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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 25, 2018 16:19:18 GMT -5
The linked article does not say that "just a little bit more" would have gotten Kluber or Bauer. It says that the Yankees talked to the Indians about Kluber, Carrasco and Bauer and that presumably, the Indians could have gotten the Sheffield et al package if they wanted to, but they presumably wanted more. It doesn't say anything about how much more. That's true, but if I was the Yankees, I would have included more and got one of those guys. The Yankees would have been flat out scary with Bauer or Kluber. Thank you to Cashman really. The Indians would have wanted a lot more
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 25, 2018 17:31:37 GMT -5
Just the thought of "Trevor Bauer of the New York Yankees" makes me exhausted. For the mental health of Bauer, the Yankees, and of everyone who watches baseball ever, let's keep them apart.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 26, 2018 7:24:48 GMT -5
Just the thought of "Trevor Bauer of the New York Yankees" makes me exhausted. For the mental health of Bauer, the Yankees, and of everyone who watches baseball ever, let's keep them apart. I don’t know; would be good for baseball for a character like him to be in the spotlight that is NYC.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 26, 2018 14:31:23 GMT -5
First shock and awe signing of the offseason potentially.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 26, 2018 14:34:37 GMT -5
Guess Donaldson couldn't find a multiyear deal with a opt out anywhere.
Glad he's out of the division, but Vlad's son is coming to replace Donaldson, so that's scary.
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Post by mobaz on Nov 26, 2018 14:44:32 GMT -5
$23M for one year per Rosenthal. Best pillow contract ever?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 26, 2018 14:45:01 GMT -5
First shock and awe signing of the offseason potentially. It was an expensive "pillow" contract signing for Donaldson at 23 million. Speaking of reuniting, the busy Braves also reunited with Brian McCann, although I don't think it was mentioned yet for how much. It's 1 year for McCann as well. And as mentioned elsewhere Cron was claimed by the Twins who need to replace Joe Mauer.
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 26, 2018 14:53:25 GMT -5
Love that deal for the Braves. Folks had been thinking Donaldson would get something in the $60/3 year range this offseason.
I'll note that he turns 33 next week. If he has a productive and healthy 2019 season, reestablishing himself as a 4+ WAR player, what kind of contract do we think he gets next ofseason? I find it surprising he went the pillow route rather than cashing in on a multi-year deal. With a great 2019, will he even get $75/3, if that, considering he'll be 34 with a history of injuries (and declining defense)?
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 26, 2018 14:55:17 GMT -5
Love that deal for the Braves. Folks had been thinking Donaldson would get something in the $60/3 year range this offseason. I'll note that he turns 33 next week. If he has a productive and healthy 2019 season, reestablishing himself as a 4+ WAR player, what kind of contract do we think he gets next ofseason? I find it surprising he went the pillow route rather than cashing in on a multi-year deal. With a great 2019, will he even get $75/3, if that, considering he'll be 34 with a history of injuries (and declining defense)? No he’s not getting a deal more then 2 years for the rest of his career; unless someone gets stupid trying to save their job
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 26, 2018 15:05:11 GMT -5
Love that deal for the Braves. Folks had been thinking Donaldson would get something in the $60/3 year range this offseason. I'll note that he turns 33 next week. If he has a productive and healthy 2019 season, reestablishing himself as a 4+ WAR player, what kind of contract do we think he gets next ofseason? I find it surprising he went the pillow route rather than cashing in on a multi-year deal. With a great 2019, will he even get $75/3, if that, considering he'll be 34 with a history of injuries (and declining defense)? I mean, $23 million is a hell of a pillow. Donaldson is going to know his health better than anyone else. If he wasn't right last year and feels right now, getting a really strong one-year deal on a contender before hitting free agency is a good way to go.
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 26, 2018 15:06:35 GMT -5
Love that deal for the Braves. Folks had been thinking Donaldson would get something in the $60/3 year range this offseason. I'll note that he turns 33 next week. If he has a productive and healthy 2019 season, reestablishing himself as a 4+ WAR player, what kind of contract do we think he gets next ofseason? I find it surprising he went the pillow route rather than cashing in on a multi-year deal. With a great 2019, will he even get $75/3, if that, considering he'll be 34 with a history of injuries (and declining defense)? I mean, $23 million is a hell of a pillow. No doubt. Tempurpedic-status.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 26, 2018 15:08:49 GMT -5
More of a feather pillow man myself but I shan't judge.
