TearsIn04
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Everybody knows Nelson de la Rosa, but who is Karim Garcia?
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 29, 2022 16:06:43 GMT -5
He racked up -0.6 fWAR in 19 PAs. (How is that even possible?) For context, Franchy was worth -0.8 last season. Marwin was worth -0.2. This turned out to be a rather costly signing. Shaw was slightly ahead of the torrid pace Pablo Sandoval was setting for negative WAR when he was shut down in 2016. He was at -.2 through 7 PAs (0 for 6 with 1 BB; OPS-plus of -57). Over the course of, let's say 100 PAs, I'd bet on the 2016 Panda putting up more negative WAR than the 2022 T. Shaw.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 29, 2022 16:31:12 GMT -5
Pretty nondescript guy until he annihilated AAA in 2019. Only 250 PA since then. Patella tendon injury in 2021. Bad day for Refsnyder. Just another piece of spaghetti for the wall. In addition to Duran and Christin Stewart, the WooSox OF now features Refsnyder, Davis, and Johan Mieses, who has been raking thus far this season. The latter three all have a history of mashing LHP and all three can play RF. Davis and Duran are the only ones on the 40-man and Duran isn't going anywhere, so I wouldn't be surprised if Davis gets DFAed the next time there's a crunch and Chaim just hopes he clears waivers. If they're okay carrying 5 OFs in Worcester, they can leave it as is unless someone in the Portland OF (Granberg?) beats down the door to Polar Park.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 29, 2022 17:40:40 GMT -5
Hey, if the first couple times with Franchy didn't succeed try try again. "Franchy will prove that I AM the smartest man in the room no matter who's in the room, dammit! Now get him to Baltimore, ASAP!" said Chaim Bloom. I'd say that maybe this level of reaching to hate on Bloom at all costs would be fair if he forced Franchy onto the Opening Day roster without merit as opposed to giving Franchy a chance after hitting well in the first month of the season and replacing the worst hitter in baseball, but... no, even then it'd still be kinda sad
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 30, 2022 9:34:52 GMT -5
Pretty nondescript guy until he annihilated AAA in 2019. Only 250 PA since then. Patella tendon injury in 2021. Bad day for Refsnyder. Just another piece of spaghetti for the wall. In addition to Duran and Christin Stewart, the WooSox OF now features Refsnyder, Davis, and Johan Mieses, who has been raking thus far this season. The latter three all have a history of mashing LHP and all three can play RF. Davis and Duran are the only ones on the 40-man and Duran isn't going anywhere, so I wouldn't be surprised if Davis gets DFAed the next time there's a crunch and Chaim just hopes he clears waivers. If they're okay carrying 5 OFs in Worcester, they can leave it as is unless someone in the Portland OF (Granberg?) beats down the door to Polar Park. Mieses has barely played. He's either dinged up or a clear bench guy. Likely the latter.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 14, 2022 15:54:49 GMT -5
Hill reinstated, Crawford optioned, Jaylin Davis DFA'ed.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 18, 2022 13:47:31 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 5, 2022 14:32:33 GMT -5
The Red Sox are going to need two 40 man spots in the next couple of weeks. Cora just said that Sale will be back next week assuming no setbacks and Josh Taylor won’t be far behind. Looking at the 40 man and there aren’t any really obvious moves to make. I suppose Valdez or Sawamura could be DFA’d. There aren’t any clear minor leaguers to get rid of (Potts and Rosario at the beginning of the year). Maybe Barnes on the IL could be moved to the 60 day. I think you could maybe see a move made involving a Ronaldo Hernandez type to clear a spot.
