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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 21:38:41 GMT -5
I suspect Potts and Rosario will either be traded or released this year. Potts could hit a ton of bombs though too and suddenly be our starting left fielder for a month or two after injuries hit. It’s nice to have depth in our system The Red Sox have 1 40-man spot open and probably have to acquire at least a starting-level OF (i.e. Suzuki), at least one infielder if not two (at least need a bench IF, and probably would like a starting-level one instead or as well), and at least one solid reliever if not two. That's as many as 4 40-man spots they'd need to clear. I think it's pretty unlikely both Potts and Rosario will still be on the 40-man on opening day, but at the very least, I don't think comparing Santos (or anyone really) to the most likely DFA candidates on the 40-man right now, when the building of the MLB roster is clearly incomplete, is the analysis to be making. I would assume Mata and Paxton heading to the DL/IL list would open a couple spots on the 40-man. How quickly can they be moved to the DL when spring training starts so that Bloom can sign other players without more subtractions from the 40-man?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 1, 2022 1:32:11 GMT -5
The Red Sox have 1 40-man spot open and probably have to acquire at least a starting-level OF (i.e. Suzuki), at least one infielder if not two (at least need a bench IF, and probably would like a starting-level one instead or as well), and at least one solid reliever if not two. That's as many as 4 40-man spots they'd need to clear. I think it's pretty unlikely both Potts and Rosario will still be on the 40-man on opening day, but at the very least, I don't think comparing Santos (or anyone really) to the most likely DFA candidates on the 40-man right now, when the building of the MLB roster is clearly incomplete, is the analysis to be making. I would assume Mata and Paxton heading to the DL/IL list would open a couple spots on the 40-man. How quickly can they be moved to the DL when spring training starts so that Bloom can sign other players without more subtractions from the 40-man? I think it's basically the start of camp now, but that said, they are unlikely to do that with Mata. I'm sure they'd rather option him and save the service time, which is what they did last year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 14:44:40 GMT -5
I would assume Mata and Paxton heading to the DL/IL list would open a couple spots on the 40-man. How quickly can they be moved to the DL when spring training starts so that Bloom can sign other players without more subtractions from the 40-man? I think it's basically the start of camp now, but that said, they are unlikely to do that with Mata. I'm sure they'd rather option him and save the service time, which is what they did last year. So there is 1 open spot and Paxton’s spot that can be used for FA signings. Any additional acquisition will need a corresponding move. Who do you think would get traded/DFAed if additional roster spots are needed.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 1, 2022 15:19:25 GMT -5
I think it's basically the start of camp now, but that said, they are unlikely to do that with Mata. I'm sure they'd rather option him and save the service time, which is what they did last year. So there is 1 open spot and Paxton’s spot that can be used for FA signings. Any additional acquisition will need a corresponding move. Who do you think would get traded/DFAed if additional roster spots are needed. It would seem that one of our able mods moved this discussion into a thread about just that. EDIT: Or actually, made a new one. Here's the old one. forum.soxprospects.com/thread/5536/2021-40-man-roster?page=27
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 23:51:12 GMT -5
So there is 1 open spot and Paxton’s spot that can be used for FA signings. Any additional acquisition will need a corresponding move. Who do you think would get traded/DFAed if additional roster spots are needed. It would seem that one of our able mods moved this discussion into a thread about just that. EDIT: Or actually, made a new one. Here's the old one. forum.soxprospects.com/thread/5536/2021-40-man-roster?page=27Thank you, Chris.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2022 14:05:32 GMT -5
With the addition of Strahm and Diekman to the 40-man goes from 39 to 41. Do we know the corresponding move? When can Mata and Paxton be moved to DL or whatever?
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Post by wcsoxfan on Mar 13, 2022 14:16:46 GMT -5
With the addition of Strahm and Diekman to the 40-man goes from 39 to 41. Do we know the corresponding move? When can Mata and Paxton be moved to DL or whatever? 60-day IL starts at the beginning of spring training. But I wouldn't be surprised if Rosario/Potts are waived and assigned to the minors (assuming they clear waivers) before Mata goes to the 60-day. He major league clock starts ticking again once he hits the 60-day IL.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 14, 2022 9:27:29 GMT -5
First move will be Paxton to the 60.
