year, 3M deal with a mutual option for both sides in 2020. Okay, this is a deal I would have gladly pounced on...
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 24, 2019 16:21:06 GMT -5
Baseball reference aside, what a scary, repulsive, un-Christian, website. Yea, but some of the stuff is funny. Like the Onion.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 25, 2019 8:11:43 GMT -5
Brad Brach to the Cubs on a 1 year, 3M deal with a mutual option for both sides in 2020. Okay, this is a deal I would have gladly pounced on... Now being reported as one year 4.35, two years 9.5 if Cubs pick up option, if Cubs decline Brach accepts he still is under contract just at a lesser amount. So that makes a little more sense and likely gurantees Brach 6 million or more if he wants it over two years. Still a very good deal though, just not the complete steal of a deal if seemed at first.
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Post by bluechip on Jan 25, 2019 17:49:02 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 27, 2019 15:26:37 GMT -5
I kind of love this.
"He's got a little bit of Pedro in him" **Nerfball to the face**
Trying to think of a way to incorporate this into the forum.
"Player X doesn't have the fastball command he needs" "Butbut Nolan Ryan!" **Nerfball to the face**
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 27, 2019 16:45:02 GMT -5
I kind of love this. "He's got a little bit of Pedro in him" **Nerfball to the face** Trying to think of a way to incorporate this into the forum. "Player X doesn't have the fastball command he needs" "Butbut Nolan Ryan!" **Nerfball to the face** I think I'll start replying to demaineah's posts with that the next time he suggests moving Eovaldi to closer or trading JBJ.
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 27, 2019 21:45:44 GMT -5
We are having a long labor strike. Guaranteed
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 27, 2019 22:19:14 GMT -5
We are having a long labor strike. Guaranteed Ouch that's a terrible deal lol. Why did he sign that? I know the market is ridiculously slow, but relievers are getting more money than that.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jan 27, 2019 22:21:59 GMT -5
The Merrifield deal is far more a product of the system than what he "could have gotten."
Pre Arb in '19, Arb in 20-22.
Sure, he probably could have gotten more in totality by going year to year, but I'm not sure it would be THAT much more
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 27, 2019 22:25:38 GMT -5
The Merrifield deal is far more a product of the system than what he "could have gotten." Pre Arb in '19, Arb in 20-22. Sure, he probably could have gotten more in totality by going year to year, but I'm not sure it would be THAT much more Right, I forgot he was that far off free agency, my bad.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 27, 2019 22:51:23 GMT -5
The Merrifield deal is far more a product of the system than what he "could have gotten." Pre Arb in '19, Arb in 20-22. Sure, he probably could have gotten more in totality by going year to year, but I'm not sure it would be THAT much more Right, I forgot he was that far off free agency, my bad. He’s also 30 so it took him a long time to get to the majors. He didn’t give up any free agent years (although he likely won’t be cashing in for his age 34 season and beyond)... so rather than make short money this year and risk injury which would crush his career earnings he gets to cash in.
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Post by gerry on Jan 28, 2019 4:24:46 GMT -5
Man, I wish someone offered me, at age 30, a guaranteed $16M over 4 years with a chance for more. That would come to at least a half milion a year until retirement at 62. The system may be broken, but players are grateful for it’s perqs, which makes it hard to fix.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 28, 2019 7:39:28 GMT -5
The Merrifield deal is far more a product of the system than what he "could have gotten." Pre Arb in '19, Arb in 20-22. Sure, he probably could have gotten more in totality by going year to year, but I'm not sure it would be THAT much more So apparently, the deal does a have a team option to buy out one year of free agency. Merrifield must really need the money and/or he really loves KC. You can go either way if this was a good deal, but with the way free agency is trending, it might be just good enough. He essentially only took a raise in the first 2 years of the deal and he took a pay cut by the last 2 years if he keeps producing in his 30's.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 28, 2019 8:21:37 GMT -5
The Merrifield deal is far more a product of the system than what he "could have gotten." Pre Arb in '19, Arb in 20-22. Sure, he probably could have gotten more in totality by going year to year, but I'm not sure it would be THAT much more So apparently, the deal does a have a team option to buy out one year of free agency. Merrifield must really need the money and/or he really loves KC. You can go either way if this was a good deal, but with the way free agency is trending, it might be just good enough. He essentially only took a raise in the first 2 years of the deal and he took a pay cut by the last 2 years if he keeps producing in his 30's. For a 30 year old who relies on speed that’s a pretty good deal.
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Post by bluechip on Jan 28, 2019 9:41:39 GMT -5
The Merrifield deal is far more a product of the system than what he "could have gotten." Pre Arb in '19, Arb in 20-22. Sure, he probably could have gotten more in totality by going year to year, but I'm not sure it would be THAT much more So apparently, the deal does a have a team option to buy out one year of free agency. Merrifield must really need the money and/or he really loves KC. You can go either way if this was a good deal, but with the way free agency is trending, it might be just good enough. He essentially only took a raise in the first 2 years of the deal and he took a pay cut by the last 2 years if he keeps producing in his 30's. He would be 34 by the end of that deal, the same age as Dustin was in 2018. He’s a middle infielder. I think he wants certainty. Something that makes a hell of sense considering his career.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 28, 2019 10:01:42 GMT -5
It's going to be a long 3 years if everyone states there's gonna be a lockout after every single free agent signing.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 28, 2019 11:33:53 GMT -5
It's going to be a long 3 years if everyone states there's gonna be a lockout after every single free agent signing. I doubt the owners would lock out the players
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 28, 2019 11:38:13 GMT -5
A player strike would be really interesting tho. I wonder the affect it would have on attendance and fans. Hardcore fans will always be there but the last strike hurt a lot of teams. Some argue it took a crazy steroid era of exciting baseball to bring a lot of fans back. Others would probably argue they would have come back anyways. I’d say we will find out this time around but the environment has changed a lot. The internet wasn’t much of a thing back then (yes I know it existed), smart phones and texting - social media etc weren’t even invented yet. I wonder what affect a prolonged labor strike will have on the game. Can either side risk that? Will they come together on something before then?
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 28, 2019 13:02:33 GMT -5
It's going to be a long 3 years if everyone states there's gonna be a lockout after every single free agent signing. I mean what else is there to talk about?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 28, 2019 13:05:42 GMT -5
The Merrifield deal is far more a product of the system than what he "could have gotten." Pre Arb in '19, Arb in 20-22. Sure, he probably could have gotten more in totality by going year to year, but I'm not sure it would be THAT much more So apparently, the deal does a have a team option to buy out one year of free agency. Merrifield must really need the money and/or he really loves KC. You can go either way if this was a good deal, but with the way free agency is trending, it might be just good enough. He essentially only took a raise in the first 2 years of the deal and he took a pay cut by the last 2 years if he keeps producing in his 30's. For all the talk of the weakness of the free agent market, it seems to me that what the player's union should really be gunning for is A) a greatly increased league minimum salary and B) expanded rosters. Take the guys riding the AAA shuttle or the phantom DL and give them real MLB jobs higher base salary. Get more players to free agency sooner, partly by simply increasing the amount of service time that's available, and by giving them less of a reason to sign these team-friendly deals. And, the gains from this plan would go to players that actually need them in a more real way than the Harpers and Machados of the world. It's not that uncommon for guys to play ten-plus years in pro ball and maybe see parts of two or three MLB seasons during that time. For players like that, increasing the base salary really would make a difference in their lives that isn't just about how many fancy cars they get to own. AND, on top of that, teams would probably be more willing to spend a little in free agency if the alternative wasn't getting a bunch of pre-arb guys to play essentially for free.
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