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 5, 2022 14:42:47 GMT -5
The Red Sox are going to need two 40 man spots in the next couple of weeks. Cora just said that Sale will be back next week assuming no setbacks and Josh Taylor won’t be far behind. Looking at the 40 man and there aren’t any really obvious moves to make. I suppose Valdez or Sawamura could be DFA’d. There aren’t any clear minor leaguers to get rid of (Potts and Rosario at the beginning of the year). Maybe Barnes on the IL could be moved to the 60 day. I think you could maybe see a move made involving a Ronaldo Hernandez type to clear a spot. It's probably going to be Valdez and Robles that will be gone next.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 5, 2022 14:49:07 GMT -5
The Red Sox are going to need two 40 man spots in the next couple of weeks. Cora just said that Sale will be back next week assuming no setbacks and Josh Taylor won’t be far behind. Looking at the 40 man and there aren’t any really obvious moves to make. I suppose Valdez or Sawamura could be DFA’d. There aren’t any clear minor leaguers to get rid of (Potts and Rosario at the beginning of the year). Maybe Barnes on the IL could be moved to the 60 day. I think you could maybe see a move made involving a Ronaldo Hernandez type to clear a spot. Barnes to the 60 is def one - he's more than halfway there already and the 60 would include the break. I wouldn't underestimate the chances of a bullpen DFA.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 5, 2022 16:37:39 GMT -5
Never mind, Barnes threw a bullpen today and may get into games next week.
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Post by bosoxnation on Jul 5, 2022 17:26:01 GMT -5
I don't know how Robles is still on the 40. Cora or Bloom must owe him money lol
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Post by redsox43 on Jul 5, 2022 17:31:05 GMT -5
Probably one of the reasons why you haven't seen Ort or Kelly for a bullpen audition is because the 40 man roster spot is more valuable right now. You should have no problem DFAing Robles, but you can't do that with Ort or Kelly if exposed to waivers. This team is officially in a 40 man roster crunch right now.
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Post by soxaddict on Jul 5, 2022 19:33:06 GMT -5
DFA Robles for sure and possibly Danish.
Fingers crossed they work out a couple of trades for Josh Bell and/or David Robertson. IMO, the addition of those two would make the Sox a legit contender.
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Post by bcsox on Jul 5, 2022 20:00:21 GMT -5
Sawamura has under the radar pitched pretty well this year. You absolutely can’t bring him In with runners on base, but to start an inning up 3-4 runs or down 1-2 in the 6th-7th, he has been very effective.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 5, 2022 22:24:37 GMT -5
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jul 5, 2022 22:31:22 GMT -5
It’s time to party!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for last year and first couple games this year but good bye
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ericmvan
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 6, 2022 3:38:11 GMT -5
The Robles DFA also opens up a 40-man spot for Sale five days from now. Danish is the obvious guy to option. He and Valdez are nice pieces to have at Worcester for the occasional call-up. Paxton and (at some point) Casas are only guys that seems likely to be further additions. R. Hernandez appears to be the most disposable guy. For a proposed second body, see below.
I pointed out a while ago that when Kiké comes back, it's hard to see them optioning Duran or trading Arroyo, so they may need to operate with a 12-man staff as long as all the position players are healthy. But in practice, it's very unusual for everyone on the 26 to be healthy, so you can still budget for 13 pitchers.
Who would be the 12 / 13? To stat with, Sale, Pivetta, Eovaldi, Wacha, Winkowski; Houck, Whitlock, Schreiber, Brasier (who's been lights-out since late May, something I missed in an earlier version of this). That leaves Hill, Barnes, Sawamura, and the three LHR for three + one spots.
Hill has not been good in his first inning, especially at home which best simulates a relief appearance (warming up and going right into the game). He was lights out in 2020-21, though ... but his value for both the 26-man and in the org is fading given all the starting depth in AAA. There have to be contenders where he'd be an upgrade as a 5th or 6th starter. Trade him for a guy that has been undervalued by his org in the classic Rays / Bloom Sox fashion.
That leaves the 3 LHR and Sawamura, with the hope that Barnes supplants Sawamura in the depth chart and forces him to AAA at times (when very few pitchers are on the IL), as solid as he is.
Here's the crazy thing about the org at present. Let's say that a reliever or position player is on the IL, allowing Duran to stay in the show.
Pitchers on the 40 man you could call up and that would be be useful:
Sawamura Crawford Bello Seabold
Danish Valdez
Hitters: Downs (.343 / .500 / .600 in his 11 G / 46 PA since his thimble-full of coffee)
Casas will give them just enough position player depth to get by ... but when will he be ready?
