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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 11, 2021 10:05:07 GMT -5
Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats ((about 8 a.m.)) Baseball America, Gammons, and Callis now all mentioning Rocker in play for the Rangers at #2. Callis stuck with Leiter going 2nd in their new mock this morning but said he’s trying to get to the Red Sox. Davis still feeling most likely. mlb.com/pipelineThis is exactly where the Leiter strategy to price himself out of the top three comes in. If the Rangers see Rocker and Leiter as pretty similar and one asks for #1 money and the other asks for #3 or #4 money, that makes their decision easier. Of course, you then get Leiter to the Tigers...
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 11, 2021 10:10:15 GMT -5
Said it in the other thread and i will say here. Everyone has Mayer going number one due to talent, but the Pirates pick is going to come down to price from those same people. If that is the case why would Mayer take a discount. If he slips, the worse case for him is Detroit at #3 where he can make 7.2M. With the Rangers, he can make 7.8M. If FanGraphs is correct, and its Mayer and Davis, Davis can give the Pirates a 1.4M dollar discount and make 400k more than he would in Boston. I was thinking this the moment Kiley said something like "the Pirates are listening to offers and will take the one with best value". I don't get why everyone is so sure about Mayer going first I had Davis going 1-1 for exactly this reason in my mock a few days ago. Mayer dropping to DET is probably the only way that BOS winds up with Leiter.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 11, 2021 10:10:22 GMT -5
A few of the most recent mocks say that the Tigers definitely have Leiter in the picture, so I wouldn't write them off yet.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 11, 2021 10:12:38 GMT -5
I live in Taiwan, too. The draft starts at 07:00 AM Taiwan time. I guess the red sox pick around 07:15. Woah really? Anyways, thanks guys Some recent survey had Taiwan as the best country for US expats to live in. Thoughts?
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jul 11, 2021 10:13:00 GMT -5
I’m expecting a wild first few picks and the Red Sox end up with someone that hasn’t even been mentioned to them like Will Taylor.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 11, 2021 10:31:07 GMT -5
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 11, 2021 10:41:15 GMT -5
I wonder what Toboni and the FO think of Rocker. Maybe it’s just an adjustment on his mechanics. I guess Jobe is getting some play. .I really want a future ace. Leiter needs to do his job and scare Texas.
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Post by jmanny24 on Jul 11, 2021 10:53:28 GMT -5
I am probably on a bit of an island but I don't want Davis even if he's there and Leiter is gone. With the team picking this high I am leery of a C that isn't a Mauer, Posey, Adley? type and not guaranteed to stay behind the plate, thus losing a bit of value being (just) a solid corner player. I just want them to swing for the fences and go for broke when they have the chance. I don't dislike Davis I just want to aim higher with the No. 4
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Post by threeifbaerga on Jul 11, 2021 10:55:33 GMT -5
I don't dislike Davis I just want to aim higher with the No. 4 "He'll be good if they change the rules" doesn't inspire confidence at 4.
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Post by jlechan on Jul 11, 2021 11:00:03 GMT -5
Agree 100%. If Leiter isn’t there, I want one of the prep shortstops. I am probably on a bit of an island but I don't want Davis even if he's there and Leiter is gone. With the team picking this high I am leery of a C that isn't a Mauer, Posey, Adley? type and not guaranteed to stay behind the plate, thus losing a bit of value being (just) a solid corner player. I just want them to swing for the fences and go for broke when they have the chance. I don't dislike Davis I just want to aim higher with the No. 4
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 11, 2021 11:13:08 GMT -5
Agree 100%. If Leiter isn’t there, I want one of the prep shortstops. I am probably on a bit of an island but I don't want Davis even if he's there and Leiter is gone. With the team picking this high I am leery of a C that isn't a Mauer, Posey, Adley? type and not guaranteed to stay behind the plate, thus losing a bit of value being (just) a solid corner player. I just want them to swing for the fences and go for broke when they have the chance. I don't dislike Davis I just want to aim higher with the No. 4 I've been on that island all along. Davis is "athlectic enough to play corner OF" the refrain goes -- so was Hanley.
If no Leiter, give me a SS (I think I'm on Lawlar now), Cowser as an under slot, or Rocker if the price is right. Looking forward to seeing who it will be and if it's Davis, I'll still love him as though he were my newborn child...
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Post by radiohix on Jul 11, 2021 11:13:48 GMT -5
I’m expecting a wild first few picks and the Red Sox end up with someone that hasn’t even been mentioned to them like Will Taylor. That's hilarious 'cause I was thinking "what would be the out of left field pick for the Sox" this morning and Will Taylor was the first name that came to my mind 😂😂
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Post by alan on Jul 11, 2021 11:13:56 GMT -5
Woah really? Anyways, thanks guys Some recent survey had Taiwan as the best country for US expats to live in. Thoughts?
Wow that's shocking. I mean it's a pretty good place to live in, food is great, but it's always my dream to live in Boston. You know what's also my dream? Jack Leiter falling to the Red Sox
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Post by ylekot on Jul 11, 2021 11:14:50 GMT -5
Agree 100%. If Leiter isn’t there, I want one of the prep shortstops. I've been on that island all along. Davis is "athlectic enough to play corner OF" the refrain goes -- so was Hanley.
If no Leiter, give me a SS (I think I'm on Lawlar now), Cowser as an under slot, or Rocker if the price is right. Looking forward to seeing who it will be and if it's Davis, I'll still love him as though he were my newborn child...
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Post by ylekot on Jul 11, 2021 11:17:05 GMT -5
Predict House
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Post by ortiz34 on Jul 11, 2021 11:22:27 GMT -5
From our old friend Ben.
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Post by ortiz34 on Jul 11, 2021 11:25:54 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jul 11, 2021 11:27:57 GMT -5
They are shopping and they’ll take the least pricey.
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Post by nomar on Jul 11, 2021 11:31:27 GMT -5
They are shopping and they’ll take the least pricey. The Pirates will probably go underslot every pick so their owner can buy a new mansion in the Hamptons
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 11, 2021 11:35:54 GMT -5
If I was a Pirates fan I'd want them to play negotiating games down to the wire with this draft class.
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Post by alan on Jul 11, 2021 11:39:01 GMT -5
Another reason why I don't think Mayer to Pirates is a done deal
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Post by alan on Jul 11, 2021 11:40:55 GMT -5
Kevin Goldstein said an hour ago that "two team exec praise the mock this morning" and that "they then follow that up with information that would have him wanting to change the mock" I wonder what that or those information could be?
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Post by beninri on Jul 11, 2021 11:52:24 GMT -5
The interview with Kiley really scared me off Davis. At this point I'd rather any of the other projected top 8 than him.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 11, 2021 12:05:33 GMT -5
How does anyone let Ben near a baseball team anymore? Davis or Lawler there is no way Chan looks at his board and goes Davis. He's in Boston, not Tampa.
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Post by fanofredsox on Jul 11, 2021 12:06:38 GMT -5
Bloom & company can’t miss with this pick! Who ever it ends up being, the player HAS to become a full time regular, be it Starting Pitcher or Position Player. Bloom has a lot riding on this pick. I think, He needs to get it RUGHT! Man oh man I really hopes he does!!!
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