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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 10, 2020 20:31:59 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 10, 2020 20:32:33 GMT -5
Rays go with Bitsko. Yipes.
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Post by cdj on Jun 10, 2020 20:33:30 GMT -5
It’s not all that dissimilar to the IFA strategy where they load up on 6 figure guys and don’t use a significant portion of their pool in one place.
Honestly with other sports it would be a dumb strategy but the MLB draft is so much different than the others that it makes sense to do with amateur baseball talent
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 10, 2020 20:33:48 GMT -5
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Post by alnipper on Jun 10, 2020 20:34:40 GMT -5
BA's write up: Some evaluators believe Yorke is the best pure hitter on the west coast, among high schoolers. A 6-foot, 195-pound shortstop committed to Arizona, Yorke has a long track record of performing as a high schooler, with a well-balanced swing that’s routinely on time. This spring before the coronavirus shut down the 2020 season, Yorke was tapping into a bit more power as well, hitting the ball with authority to the pull side and up the middle. He has a chance for a future plus bat and fringe-average power while handling a middle infield spot. Yorke dealt with a shoulder injury prior to his junior year and is still recovering from that, which leads some scouts to believe he’ll be a better fit as an offensive second baseman. Still, other scouts have said his arm has looked good, with a better arm stroke recently and above-average arm strength. With solid footwork, instincts and an internal clock, he has a chance to stay at shortstop, or he could slide to third base. Wherever he ends up defensively, teams love the bat that Yorke brings to the table. There are a number of teams that have Yorke evaluated in the second- or third-round range, but he could be a difficult sign out of Arizona. Not a first round talent. He's not. He's a reach obviously. Underslot signing for sure. What is the success rate of an average major league player after the first round? Add to that sign ability issues, no position flexibility, and I doubt rounds 3-5 are so deep in talent(3rd yes). Draft a College senor next time. I'm not a fan of the "I hope" these guys we also like are available in rounds 3-5. I just saw Ian's tweet about with no 2nd round pick you have to get creative. Why? Sign 4 players roughly at slot. Why gamble with a first round pick? It reminds me of when we drafted Cannon.
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Post by philarhody on Jun 10, 2020 20:36:21 GMT -5
So far the AL East has drafted Kerstadt, Austin Martin, Nick Bitsko, and Nick Yorke
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Post by alnipper on Jun 10, 2020 20:36:32 GMT -5
Rays go with Bitsko. Yipes. The Rays may have their future ace. Yankees will be next.
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Post by kman22 on Jun 10, 2020 20:36:51 GMT -5
Bitsko, Martin, and Kjerstad all drafted in the division. Yikes.
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Post by agastonguay13 on Jun 10, 2020 20:37:46 GMT -5
After my initial gnashing of teeth, and if they do in fact save a large chunk of money here, I guess it's not a horrible strategy. If they didn't like anybody who wanted slot at 17, mix it up and change 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round talents into 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, and 4th round talents? Maybe better depending on just how much they will save here.
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Post by chr31ter on Jun 10, 2020 20:38:03 GMT -5
theathletic.com/1865717/2020/06/10/nick-yorke-scouting-report/“Doesn’t matter if the guy is throwing 75-80 miles an hour or the guy is throwing 100 miles an hour, he’s always on it and ready to hit,” Ozella said. “If teams had seen him all season, people would probably be talking about him as a comp round type of player. A lot of upside,” Ozella said. “He can play shortstop, he can play second base. He can play center field. He can play wherever you need him.”
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Post by chr31ter on Jun 10, 2020 20:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on Jun 10, 2020 20:41:58 GMT -5
After my initial gnashing of teeth, and if they do in fact save a large chunk of money here, I guess it's not a horrible strategy. If they didn't like anybody who wanted slot at 17, mix it up and change 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round talents into 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, and 4th round talents? Maybe better depending on just how much they will save here. ...and that might be conservative...we'll see. I think they have a chance to land 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, and 3rd round talents.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 10, 2020 20:42:18 GMT -5
RE: Nick Yorke, the Red Sox apparently have an underslot deal done with him that will save them "quite a bit of money" according to one source. Yorke is an athletic middle infielder who can hit and is certainly a good player, just most saw him as a 2nd-4th round talent.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jun 10, 2020 20:44:37 GMT -5
Someone explain this to me: I understand that if the RS don't sign Yorke, they'll get pick no. 18 in the 2021 draft. But what happens to the $3.6M they had available to sign pick no. 17 in this draft? Do they get to spread that money around to their 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks?
