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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2022 9:00:11 GMT -5
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Post by 0ap0 on Mar 31, 2022 10:20:01 GMT -5
I like how there were no "key moments" anywhere in the top of the eighth, as the game was already a blow-out.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2022 10:40:44 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 31, 2022 10:51:25 GMT -5
Statcast OAA defensive numbers are now on Fangraphs player pages
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Post by taiwansox on Mar 31, 2022 11:58:34 GMT -5
Yeah and that team (eye roll) was definitely better than the 2017 Dodgers. This is the most bitter comment since the Rockies owner said the 2007 Rockies were better than the 2007 Red Sox…
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2022 12:02:21 GMT -5
Yeah and that team (eye roll) was definitely better than the 2017 Dodgers. This is the most bitter comment since the Rockies owner said the 2007 Rockies were better than the 2007 Red Sox… They were a 91 win team. lol Also, I can't wait until we see Manfred's letter to the Yankees about their sign stealing.
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Post by ematz1423 on Mar 31, 2022 12:50:51 GMT -5
What a whiney stupid thing for him to say. What a joke. Ill be even more interested to see if the MLB has to make public the whole cheating stuff with the Yankees now.
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Post by incandenza on Mar 31, 2022 13:02:44 GMT -5
For the non-paywalled version."Horrific." Apropos nothing, I happened to see this just after reading the latest news about Ukraine...
Also, apparently he "gets offended" at hearing a basic statement of fact.
And more gibberish:
What does any of that even mean?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 31, 2022 16:10:32 GMT -5
For the non-paywalled version."Horrific." Apropos nothing, I happened to see this just after reading the latest news about Ukraine... Also, apparently he "gets offended" at hearing a basic statement of fact. And more gibberish: What does any of that even mean? The team of the century, last century.
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2022 8:08:30 GMT -5
Degrom having an MRI on his shoulder.
It’s so hard for pitchers to live up to their big contracts anymore. Injury + performance risk is just through the roof compared to position players.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 1, 2022 8:34:35 GMT -5
Degrom having an MRI on his shoulder. It’s so hard for pitchers to live up to their big contracts anymore. Injury + performance risk is just through the roof compared to position players. Degrom may be damaged goods at this point. Some here were saying he'd be a good target next year in free agency. Personally I'm not lining up to give that guy some crazy scherzer type deal.
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2022 10:22:06 GMT -5
Degrom having an MRI on his shoulder. It’s so hard for pitchers to live up to their big contracts anymore. Injury + performance risk is just through the roof compared to position players. Degrom may be damaged goods at this point. Some here were saying he'd be a good target next year in free agency. Personally I'm not lining up to give that guy some crazy scherzer type deal. I think I prefer either prospects/young controlled guys or moneyball type deals at this point. I don’t want to be signing 29/30 year old star pitchers to long term deals. I’d rather piece a rotation together and leave my large investments in position players.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 1, 2022 11:18:14 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Apr 1, 2022 11:28:58 GMT -5
Actually seems like a good trade for both teams.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 1, 2022 11:33:58 GMT -5
So the Dodgers let Jansen go and replaced him with Kimbrel (both are essentially on 1/16 contracts). But to make that exchange they had to give up Pollock.
Frankly, I'd rather have Jansen than Kimbrel straight up. But even if you think Kimbrel is better, there's absolutely no way that there's a Pollock's worth of difference between the two. (Both their career numbers and projections for this season are almost identical.)
Taken in that context, this seems terrible for the Dodgers.
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 1, 2022 11:46:38 GMT -5
Pollack would have been perfect on the Red Sox, Chaim might have been fighting over him.. White Sox had a huge hole in the OF and were the #1 rumored Conforto destination.
Maybe we see our domino fall now
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Post by incandenza on Apr 1, 2022 12:15:08 GMT -5
Pollack would have been perfect on the Red Sox, Chaim might have been fighting over him.. White Sox had a huge hole in the OF and were the #1 rumored Conforto destination. Maybe we see our domino fall now Hmm, that pairs interestingly with this quote from a tweet from a few days ago you posted in the 3rd outfielder thread:
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 1, 2022 12:15:29 GMT -5
The way this player option is written is so bad:
A.J. Pollock cf 4 years/$55M (2019-22), plus 2023 option
19:$1M, 20:$12M, 21:$15M, 22:$10M, 23:$10M player option ($5M buyout) 2023 option increases $1M each for 400, 450, 500, 550, 600 plate appearances in 2022
So he only opts in if he had a bad year. And if he had a bad year, the manager at some point stops writing his name in the lineup so much. Which probably is not going to go over well when the guy earns an extra $1 million every fifty plate appearances. Just call it s $13 million player option!
