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Post by patford on May 5, 2021 16:22:37 GMT -5
video timed contact to 1B: 3.88 seconds Just so folks know, 3.90 is 80 speed. So has he not lost a half step? Or was he 90 speed previously.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 5, 2021 16:40:44 GMT -5
The reports we got had him turning in 70 times at Instructs.
(although, fwiw, I think he was turning in "90" times in Lowell, so... possible that's actually slower for him)
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Post by unitspin on May 5, 2021 17:03:04 GMT -5
Man, I hope he develops how we all think he should. It will be a treat watching him steal bags in the bigs. The c.f. of the future, with that speed nothing should get by him.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 5, 2021 17:24:40 GMT -5
Nicknames gotta be “Flash”
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Post by sarasoxer on May 5, 2021 20:58:05 GMT -5
If this kid can turn his frame into game power he’s going to be an absolute problem. So far that's a big if I think. No question that he has speed and a powerful build. But, to date, very little in game power especially from the left side where he appears a slap type hitter. Still, if he can garner a good number of leg hits, he could be valuable.
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 21, 2021 1:10:14 GMT -5
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Post by sarasoxer on May 21, 2021 7:36:51 GMT -5
Cool! Thanks... Jimenez does look like a slapper tho...surprisingly with that strong body... The center fielder was playing him awfully shallow.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 21, 2021 8:24:24 GMT -5
We're hearing his exit velocities are better this year than the concerning numbers he had in Lowell, but still, he's going to need to have a near-Madrigal-level control of the strike zone and hit tool to make this approach work in the majors, although the speed certainly helps.
It's an interesting question how Juan Pierre looks in the modern MLB lineup.
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Post by cdj on May 21, 2021 8:52:16 GMT -5
I was about to say is that Juan Pierre lol
Looks very slappy but I’m fascinated wondering how he’d play in this era
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Post by patford on May 21, 2021 8:57:52 GMT -5
We're hearing his exit velocities are better this year than the concerning numbers he had in Lowell, but still, he's going to need to have a near-Madrigal-level control of the strike zone and hit tool to make this approach work in the majors, although the speed certainly helps. It's an interesting question how Juan Pierre looks in the modern MLB lineup. If he's going to use that slap the ball approach then they may as well fast track him and move him up to Portland. The purpose (I'd thought) of keeping him in A ball was so he could develop his new approach which he seemed to abandon in Spring Training.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 21, 2021 8:58:28 GMT -5
His whole stat line is interesting. Through 59 at-bats, he's barely striking out (6) or walking (3). Looks like he's just trying to put the ball in play and seeing what happens.
He's also almost half way to his 2B total from 2019 (11 in 2019 - 5 so far in 2021).
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Post by julyanmorley on May 21, 2021 9:38:20 GMT -5
Juan Pierre put up 16 WAR before he reached free agency. Developing him would be a massive win.
I'm a believer as long as Jimenez isn't striking out.
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Post by patford on May 21, 2021 10:03:43 GMT -5
His whole stat line is interesting. Through 59 at-bats, he's barely striking out (6) or walking (3). Looks like he's just trying to put the ball in play and seeing what happens. He's also almost half way to his 2B total from 2019 (11 in 2019 - 5 so far in 2021). I wonder what he is hearing from the Sox? I have the feeling he got excited to be with the major league club in ST and began doing what he could to impact games. So in a sense that may have hurt him as to the development of his power. His bat to ball skills are so good that I wonder if he could be counseled to be aggressive and try to jump on a pitch early in an AB and then revert to the ball in play approach if he's down a strike or two?
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 21, 2021 10:06:46 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on May 21, 2021 10:19:51 GMT -5
His whole stat line is interesting. Through 59 at-bats, he's barely striking out (6) or walking (3). Looks like he's just trying to put the ball in play and seeing what happens. He's also almost half way to his 2B total from 2019 (11 in 2019 - 5 so far in 2021). He's hitting the ball with a lot more authority.
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Post by patford on May 21, 2021 10:47:06 GMT -5
His whole stat line is interesting. Through 59 at-bats, he's barely striking out (6) or walking (3). Looks like he's just trying to put the ball in play and seeing what happens. He's also almost half way to his 2B total from 2019 (11 in 2019 - 5 so far in 2021). He's hitting the ball with a lot more authority. The three balls he hit in the clip were all hit pretty hard. None of it was cheap.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 21, 2021 10:49:44 GMT -5
He's hitting the ball with a lot more authority. The three balls he hit in the clip were all hit pretty hard. None of it was cheap. Here's a longer clip that Red Sox Stats put together:
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Post by ramireja on May 21, 2021 11:07:21 GMT -5
Moved this great content and convo here before it gets moved to the gameday graveyards!
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Post by cdj on May 21, 2021 12:40:45 GMT -5
Really uncomfortable to pitch with guys like him on base. He’s going to put a ton of stress on pitchers
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Post by patford on May 21, 2021 13:12:18 GMT -5
Really uncomfortable to pitch with guys like him on base. He’s going to put a ton of stress on pitchers He would also be very valuable (arguably right now) in those man on 3rd and less than two outs situations.
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Post by Coreno on May 21, 2021 13:29:23 GMT -5
We're hearing his exit velocities are better this year than the concerning numbers he had in Lowell, but still, he's going to need to have a near-Madrigal-level control of the strike zone and hit tool to make this approach work in the majors, although the speed certainly helps. It's an interesting question how Juan Pierre looks in the modern MLB lineup. If he's going to use that slap the ball approach then they may as well fast track him and move him up to Portland. The purpose (I'd thought) of keeping him in A ball was so he could develop his new approach which he seemed to abandon in Spring Training. It would be very surprising if he gets more than a cup of coffee in Portland this season.
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Post by voiceofreason on May 21, 2021 13:37:50 GMT -5
If he's going to use that slap the ball approach then they may as well fast track him and move him up to Portland. The purpose (I'd thought) of keeping him in A ball was so he could develop his new approach which he seemed to abandon in Spring Training. It would be very surprising if he gets more than a cup of coffee in Portland this season. How so? Duran moves up and then Rosario to AAA and Gilberto to AA if they all keep doing what they have so far they deserve it. Another month or so of continued performance and letter rip. Why hold them back?
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Post by ramireja on May 21, 2021 13:41:44 GMT -5
It would be very surprising if he gets more than a cup of coffee in Portland this season. How so? Duran moves up and then Rosario to AAA and Gilberto to AA if they all keep doing what they have so far they deserve it. Another month or so of continued performance and letter rip. Why hold them back? Gilberto is currently in Low-A.
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Post by voiceofreason on May 21, 2021 14:01:40 GMT -5
How so? Duran moves up and then Rosario to AAA and Gilberto to AA if they all keep doing what they have so far they deserve it. Another month or so of continued performance and letter rip. Why hold them back? Gilberto is currently in Low-A. Thanks, my bad. Well he shouldn't be there for long.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 21, 2021 16:11:40 GMT -5
Gilberto is currently in Low-A. Thanks, my bad. Well he shouldn't be there for long. Salem was a somewhat conservative assignment, and it's not like he's blocked. I could see him in Greenville midyear. But yeah, Portland is aggressive. That said, nobody his age who was in Lowell in 2019 went up to Greenville - the guys who skipped Salem were college guys like Cannon, Murphy, Bandy, YPA, Cellucci, Spacke, Wallace, and Bryant.
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