If that's the case, this might start to make some sense.
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Post by philarhody on Jun 10, 2020 20:45:07 GMT -5
Yeah, We all understand he’s underrated for a third round pick. The question is does he sign for 1.5 million under slot. Because no other team was drafting this guy for the next 50 or 60 picks.
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Post by Coreno on Jun 10, 2020 20:47:09 GMT -5
I'll go on record as saying this is actually a great move if they can get 4 major leaguers out of this draft
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Post by ramireja on Jun 10, 2020 20:47:10 GMT -5
Someone explain this to me: I understand that if the RS don't sign Yorke, they'll get pick no. 18 in the 2021 draft. But what happens to the $3.6M they had available to sign pick no. 17 in this draft? Do they get to spread that money around to their 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks? If that's the case, this might start to make some sense. If Yorke doesn't sign, they lose the slot money for this year but gain a pick next year (assuming their offer to him is above a certain threshold). That said, it appears as though they've agreed on an underslot bonus. I think thats the only way he gets drafted there.
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Post by caseytins on Jun 10, 2020 20:48:26 GMT -5
Someone explain this to me: I understand that if the RS don't sign Yorke, they'll get pick no. 18 in the 2021 draft. But what happens to the $3.6M they had available to sign pick no. 17 in this draft? Do they get to spread that money around to their 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks? If that's the case, this might start to make some sense. They have a deal with him. He will sign for about $2 million and they are focusing on pitching for their next three picks.
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Post by juanpena on Jun 10, 2020 20:49:56 GMT -5
The worst part is the long wait between picks which is why I did not like this strategy. They also left pretty good players on the table ugh this reminds me of Ryan Dent. He seems like the exact opposite of Ryan Dent. The Sox liked Dent's athleticism and hoped they could make a hitter out of him. That's really hard, and obviously it didn't work in Dent's case. If Yorke is not a toolsy guy, he apparently has the best tool to have.
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Post by tyler3 on Jun 10, 2020 20:57:12 GMT -5
They better not pay him 2 million. Where he was ranked to me, the reason the Sox picked this guy is that he agreed to something super low....I mean of all the guys to take under slot, what set this guy apart had to be his willingness to take something super low. That had better be it. I mean ..,.., Jesus
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Jun 10, 2020 20:58:49 GMT -5
Any idea of "tough signs" the Red Sox could be targeting? I will accept this strategy if they can get 4 top 120 players with upside but I don't think there will be many of those guys in this abbreviated draft. Yorke also had a good shot to be there at pick 89. I'd rather have Mitchell or PCA then draft 3 college players. Red Sox are the only team employing this strategy so far...we'll see how it unfolds tomorrow but I'm disappointed tonight
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Post by cdj on Jun 10, 2020 21:00:04 GMT -5
Not that anybody really knows anything most years but this year nobody REALLY knows anything. They barely played. A lot of this draft is going to be projection
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Post by shoosh77 on Jun 10, 2020 21:01:10 GMT -5
Been a spell since I’ve posted here.
It’s unconventional, but so is 2020 and also being without a second round pick. With only 4 picks in 5 rounds, I like the (presumed) strategy. Try something different to maximize your potential haul.
Feels like they had an either or set up, either a big ticket 1st rounder (that prob got snatched ahead of them) or someone with tool you feel is elite ready to sign for a fraction of slot so you can splash later. I like it. No risk no reward.
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Jun 10, 2020 21:02:21 GMT -5
Reminds me of last yr with Cannon when we all thought it was a reach and must be an underslot deal only to see they paid him full slot. I bet Yorke gets paid over 2 million and we are all scratching our heads again this yr
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Post by nomar on Jun 10, 2020 21:08:21 GMT -5
Reminds me of last yr with Cannon when we all thought it was a reach and must be an underslot deal only to see they paid him full slot. I bet Yorke gets paid over 2 million and we are all scratching our heads again this yr Cannon has only played like 40 games but that pick has somehow looked even worse than it did on draft day. The strikeouts in Lowell with his lack of power, big yikes. Maybe they’ll pull something crazy off tomorrow, but I doubt it too. Oh well, hope they’re right about this kid
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