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8/30-9/2 Red Sox @ Rays Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 30, 2021 7:24:59 GMT -5
8/30 Red Sox (RHP Nick Pivetta, 9-6, 4.57, 130.0 IP, 145K:57BB) @ Rays (RHP Luis Patino, 3-3, 4.53, 51.2 IP, 53K:21BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/ESPN/WEEI 8/31 Red Sox (TBD) @ Rays (TBD) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 9/1 Red Sox (LHP Chris Sale, 3-0, 2.35, 15.1 IP, 21K:3BB) @ Rays (RHP Drew Rasmussen, 1-1, 3.46, 52.0 IP, 58K:23BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 9/2 Red Sox (LHP Eduardo Rodriguez, 10-7, 5.12, 126.2 IP, 150K:38BB) @ Rays (LHP Shane McClanahan, 9-4, 3.59, 100.1 IP, 117K:31BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2021: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 30, 2021 7:51:24 GMT -5
The good Pivetta, the one with command, might be critical to this whole series.
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Post by costpet on Aug 30, 2021 7:54:12 GMT -5
If we blow this series, which is quite possible, it's all over this year. Oh, well. It was fun while it lasted.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2021 8:21:50 GMT -5
If we blow this series, which is quite possible, it's all over this year. Oh, well. It was fun while it lasted. They're 8 games out. Sweeping the series is the only thing that can give the Sox division title hopes but doing so is more likely to help the Yankees than the Sox. This series is likely to determine nothing. The Sox best case scenario is hosting the Yankees in the Wild Card game at Fenway. Their most likely scenario is playing that game in New York. Even if the Sox got swept by Tampa that doesn't mean Oakland runs away and sews up the 2nd wild card spot. You're being overdramatic. The 6-14 skid and Tampa's solid playing has rendered this series no more important than playing Cleveland or Baltimore. |
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Post by dd on Aug 30, 2021 11:35:51 GMT -5
If we blow this series, which is quite possible, it's all over this year. Oh, well. It was fun while it lasted. They're 8 games out. Sweeping the series is the only thing that can give the Sox division title hopes but doing so is more likely to help the Yankees than the Sox. This series is likely to determine nothing. The Sox best case scenario is hosting the Yankees in the Wild Card game at Fenway. Their most likely scenario is playing that game in New York. Even if the Sox got swept by Tampa that doesn't mean Oakland runs away and sews up the 2nd wild card spot. You're being overdramatic. The 6-14 skid and Tampa's solid playing has rendered this series no more important than playing Cleveland or Baltimore. I have really mixed emotions about this series. I find it hard to pull for their opponent but in truth they have virtually no chance at all of really accomplishing anything this year even if they do squeak into the wild card. I do NOT want to help the Yankees. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2021 12:14:48 GMT -5
They're 8 games out. Sweeping the series is the only thing that can give the Sox division title hopes but doing so is more likely to help the Yankees than the Sox. This series is likely to determine nothing. The Sox best case scenario is hosting the Yankees in the Wild Card game at Fenway. Their most likely scenario is playing that game in New York. Even if the Sox got swept by Tampa that doesn't mean Oakland runs away and sews up the 2nd wild card spot. You're being overdramatic. The 6-14 skid and Tampa's solid playing has rendered this series no more important than playing Cleveland or Baltimore. I have really mixed emotions about this series. I find it hard to pull for their opponent but in truth they have virtually no chance at all of really accomplishing anything this year even if they do squeak into the wild card. I do NOT want to help the Yankees. What the 3 lost weeks did was kill their chances of winning the division and put their playoff spot in jeopardy and made their most likely scenario a road team in the wild card game, which is disadvantageous given that they have been struggling on the road against good teams but playing well at home once the crowds returned. It's too bad the bullpen predictably blew yesterday's game or they could have narrowed the Yankees' lead down to 1 game. As it is, it's hard to imagine the Sox bullpen holding down a narrow late lead at Yankees Stadium with their fans going crazy. The Sox bullpen needs to get squared away by the end of the year. |
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Post by patford on Aug 30, 2021 12:50:42 GMT -5
I don't see the Sox making the wild card game but if they did it's single elimination and the Sox could go Sale followed by Eovaldi or Houck. It's an elimination game so an all hands on deck situation and the bullpen would probably not figure in unless it was Whitlock.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 30, 2021 12:59:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the elimination game would be like Sale/Whitlock/Houck. Frankly I don't think the Yankees can match that with their own pitching.
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Post by jmei on Aug 30, 2021 13:00:54 GMT -5
The idea of Houck relieving Sale is pretty neat.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2021 13:10:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the elimination game would be like Sale/Whitlock/Houck. Frankly I don't think the Yankees can match that. They have starters they can use. Gil shut the Sox down. Cole was roughed up at Fenway but pitched well at Yankees Stadium. Taillon and Montgomery pitched well against the Sox in all of their outings. Kluber could be available. Cortes has been an effective lefty out of the pen, something the Sox lack. On the Sox side, I'd have Eovaldi available for late inning relief. |
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Post by fanofredsox on Aug 30, 2021 13:21:53 GMT -5
The Sox need 3 of 4 in this series & need to go 5 & 2 vs The Rays in the 7 games remaining against them. Does that help the Yankees? You bet it it does but they still have 3 against the Yankees in September & will probably need 2 of 3 or a sweep to get a home playoff/playin game. But even all of that won’t help if they loose a series or two to other teams in September.
