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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 3, 2019 23:17:54 GMT -5
There is a lot to be said for family mentors. Being Carlos Beltran's nephew means he will get extra guidance and he knows what can happen from hard work and a higher level of commitment. Solid pick. Kind of a surprise he wasn't already gone.
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Post by dirtdog on Jun 3, 2019 23:19:25 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 3, 2019 23:21:23 GMT -5
Holding out hope Cronin falls to us in the third tomorrow like Feltman did. Yeah, I wasn't in love with him in the 2nd (where I saw him mocked by FG at one point), but I'd be cool with him in the third. Cannon feels like the kind of dude who could get to Double-A by the end of next year. The thing he does best is waiting out his pitch and then just ripping it into the left-center gap, and that's the sort of thing that low-to-mid minors pitching is very susceptible to. I like the pick.
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Post by ramireja on Jun 3, 2019 23:23:58 GMT -5
A couple picks away....I'm most intrigued by one of the HS shortstops if signable. Would be fine with Strumpf, Cannon, or Quintana too. What I meant to say before our first pick was that I'd like to draft one of the HS shortstops (Lugo) AND Cannon.
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Post by southcoastsox on Jun 3, 2019 23:32:16 GMT -5
Interesting pick. Hope he turns out better than the last Red Sox SS named Lugo. haha! Let's also hope he turns out better than the last relative of Carlos Beltran the Sox drafted.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 3, 2019 23:36:18 GMT -5
Interesting pick. Hope he turns out better than the last Red Sox SS named Lugo. haha! Let's also hope he turns out better than the last relative of Carlos Beltran the Sox drafted. Please refresh my memory. Who was that?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 3, 2019 23:37:04 GMT -5
Holding out hope Cronin falls to us in the third tomorrow like Feltman did. Yeah, I wasn't in love with him in the 2nd (where I saw him mocked by FG at one point), but I'd be cool with him in the third. Cannon feels like the kind of dude who could get to Double-A by the end of next year. The thing he does best is waiting out his pitch and then just ripping it into the left-center gap, and that's the sort of thing that low-to-mid minors pitching is very susceptible to. I like the pick. Yeah, third round is the prime spot to get reliever savings to start building towards the Northcuts and Howletts of the draft.
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Post by orion09 on Jun 3, 2019 23:39:21 GMT -5
Let's also hope he turns out better than the last relative of Carlos Beltran the Sox drafted. Please refresh my memory. Who was that? Reymond Fuentes, 1st round pick in 2009.
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Post by ramireja on Jun 3, 2019 23:47:40 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 3, 2019 23:52:04 GMT -5
Please refresh my memory. Who was that? Reymond Fuentes, 1st round pick in 2009. Ah, forgot all about that one. Thanks. Honestly all I remember was not being too excited about the Fuentes pick. I remember thinking it could be this person or that person or....and then it was like....who?? I really like the Lugo pick. He's a project and his ability to stay SS would be huge. The thing is that the Red Sox have the time to develop him. If anybody is going to dislodge Bogaerts from SS over the next three or four years I'd anticipate that it would be Antoni Flores doing that and if so we'll see where Lugo is by then in his development. I'm not against the Cannon pick. I was more intrigued by Strumpf, but Cannon just might be the best 2b prospect the Sox have in the farm system beyond Chavis playing 2b. Cannon has a good batting eye which I think gives him an edge over what I think Chatham will be. If the hit tool is pretty good then perhaps they have a Marty Barrett type at 2b? A Barrett with a better ability to draw walks anyways? I suspect the Sox will take a quick moving reliever like Cronin with the 3rd pick although Cronin might not be around for their next pick. I would anticipate a relief pitcher in the next round anyways.
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Post by dirtdog on Jun 3, 2019 23:55:48 GMT -5
Second Round (No. 43 Overall): Cameron Cannon, SS, Arizona Cannon fits the classic "grinder" profile, and he has steadily improved since the Diamondbacks took him out of high school in the 21st round of the 2016 draft. He doesn't have much power and is limited athletically, but he can hit line drives to all fields and makes consistent hard contact. He can play on both sides of second base, though he may ultimately land in a utility role. Grade: D I like Cannon a lot, but I hate this fit. The Red Sox system is extremely thin on high-ceiling talent, and Cannon is all floor and no ceiling. bleacherreport.com/articles/2839264-2019-mlb-draft-picks-live-team-by-team-day-1-grades-and-analysis#slide30
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Post by orion09 on Jun 3, 2019 23:56:35 GMT -5
Well hmm. Cannon went to Arizona, not Arizona St. Funny enough, according to Speier, the last time the Red Sox didn't pick until the second round was in 2004, when they used that pick on... Dustin Pedroia.
