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Post by brendan98 on Nov 17, 2021 10:01:45 GMT -5
A good read on Seiya Suzuki. SuzukiHe would be an imperfect fit on the Sox, but I am not a huge Hunter Renfroe fan (he is a .300 OBP guy most years and just put up .315 in a career year), that said I think the Sox got the best version of Hunter Renfroe last year and Bloom could possibly use that in a trade for pitching help if he did go after Suzuki.
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Post by borisman on Nov 17, 2021 10:27:12 GMT -5
Let's go brendan98! Good job finding this guy. I don't remember anyone talking about him in the past as a possibility. Any news on whether the Sox would have interest? I don't see why not. Just because I'm lazy to look it up what is the timeline (is there a deadline, I thought it was about this time of year) for posting players in the past?
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Post by brendan98 on Nov 17, 2021 10:32:25 GMT -5
Reports say he should be posted late November time frame.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Nov 17, 2021 10:42:26 GMT -5
Let's go brendan98! Good job finding this guy. I don't remember anyone talking about him in the past as a possibility. Any news on whether the Sox would have interest? I don't see why not. Just because I'm lazy to look it up what is the timeline (is there a deadline, I thought it was about this time of year) for posting players in the past? He's been discussed extensively in the FA thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Nov 17, 2021 10:43:17 GMT -5
Let's go brendan98! Good job finding this guy. I don't remember anyone talking about him in the past as a possibility. Any news on whether the Sox would have interest? I don't see why not. Just because I'm lazy to look it up what is the timeline (is there a deadline, I thought it was about this time of year) for posting players in the past? There's been significant discussion of him in the free agency thread. Red Sox are rumored to have interest, but other teams are interested, including the Rangers.
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Post by borisman on Nov 17, 2021 10:50:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I got a late start on free agency and the thread is now over 30 pages long. Must've missed school that day
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Post by cdj on Nov 17, 2021 10:59:57 GMT -5
Hopefully he’s cool with coming to the east coast, I know that’s been something that sometimes matters to Japanese players. LA to Japan is a lot easier than Boston to Japan
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Post by incandenza on Nov 17, 2021 11:15:51 GMT -5
Hopefully he’s cool with coming to the east coast, I know that’s been something that sometimes matters to Japanese players. LA to Japan is a lot easier than Boston to Japan Azimuths!! It's 5,477 miles from LA to Tokyo, 6,703 miles from Boston to Tokyo. Getting to LAX from anywhere civilized would take longer than the difference in flight time.
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Post by voiceofreason on Nov 17, 2021 11:48:57 GMT -5
Their is always risk in going after an International player like this but it is purely financial and one the Sox have been open to in the past. The last time it didn't work out so well with Rusney and maybe that was enough for John Henry to say no. But this guy has everything you are looking for in a player when it comes to the analytics and the production. On top of that he will be going into next season at 27. Who knows what it will cost but he looks like a guy who will be very good for someone.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 17, 2021 11:52:43 GMT -5
Their is always risk in going after an International player like this but it is purely financial and one the Sox have been open to in the past. The last time it didn't work out so well with Rusney and maybe that was enough for John Henry to say no. But this guy has everything you are looking for in a player when it comes to the analytics and the production. On top of that he will be going into next season at 27. Who knows what it will cost but he looks like a guy who will be very good for someone. I think Suzuki could be a good addition just don't give him a 7 year deal like they did with rusney. That was the biggest issue with rusney. If it was a 3-4 year deal we probably would just be saying eh that didn't work but was worth a shot.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Nov 17, 2021 12:55:57 GMT -5
Their is always risk in going after an International player like this but it is purely financial and one the Sox have been open to in the past. The last time it didn't work out so well with Rusney and maybe that was enough for John Henry to say no. But this guy has everything you are looking for in a player when it comes to the analytics and the production. On top of that he will be going into next season at 27. Who knows what it will cost but he looks like a guy who will be very good for someone. I think Suzuki could be a good addition just don't give him a 7 year deal like they did with rusney. That was the biggest issue with rusney. If it was a 3-4 year deal we probably would just be saying eh that didn't work but was worth a shot. Technically Sawamura would have been the last one, of course on a much smaller scale. But his instance backs up your point as he hasn't quite worked out, but if he doesn't work out again next year then they don't pick up his option for the third year. So nobody is stressing over it (also due to the low $$).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 17, 2021 13:03:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I got a late start on free agency and the thread is now over 30 pages long. Must've missed school that day FWIW, precisely why we don't love megathreads.
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Post by julyanmorley on Nov 17, 2021 13:28:57 GMT -5
There was an earlier talk about spreadsheet projection that had him at 2 WAR with about an 800 OPS.
It seems to me that his defensive reputation is quite solid. I'm thinking the spreadsheet was probably punting on having an opinion on his defense, so I'm thinking he's better than that projection.
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Post by radiohix on Nov 17, 2021 13:39:51 GMT -5
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Nov 17, 2021 22:33:14 GMT -5
Their is always risk in going after an International player like this but it is purely financial and one the Sox have been open to in the past. The last time it didn't work out so well with Rusney and maybe that was enough for John Henry to say no. But this guy has everything you are looking for in a player when it comes to the analytics and the production. On top of that he will be going into next season at 27. Who knows what it will cost but he looks like a guy who will be very good for someone. I think Suzuki could be a good addition just don't give him a 7 year deal like they did with rusney. That was the biggest issue with rusney. If it was a 3-4 year deal we probably would just be saying eh that didn't work but was worth a shot. It essentially was a 3-year deal because he was off the 40-man and didn't count against the CBT for the last 4 years. A blip in Henry's bank account but nothing that affected the roster (not nearly as bad as the Panda deal, for example). I wonder if he would trade the $72.5m for a legit big-league career...
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Post by vermontsox1 on Nov 21, 2021 10:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by alan on Nov 21, 2021 10:51:58 GMT -5
Man I want him to be a Red Sox so bad. Great plate discipline, plus power and a great glove
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Post by orion09 on Nov 21, 2021 11:27:40 GMT -5
So… if there were a lockout, could the signing period be postponed or would he just go unsigned?
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Post by Addam603 on Nov 21, 2021 11:30:30 GMT -5
The period would pause and then resume once the lockout ended with the same amount of time left.
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Nov 21, 2021 11:47:49 GMT -5
Chaim is going to be celebrating Thanksgiving in Japan this week to lock things up.
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Post by incandenza on Dec 6, 2021 14:50:55 GMT -5
This is obviously a very superficial comparison, but:
Hideki Matsui, career stats in Japan (ages 19-28): .304/.413/.582 Seiya Suzuki, career stats in Japan (ages 18-26): .315/.414/.570
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Post by saltalamacchia4mvp on Dec 6, 2021 14:59:20 GMT -5
Suzuki has the perfect swing for Fenway - take the gamble and potentially end up with a very marketable superstar. Willing to take the risk IMO
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 6, 2021 16:44:38 GMT -5
At this point with the guys off the board who have signed I'm rooting for Suzuki signing more than any other free agent. There's quite a big risk but there could be an even bigger reward as I don't see him getting a mega deal and he sounds like a good all around player. If his defense is as advertised he could be just what the sox need in RF in fenway.
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Post by jmei on Dec 6, 2021 17:02:02 GMT -5
For a team up against the CBT threshold, signing international free agents is an inefficiency (since the posting fee isn’t counted against the luxury tax).
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Post by jl1947 on Dec 6, 2021 18:01:32 GMT -5
And we know Chaim is all about exploiting market inefficiencies. Henry made his fortune on understanding and exploiting such a concept, including selling the software that analysed such investment opportunities.
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