They're unlikely to put Mata on the 60. I would DFA Potts, Rosario, Araúz, Valdez, and maybe even Davis and Sawamura first.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 11:41:38 GMT -5
First move will be Paxton to the 60. They're unlikely to put Mata on the 60. I would DFA Potts, Rosario, Araúz, Valdez, and maybe even Davis and Sawamura first. I was surprised Potts and Rosario were not DFAs in November in favor of other possible Rule 5 players, but maybe Bloom had insight into Rule 5 likelihood of being canceled, and that the Rule 5 players added would have been DFAed when Current FA signing were completed.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 14, 2022 12:35:13 GMT -5
First move will be Paxton to the 60. They're unlikely to put Mata on the 60. I would DFA Potts, Rosario, Araúz, Valdez, and maybe even Davis and Sawamura first. I was surprised Potts and Rosario were not DFAs in November in favor of other possible Rule 5 players, but maybe Bloom had insight into Rule 5 likelihood of being canceled, and that the Rule 5 players added would have been DFAed when Current FA signing were completed. As I've said few times, if they'd DFA'd guys in the fall to add Rule 5 guys, how would they have made room now for guys on the MLB roster?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 15:58:36 GMT -5
I was surprised Potts and Rosario were not DFAs in November in favor of other possible Rule 5 players, but maybe Bloom had insight into Rule 5 likelihood of being canceled, and that the Rule 5 players added would have been DFAed when Current FA signing were completed. As I've said few times, if they'd DFA'd guys in the fall to add Rule 5 guys, how would they have made room now for guys on the MLB roster? 👍🏻
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Post by cdj on Mar 15, 2022 8:35:41 GMT -5
I think this might be the appropriate thread? Xander is now good to go in Toronto
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Post by manfred on Mar 15, 2022 10:19:38 GMT -5
I think this might be the appropriate thread? Xander is now good to go in Toronto Where is it *not* appropriate to talk vaccines?? Discuss! (I kid)
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 15, 2022 11:10:10 GMT -5
The Matt Strahm signing is official, so the roster is back to 40 for the time being.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 16, 2022 13:26:56 GMT -5
Diekman is official. Paxton to the 60-day IL.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Mar 22, 2022 16:52:23 GMT -5
So Story would probably mean Rosario is gone or Taylor to the 60 DL right?
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Mar 22, 2022 16:56:50 GMT -5
So Story would probably mean Rosario is gone or Taylor to the 60 DL right? Taylor was throwing off the mound today, so him moving to the 60 can likely be ruled out
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Post by jimoh on Mar 22, 2022 17:40:19 GMT -5
Ny Post “ DUNEDIN, Fla. – MLB and the Players Association have reached a tentative agreement to expand rosters from 26 to 28 players through May 1 to compensate in some way for a 3 1/2-week spring training, The Post has learned.”
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Post by notstarboard on Mar 22, 2022 17:40:48 GMT -5
Just to document why folks are talking about Rosario and Taylor but not Potts
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Post by soxfanatic on Mar 23, 2022 3:57:07 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Mar 23, 2022 4:45:12 GMT -5
So now you're telling me we have nothing left to show for trading MITCH MORELAND?? What a waste. /s
I hope Rosario sticks around. Players like him come around sometimes and we can use OF depth. Potts... long path to relevance now.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Mar 23, 2022 6:50:21 GMT -5
So now you're telling me we have nothing left to show for trading MITCH MORELAND?? What a waste. /s I hope Rosario sticks around. Players like him come around sometimes and we can use OF depth. Potts... long path to relevance now. I honestly think both clear. Both had a huge drop in stock last season.
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Post by cdj on Mar 24, 2022 16:53:12 GMT -5
Ralph is mildly interesting
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Post by ematz1423 on Mar 26, 2022 14:28:32 GMT -5
Yankees claimed Rosario.
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Post by orion09 on Mar 26, 2022 15:42:37 GMT -5
Next: they convert him to relief, all part of their plan to pay us back for Whitlock
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