Red Sox baseball in September, exciting, heartbreaking & everything in between
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 30, 2021 13:32:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the elimination game would be like Sale/Whitlock/Houck. Frankly I don't think the Yankees can match that. They have starters they can use. Gil shut the Sox down. Cole was roughed up at Fenway but pitched well at Yankees Stadium. Taillon and Montgomery pitched well against the Sox in all of their outings. Kluber could be available. Cortes has been an effective lefty out of the pen, something the Sox lack. On the Sox side, I'd have Eovaldi available for late inning relief. Lets not forget Andrew Heaney |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2021 14:03:01 GMT -5
They have starters they can use. Gil shut the Sox down. Cole was roughed up at Fenway but pitched well at Yankees Stadium. Taillon and Montgomery pitched well against the Sox in all of their outings. Kluber could be available. Cortes has been an effective lefty out of the pen, something the Sox lack. On the Sox side, I'd have Eovaldi available for late inning relief. Lets not forget Andrew Heaney Lol. Game of his life Andrew Heany. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2021 14:06:30 GMT -5
The Sox need 3 of 4 in this series & need to go 5 & 2 vs The Rays in the 7 games remaining against them. Does that help the Yankees? You bet it it does but they still have 3 against the Yankees in September & will probably need 2 of 3 or a sweep to get a home playoff/playin game. But even all of that won’t help if they loose a series or two to other teams in September. Red Sox baseball in September, exciting, heartbreaking & everything in between Do you really expect the Sox, given the shape they're in to win 5 of 7 against TB? Even if they did that wouldn't half the deficit. The Sox would need to dominate their remaining schedule. The Yanks would have to be so-so and the Rays would have to collapse for the Sox to take the division. Let's just say that I'm not really counting on that scenario |
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Post by incandenza on Aug 30, 2021 14:10:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the elimination game would be like Sale/Whitlock/Houck. Frankly I don't think the Yankees can match that. They have starters they can use. Gil shut the Sox down. Cole was roughed up at Fenway but pitched well at Yankees Stadium. Taillon and Montgomery pitched well against the Sox in all of their outings. Kluber could be available. Cortes has been an effective lefty out of the pen, something the Sox lack. On the Sox side, I'd have Eovaldi available for late inning relief. Yes but what I'm saying is I don't think the Yankees can match Sale/Whitlock/Houck in respective 5 IP/2 IP/ 2 IP roles. Sale>Cole. Whitlock>Gil. Houck>Montgomery. Etc.
Fine to make him available but I'd rather not see Eovaldi come in as a reliever unless they're up a few runs (in which case his control would be welcome); you never know when one of his straight-ass 100mph fastballs will get turned into a 430-foot homer, even when he seems to be cruising. All the more so against the Yankees lineup.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2021 14:34:42 GMT -5
They have starters they can use. Gil shut the Sox down. Cole was roughed up at Fenway but pitched well at Yankees Stadium. Taillon and Montgomery pitched well against the Sox in all of their outings. Kluber could be available. Cortes has been an effective lefty out of the pen, something the Sox lack. On the Sox side, I'd have Eovaldi available for late inning relief. Yes but what I'm saying is I don't think the Yankees can match Sale/Whitlock/Houck in respective 5 IP/2 IP/ 2 IP roles. Sale>Cole. Whitlock>Gil. Houck>Montgomery. Etc. Fine to make him available but I'd rather not see Eovaldi come in as a reliever unless they're up a few runs (in which case his control would be welcome); you never know when one of his straight-ass 100mph fastballs will get turned into a 430-foot homer, even when he seems to be cruising. All the more so against the Yankees lineup.
The Yankees pitching has been better all year. No, it doesn't mean that the Sox pitching can't be better for one game, but the Sox don't have a lefty out of the pen to get out Rizzo or Gallo at the moment and I certainly wouldn't trust Barnes or even Ottavino at this moment to hold a 5-4 8th or 9th inning lead which is why I mentioned Eovaldi. Hopefully that changes and Barnes gets his act together. Conversely you wonder how far Boone goes with Chapman in a similar situation if he struggles with control. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 30, 2021 15:10:03 GMT -5
I’m feeling great about this series, we take 3 LETS GOOOOO
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 30, 2021 15:24:26 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Aug 30, 2021 15:40:13 GMT -5
Well I couldn’t have jinxed that any harder
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Post by cdj on Aug 30, 2021 15:43:00 GMT -5
Schwarber DH
Devers 5
Martinez 7
Bogaerts 6
Verdugo 9
Dalbec 3
Vazquez 2
Duran 8
Munoz 4
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Post by cba82 on Aug 30, 2021 15:43:47 GMT -5
Any idea who’s on the taxi squad?
Not that I expected anything from Martin Perez in this series, but this is not helpful to the cause.
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Post by cba82 on Aug 30, 2021 15:50:27 GMT -5
Any idea who’s on the taxi squad? Not that I expected anything from Martin Perez in this series, but this is not helpful to the cause. Here we go: Bill Koch @billkoch25 · Cora said Jon Schreiber, Raynel Espinal, Connor Wong, Jack Lopez and Phillips Valdez are with the #RedSox on the taxi squad. |
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Post by vokuhila on Aug 30, 2021 16:11:41 GMT -5
more AAA depth
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Post by benzinger on Aug 30, 2021 16:32:51 GMT -5
The idea of Houck relieving Sale is pretty neat. Not if he’s walking everyone, though. |
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Aug 30, 2021 16:50:23 GMT -5
I'd put Peacock on the roster and have him spot start tomorrow if he has half a brain and got himself vaccinated. Otherwise doesn't he have to clear protocols? Can't be worse than Robles or Davis.
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