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2022 12:16:41 GMT -5
Stephen Drew probably wants to give Conforto a hug right now
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 1, 2022 12:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2022 12:58:20 GMT -5
Unless they really think Pollock is going to fall off a cliff, that trade seems pretty awful.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 1, 2022 14:11:37 GMT -5
Stephen Drew probably wants to give Conforto a hug right now Conforto, Kumar Rocker, Carlos Correa*... Is any agent remotely as likely as Scott Boras to screw over his own clients?
*I still cannot get over the Correa contract. Consider that Max Scherzer also signed a 3-year deal (albeit with one opt out instead of two). His AAV is $43 million - $8 million more than Correa's. That is despite the fact that:
a) Scherzer is ten years older than Correa, and b) Correa has a substantially higher WAR projection, both for this season and even more so over the next 3 seasons.
All that is against the backdrop of Boras having a personal financial incentive for Correa to opt out after this season; in other words, it was in his own interest to negotiate a short-term deal on poor terms for his client.
I really feel like this should be treated as a total scandal.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 1, 2022 14:26:21 GMT -5
Stephen Drew probably wants to give Conforto a hug right now Conforto, Kumar Rocker, Carlos Correa*... Is any agent remotely as likely as Scott Boras to screw over his own clients?
*I still cannot get over the Correa contract. Consider that Max Scherzer also signed a 3-year deal (albeit with one opt out instead of two). His AAV is $43 million - $8 million more than Correa's. That is despite the fact that:
a) Scherzer is ten years older than Correa, and b) Correa has a substantially higher WAR projection, both for this season and even more so over the next 3 seasons.
All that is against the backdrop of Boras having a personal financial incentive for Correa to opt out after this season; in other words, it was in his own interest to negotiate a short-term deal on poor terms for his client.
I really feel like this should be treated as a total scandal.
Lawyers... what can I say. Sorry Chris, truly. Boras just looking out for his own best interests!!
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 1, 2022 14:38:03 GMT -5
I don't think that's being fair to Boras. For one, that nutty Scherzer deal (which most people here defended) was negotiated by Boras.
Conforto - He had a horrendous walk season and then got injured during the lockout. His fortunes have tumbled, but I'm not sure how Boras is to blame. I think most people would have characterized the QO decision as borderline at the time.
Correa - I think you can argue that they didn't play their cards perfectly here. Texas might prefer to have Correa than Seager, and Correa would probably be happier with Seager's deal. Once the lockout ended, Houston was offering 5/160, cellar dweller Baltimore apparently had some big offer (that may have been partially fake with deferred money or team options) and that was pretty much it apparently. Given those options I don't think it was outrageous to go for a big one year deal with insurance and try again next year.
Kumar - I won't comment since I don't know the blow by blow details of how this went down.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 1, 2022 14:40:44 GMT -5
Unless they really think Pollock is going to fall off a cliff, that trade seems pretty awful. I don't think it's that bad. Pollock is an often injured outfielder the Dodgers can live without. It would allow them to play Lux every day who is supposed to be a good prospect who has yet to pan out. It would allow them to DH Muncy which would improve their defense. Kimbrel can be a dominant closer. Better chance of that in LA with his closing than in Chicago with him setting up which he doesn't do well for some reason. It's a good deal for the Sox. They can live without Kimbrel certainly and maybe Pollock can stay healthy enough and be a big help to them, so it's not much of a gamble for them. I think the trade makes sense for both teams. It would have made more sense for the Dodgers to find a way to retain Janssen and they wouldn't have had to deal Pollock but when that ship sailed it left their bullpen as bit of a question mark. With Kimbrel as closer, it puts their bullpen kind of back in order with Treinen settling in as a setup man.
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