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Post by alan on Feb 23, 2022 9:10:07 GMT -5
Absolutely love the description on all three of Casas, Mayer and Yorke. Can't wait for the Red Sox top prospect list
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 23, 2022 11:22:18 GMT -5
For fun, read the Adley Rutschman write up. I don't remember a prospect that hyped in awhile. They might have given him an 80 grade if he wasn't a catcher, which will limit the number of games he plays. Don't often see a projection of "consistent MVP threat".
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 23, 2022 11:23:28 GMT -5
Love how high they are on these 3… less enthused about the massive drop off after them, but I think it’s extremely fair as there is a huge gap (as of now).
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Post by Manuel De Moya on Feb 23, 2022 11:41:15 GMT -5
Love how high they are on these 3… less enthused about the massive drop off after them, but I think it’s extremely fair as there is a huge gap (as of now). That's also how I feel, although I could see Brayan Bello or Blaze Jordan reaching a FV of 50 and making this list next year. Jeter Downs also took a big hit, went from being ranked 53rd last season to outside the ranking. His FV likely went down from 50 to 45+.
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Post by bosox904 on Feb 23, 2022 12:29:58 GMT -5
For fun, read the Adley Rutschman write up. I don't remember a prospect that hyped in awhile. They might have given him an 80 grade if he wasn't a catcher, which will limit the number of games he plays. Don't often see a projection of "consistent MVP threat". Wander Franco. He was a 80 FV in both 2020 and 2021. Vlad was also a 70 in 2019. Franco is probably the most hyped prospect I remember since I started following all MLB prospects about 10 years ago.
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Post by foreverred9 on Feb 23, 2022 12:39:47 GMT -5
Casas ranked the highest of all the 55s. Our top 3 each graded at 55, 32 total players in baseball at 55 and above and we have 3 of them.
Mayer, Davis, and Leiter the only draftees rated at 55 or higher, with Jackson Jobe being the highest ranked of all the 50s. Mayer ranked the highest of those 4.
Mayer, Yorke, and Jordan Walker the only teenagers rated 55 or higher. Walker ranked just slightly higher than Mayer at 17.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 23, 2022 13:04:42 GMT -5
For fun, read the Adley Rutschman write up. I don't remember a prospect that hyped in awhile. They might have given him an 80 grade if he wasn't a catcher, which will limit the number of games he plays. Don't often see a projection of "consistent MVP threat". Wander Franco. He was a 80 FV in both 2020 and 2021. Vlad was also a 70 in 2019. Franco is probably the most hyped prospect I remember since I started following all MLB prospects about 10 years ago. Lux and Gore were 70s behind Wander in 2020. Ohtani was a 70 in 2018, Moncada a 70 in 2017. So a fairly typical top prospect, which is a special type of prospect but not necessarily a unicorn (Franco being a unicorn as a FV80).
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Feb 23, 2022 13:11:14 GMT -5
Wander Franco. He was a 80 FV in both 2020 and 2021. Vlad was also a 70 in 2019. Franco is probably the most hyped prospect I remember since I started following all MLB prospects about 10 years ago. Lux and Gore were 70s behind Wander in 2020. Ohtani was a 70 in 2018, Moncada a 70 in 2017. So a fairly typical top prospect, which is a special type of prospect but not necessarily a unicorn (Franco being a unicorn as a FV80). Curious what they had Harper as, I do remember them calling him the best prospect of all time
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 23, 2022 14:16:20 GMT -5
Their "The Board" only goes back that far. I'm sure Google can help get what you're looking for.