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Post by Coreno on Jun 4, 2019 0:03:01 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Jun 4, 2019 0:17:44 GMT -5
I saw Keith Law tweet that this was a "nice pick" and I got happy for a second... until I got the joke. (Honestly though - it's a nice pick!)
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jun 4, 2019 0:37:07 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Jun 4, 2019 1:01:12 GMT -5
A couple picks away....I'm most intrigued by one of the HS shortstops if signable. Would be fine with Strumpf, Cannon, or Quintana too. What I meant to say before our first pick was that I'd like to draft one of the HS shortstops (Lugo) AND Cannon. Cannon seems like a good bet to hit; we’ll see if he develops some power. Like James said, he seems like a guy who will feast on lower-level pitching, because his selectivity and bat-to-ball skills are quite good. I read somewhere he's a potential swing-change to involve his legs a lot more, so maybe they work with him and those gappers start going over the wall. Hell, Bregman was supposed to be a 15-HR guy in MLB. I think getting Lugo at 69 is an absolute coup. If he signs, they basically got their fist-round talent and a guy who I’d’ve been very happy with at their original 33 spot.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 4, 2019 1:04:17 GMT -5
Well hmm. Cannon went to Arizona, not Arizona St. Funny enough, according to Speier, the last time the Red Sox didn't pick until the second round was in 2004, when they used that pick on... Dustin Pedroia. I was thinking the same.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 4, 2019 4:07:46 GMT -5
Initial reactions from me is that I hope Cannon is a underslot.
The very few things you can pick on the Sox organizationally with devloping players the last few years is the guys "who can hit and who might be able to tap into more power later types."
The Sox have had 3 prospects like that who comes to mind. The 3 prospects drafted in the last 5 years who's got that profile and failed to hit or hit for power are Netzer, Catham, and Sam Travis. 2 of the players in Netzer and Travis don't seem like major league quality players. Catham seems like maybe a backup infielder at best. Eerily, these players have been selected right around the same time of each draft too.
I hope Cannon is the Pedrioa, however.
This draft will be tied around the success of Lugo most likely. I don't think the Sox have *drafted* a middle infielder with tools like him in a long while.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jun 4, 2019 5:33:27 GMT -5
Cannon will look a lot better in a few years when baseball realizes that its 3 basic outcomes game continues to kill fan interest, deadens the baseball some to depress HR's, and line drives/XBH and putting the ball in play consistently become more important in the game again.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 4, 2019 6:34:47 GMT -5
Interesting pick. Hope he turns out better than the last Red Sox SS named Lugo. haha! World Series winner Lugo?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 6:40:08 GMT -5
A future utilityman, eh? Well, that's not super exciting, but then, it was the 43rd pick. Am looking forward to us picking a Mookie Betts-caliber player by the 5th round though. That happens in most drafts, right?No, it really doesn't. It absolutely does not. I'm not saying we can write off all the day 2 and day 3 picks, but it really doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 6:41:44 GMT -5
He was projected in a lot of mocks to go toward the end of Round 1 or the sandwich round. I was starting to wonder if he's signable at this stage in the 2nd round....here's to hoping he is! The Sox' first two picks make more sense if they were reversed. I'd imagine Cannon signs for under slot and Lugo for over slot.
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Post by lancect on Jun 4, 2019 6:57:46 GMT -5
The way Cannon is being described reminds me of how Kolbrin Vitek was talked about, and Yelich was picked three picks later
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 4, 2019 7:04:28 GMT -5
I want to be disappointed they didn’t draft a high upside arm with the cannon pick but even if one were available this organization seems to suck at developing them so what’s really the point in that spot?
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Post by radiohix on Jun 4, 2019 7:18:27 GMT -5
A future utilityman, eh? Well, that's not super exciting, but then, it was the 43rd pick. Am looking forward to us picking a Mookie Betts-caliber player by the 5th round though. That happens in most drafts, right?No, it really doesn't. It absolutely does not. I'm not saying we can write off all the day 2 and day 3 picks, but it really doesn't. Your sarcasm detector is off today it seems 😉
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