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Post by Guidas on Nov 26, 2018 16:29:29 GMT -5
Love that deal for the Braves. Folks had been thinking Donaldson would get something in the $60/3 year range this offseason. I'll note that he turns 33 next week. If he has a productive and healthy 2019 season, reestablishing himself as a 4+ WAR player, what kind of contract do we think he gets next ofseason? I find it surprising he went the pillow route rather than cashing in on a multi-year deal. With a great 2019, will he even get $75/3, if that, considering he'll be 34 with a history of injuries (and declining defense)? I mean, $23 million is a hell of a pillow. Donaldson is going to know his health better than anyone else. If he wasn't right last year and feels right now, getting a really strong one-year deal on a contender before hitting free agency is a good way to go. Will be interesting to see if the AAV is an aberration or indicative of spending to come. Donaldson has an impressive body of work but that's a ton of cash for a guy who was injured for 2/3s of games this year. I was thinking a pillow deal for him would be in the $9-13M range. Obviously there's a premium for striking early, but this is still a large percentage of Atlanta's payroll.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 26, 2018 16:41:02 GMT -5
I mean, $23 million is a hell of a pillow. Donaldson is going to know his health better than anyone else. If he wasn't right last year and feels right now, getting a really strong one-year deal on a contender before hitting free agency is a good way to go. Will be interesting to see if the AAV is an aberration or indicative of spending to come. Donaldson has an impressive body of work but that's a ton of cash for a guy who was injured for 2/3s of games this year. I was thinking a pillow deal for him would be in the $9-13M range. Obviously there's a premium for striking early, but this is still a large percentage of Atlanta's payroll. Yea but it’s one year and the type of deal a young team with cheap contracts dole out. He’s a potential big impact for 2019, but less likely after that. It’s also less likely they need him.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 26, 2018 17:04:44 GMT -5
First shock and awe signing of the offseason potentially. It was an expensive "pillow" contract signing for Donaldson at 23 million. Speaking of reuniting, the busy Braves also reunited with Brian McCann, although I don't think it was mentioned yet for how much. It's 1 year for McCann as well. And as mentioned elsewhere Cron was claimed by the Twins who need to replace Joe Mauer. I meant shock and awe as in, the first shocking signing of the offseason. First dominoe to fall kind of thing.
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Post by soxfan50 on Nov 26, 2018 17:28:09 GMT -5
Will the Red Sox make a big move before or during the winter meetings!? I say before.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 27, 2018 5:54:59 GMT -5
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Post by geostorm on Nov 27, 2018 8:17:54 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 27, 2018 8:35:53 GMT -5
I also think that the Braves have their eyes set on Nolan Arrenado in free agency in a year. Signing Josh Donaldson to only a one year deal opens up the possibility of making a monster offer in the 2019 offseason for Arrenado.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 27, 2018 8:40:15 GMT -5
Interesting new site: Barton Smith @notrealcertain I have made a web page to discuss our findings on baseball aerodynamics. Please have a look. Comments appreciated. www.baseballaero.com .
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Post by dd on Nov 27, 2018 13:05:01 GMT -5
Interesting new site: Barton Smith @notrealcertain I have made a web page to discuss our findings on baseball aerodynamics. Please have a look. Comments appreciated. www.baseballaero.com . That's a great picture of a knuckle ball breaking right and then left! Edit: BTW, that's R. A. Dickey striking out Will Rhymes in Tampa on 6/13/12. Dickey had 12 K's in an 8 inning CG with 0ER 1H 0BB for his 10th win. Loser was David Price. :-)
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Post by Addam603 on Nov 27, 2018 16:05:43 GMT -5
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Post by patford on Nov 27, 2018 22:54:33 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 28, 2018 8:58:58 GMT -5
Instead of packaging Cano to take him off the books, the Mariners should just pay him his money and trade their valuable assets for better prospects.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 28, 2018 9:04:18 GMT -5
I feel if there's pressure to move a contract, that the pressure is coming from ownership to move Cano. If they need to move money that badly, then the prospects might be less valuable to them right now.
The Mariners have been a mess for years now. They've been just barely missing the playoffs or been bad in general. One of the worst run teams in the 21rst century arguably.
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