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Post by scottysmalls on Feb 23, 2022 14:59:21 GMT -5
Wander Franco. He was a 80 FV in both 2020 and 2021. Vlad was also a 70 in 2019. Franco is probably the most hyped prospect I remember since I started following all MLB prospects about 10 years ago. Lux and Gore were 70s behind Wander in 2020. Ohtani was a 70 in 2018, Moncada a 70 in 2017. So a fairly typical top prospect, which is a special type of prospect but not necessarily a unicorn (Franco being a unicorn as a FV80). I don't know, the article says this about Rutschman: "Rutschman is a nearly-perfect prospect and inspired internal discussion about whether he deserved to be our second-ever 80 FV player." You could interpret that line as them having him as a better prospect than those others outside of Wander.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 23, 2022 15:26:38 GMT -5
In fact, the way it's worded, made it sound like he'd be an 80 if he weren't a catcher.
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Post by GyIantosca on Feb 23, 2022 19:19:05 GMT -5
Has Soxprospects ever ranked every mlb team based on prospects? Just curious how you guys see this team stacking with the rest.
Espn had us ranked 12, but Bleacher report had us ranked 22 I think.
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Post by alan on Feb 23, 2022 19:43:32 GMT -5
In their chat Longenhagen mentioned that “they never should have been on Downs. That bat path never works”. I also remembered that FG have compared his swing to Carter Kieboom’s. These two combined have me very concerned about Downs.
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Post by jaffinator on Feb 23, 2022 20:32:23 GMT -5
Has Soxprospects ever ranked every mlb team based on prospects? Just curious how you guys see this team stacking with the rest. Espn had us ranked 12, but Bleacher report had us ranked 22 I think. That sounds like an insane amount of work for a site not set up to function that way. As a slightly related question though, I am curious about how much insight the guys have on other team's prospects almost just through a sort of osmosis - seeing them when scouting Sox guys, or hearing scouts chatter about them, that sort of thing.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 24, 2022 2:20:45 GMT -5
For fun, read the Adley Rutschman write up. I don't remember a prospect that hyped in awhile. They might have given him an 80 grade if he wasn't a catcher, which will limit the number of games he plays. Don't often see a projection of "consistent MVP threat". Watched him play at Oregon State and the hype is understandable. How many switch hitting catchers with patience and power - and with outstanding defensive credentials - are there in the world? Wieters was the last one and I'd place Rutschman a cut above him.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 24, 2022 10:25:08 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Feb 24, 2022 11:16:32 GMT -5
Binelas at 8 is a pleasant surprise. Not sure if speaks more to his talent or the overall 1b prospect talent, but hoping they're high on his potential
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 24, 2022 11:45:38 GMT -5
They grade the talent at the position as 2 stars out of 5, so (as typical) it's not a loaded group.
For context they've got Binelas ranked 17th in the Red Sox system, as pointed out back on page 4, so make of that what you will.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 24, 2022 14:24:23 GMT -5
1B (and DH) is a last resort for prospects, kind of like with relief pitching, so there are rarely many prospects that are considered at those positions.
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Post by bosox904 on Feb 24, 2022 15:56:47 GMT -5
They grade the talent at the position as 2 stars out of 5, so (as typical) it's not a loaded group. For context they've got Binelas ranked 17th in the Red Sox system, as pointed out back on page 4, so make of that what you will. MLB pipeline had a podcast episode where they drafted a team of prospects with 2023 or later ETAs(with Sam Dykstra as a guest), either Callis or Mayo said at the beginning 1B was going to probably be their last pick simply because the position is so weak. One of them also took both Mayer and Yorke.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Feb 25, 2022 11:21:02 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 25, 2022 12:58:15 GMT -5
So they got the 2nd ranked first and the number 1 second base heck of a right side of the infield if they both pan out. I'd hope Mayer may be top 10 ss but that position group is going to be tough to crack.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 25, 2022 13:14:16 GMT -5
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Post by wcsoxfan on Feb 25, 2022 14:30:32 GMT -5
Casas missed a chunk of last season with the Olympics and Olympics qualifying, where he performed quite well. ZIPs reads this as him being injured during this period, so it likely rates him a tad lower than it should.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 1, 2022 10:17:20 GMT -5
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