Some things I could see them doing:
1) Trade Diekman and acquire a lights-out LR
2) Trade Danish or Valdez and acquire an extra position player, or to open up a 40-man spot for Fitzgerald
3) Something no one has thought of that makes excellent sense.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 7, 2022 22:31:19 GMT -5
Rafael Devers
Since June 1st
Rafael Devers - 7 HR - 25 RBI JD & Xander - 5 HR - 23 RBI
2 of those 3 have to get going
Bobby gets a lot of blame on here and some of it is deserved. But he is being treated by some as the main reason for the Sox current issues. Like if we would get a new 1B everything would be fine again.
problem is our lineup issues run deeper than that. When two of your key middle of the order bats have struggled this badly for more than a month they should be the ones that shoulder more of the blame. As they are the ones being paid the big $$$ to produce like middle of the order bats.
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Post by cdj on Jul 8, 2022 8:08:42 GMT -5
Rafael Devers Since June 1st Rafael Devers - 7 HR - 25 RBI JD & Xander - 5 HR - 23 RBI 2 of those 3 have to get going Bobby gets a lot of blame on here and some of it is deserved. But he is being treated by some as the main reason for the Sox current issues. Like if we would get a new 1B everything would be fine again. problem is our lineup issues run deeper than that. When two of your key middle of the order bats have struggled this badly for more than a month they should be the ones that shoulder more of the blame. As they are the ones being paid the big $$$ to produce like middle of the order bats. Nobody thinks the offense sucks because of Bobby, at the end of the day he’s a bottom of the order hitter. They just think he sucks and want him to be replaced. Which imo is totally fair When the offense sputters like this it’s usually because Xander has gone cold. I view him as kind of the linchpin of the lineup
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Post by incandenza on Jul 8, 2022 8:49:06 GMT -5
Yes, Bogaerts is really killing the team with his... [checks notes] .294/.383/.422 line and 127 wRC+ since June 1st.
(But JD *is* sort of killing the team with his .236/.312/.382. I'm more concerned about his power outage than Xander's, as it's part of a multi-year trend.)
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 8, 2022 8:58:31 GMT -5
Yes, Bogaerts is really killing the team with his... [checks notes] .294/.383/.422 line and 127 wRC+ since June 1st. (But JD *is* sort of killing the team with his .236/.312/.382. I'm more concerned about his power outage than Xander's, as it's part of a multi-year trend.)
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Post by incandenza on Jul 8, 2022 9:21:58 GMT -5
That definitely illustrates the totally different claim that Xander and JDM have struggled in the last 10 games, but I'm not sure what it has to do with their performance since June 1st.
I guess I'm just not that worried about a little 10-game slump for any given hitter. For Xander, there's no evidence it's part of any bigger slide - he had a 149 wRC+ in June. For JDM the trends are a little more concerning, especially as his overall good offensive numbers, such as they are, are seriously juiced by an unsustainable BABIP.
Actually, I might check in to see if the Mets might trade for him. They've been lousy at DH and he'd be an upgrade for them. That would be predicated on Bloom adding probably two other bats though.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 8, 2022 10:37:13 GMT -5
Yes, Bogaerts is really killing the team with his... [checks notes] .294/.383/.422 line and 127 wRC+ since June 1st. (But JD *is* sort of killing the team with his .236/.312/.382. I'm more concerned about his power outage than Xander's, as it's part of a multi-year trend.) Dalbec gets criticized because he has been terrible all year. 1b is a hitter's position. Does he provide offense? No. Is he Keith Hernandez on defense? Hell no. 1b should be a position where you have a masher. Instead 1b is a black hole. Cordero has been ok offensively, but is terrible defensively at 1b, too. They need a temporary 1b to get them through the season. Fortunately there should be some available via trade. Long term I still think Casas will alleviate the problem and be the masher at 1b that they have sought. Unfortunately the outfield corners aren't much better. This should be low hanging fruit that can be improved. With LF, Verudgo will eventually be closer to what he normally does, so I'm not as worried about him. I expect him to be post-back issues Mike Greenwell, but under .300. RF is a mess. JBJ's glove does not make up for his bat at all. At this point I hope the Sox get 2nd half Kiké Hernandez back. 1b will probably be a trade acquisition, although I wouldn't be totally shocked if Bloom stood pat with Cordero/Dalbec.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 8, 2022 13:24:50 GMT -5
Y'all, this is a discussion about the 40-man roster. Maybe whether Dalbec should be rostered is fair, but why are we talking about the middle of the order?
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 8, 2022 22:44:18 GMT -5
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