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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 15, 2021 9:44:33 GMT -5
Who they then removed after like 65 pitches for a reason. I agree with giving him rope as a starter, I just don’t get how people are still defensive when others call him a probable reliever Houck is CURRENTLY one of the five best starters on the Red Sox. Will he be when pitchers and catchers report in February depends on Bloom. Only way that happens is if Bloom signs Max and Verlander or trades for Manaea and signs one of the aforementioned. Houck is better than Pivetta.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Nov 19, 2021 18:47:56 GMT -5
So Araoz, Davis, Locastro and Valdez were kept on the 40 man roster? There was a very good chance none of those guys would have been claimed. Exposing Jimenez and Ward doesn’t make much sense as both will likely be picked as well as possibly Cottam.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 19, 2021 20:20:32 GMT -5
I'd claim Clint Frazier asap. I know his star has dimmed quite a bit but he could definitely be on a 26 man roster somewhere.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 19, 2021 20:39:55 GMT -5
Frazier is interesting as I don't see them currently having a better 4th OF on the roster and his lefty bat could platoon with renfroe against tough righty pitchers. I'd be all for it if Bloom and Co think it's a good idea and I'd be all for it if they decide not to so I guess that's my long winded way of saying I'm indifferent.
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Post by cdj on Nov 19, 2021 20:46:56 GMT -5
Frazier is interesting as I don't see them currently having a better 4th OF on the roster and his lefty bat could platoon with renfroe against tough righty pitchers. I'd be all for it if Bloom and Co think it's a good idea and I'd be all for it if they decide not to so I guess that's my long winded way of saying I'm indifferent. He’s a righty bat unfortunately. Adam Frazier is the lefty of all the Fraziers iirc
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 19, 2021 21:29:42 GMT -5
Frazier is interesting as I don't see them currently having a better 4th OF on the roster and his lefty bat could platoon with renfroe against tough righty pitchers. I'd be all for it if Bloom and Co think it's a good idea and I'd be all for it if they decide not to so I guess that's my long winded way of saying I'm indifferent. He’s a righty bat unfortunately. Adam Frazier is the lefty of all the Fraziers iirc Ohh dang you are correct, dont know why i thought he was lefty. I can't get anything right today. At least it's Friday. But I suppose I'll say I'm still indifferent on him and that he could make a good 4th OF.
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Post by baseball3 on Nov 20, 2021 0:03:18 GMT -5
I'd claim Clint Frazier asap. I know his star has dimmed quite a bit but he could definitely be on a 26 man roster somewhere. He can't stay healthy because of concussion issues (which might never go away) and is a terrible defender. Either way I don't see him getting to the Sox in a waiver claim (Sox have terrible position in waiver claims, just like rule 5 draft). He's more likely to be traded for fodder. The Yankees aren't going to give away Frazier to the Sox willingly. They gave away Ottavino to the Sox because they had to last year.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Nov 20, 2021 8:07:24 GMT -5
I'd claim Clint Frazier asap. I know his star has dimmed quite a bit but he could definitely be on a 26 man roster somewhere. He can't stay healthy because of concussion issues (which might never go away) and is a terrible defender. Either way I don't see him getting to the Sox in a waiver claim (Sox have terrible position in waiver claims, just like rule 5 draft). He's more likely to be traded for fodder. The Yankees aren't going to give away Frazier to the Sox willingly. They gave away Ottavino to the Sox because they had to last year. They don't really have a choice in the matter unless they can work out a trade with someone. They don't have a lot of leverage in the situation with suitors. The Rays were smart to do what they did with Honeywell. They just traded him before the deadline.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Nov 30, 2021 21:00:00 GMT -5
I was taking a look at the 40-man roster to try and figure out what the Red Sox will do in free agency. As of right now, they only have 2 openings with the possibility of another 2 being able to open (Potts and Rosario).
Right now they seem to have 4 glaring roster holes: - Closer/Setup-man - Left-handed 1st-base platoon - Utility Infielder - 4th/5th Outfielder
With Barnes/Taylor as the top relief pitchers, and Robles/Ottavino free agents, this should be a priority. With Yates, Graveman and Loup off the board, we're left with Jansen and Iglesias as the only pitchers who fit this bill. Given their ages (32 and 34) they scare the hell out of me. If the market dries up, great, otherwise a gamble on Rosenthal may be a smart move. [it should be noted that the Red Sox only have 8 RPs on their 40-man at this time; so a signing or a move to the bullpen (Crawford?) will be needed for depth] It could be argued that the Red Sox need 2 relief pitchers.
A left-handed bat, like Schwarber, who can platoon with Dalbec and provide lineup depth is a clear area of need, and there isn't anyone on the 40-man roster to fill this void. Given Martinez is in the last year of his contract (and could be traded at a premium if a universal DH is added) then retaining Schwarber on a mult-year contract seems to be the obvious choice/fit (he can play LF, especially in Fenway, passably as well).
As of right now, the Red Sox would have Arauz as the utility infielder and Tim Locastro as the 4th/5th outfielder. I think we all agree that a better Arroyo backup plan would be nice, and I don't think we're all tied to Locastro (but with Frenchy and Duran around, I feel better about this). So a veteran backup utility player (Iglesias?) would be ideal, just in-case Arroyo craters, or gets injured (although we have Kiké as well).
For those still hoping for a SP, based on the 6 starters currently signed and the immense depth through AAA/AA (Crawford, Winckowski, Bello, Seabold, Groome, Mata - how long has it been since they've had this much SP prospect depth?), I just don't see it happening. Only exception may be if Rodon's market craters and he takes a 'prove-it' deal.
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Post by julyanmorley on Nov 30, 2021 21:03:17 GMT -5
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Post by wildsox on Nov 30, 2021 21:15:35 GMT -5
Why would they non-tender him now instead of a few weeks ago when they needed spots for the Rule 5?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 30, 2021 21:28:43 GMT -5
Why would they non-tender him now instead of a few weeks ago when they needed spots for the Rule 5? They left three spots open as it was. They didn't need his spot. Also by non-tendering him he didn't have to go on waivers. My guess is they want to re-sign him to a minor league deal.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 1, 2021 0:44:27 GMT -5
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Dec 1, 2021 7:49:28 GMT -5
Assuming the CBA negotiations don't get resolved til around spring training, Paxton and Mata go on the 60 day IL at the start of camp essentially taking the current roster number to 35?
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Post by chr31ter on Dec 1, 2021 14:08:06 GMT -5
What's your favorite memory of the Tim Locastro Era?
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Post by Canseco on Dec 1, 2021 14:12:29 GMT -5
What's your favorite memory of the Tim Locastro Era? Probably the depths to which Castro levels plummeted.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 1, 2021 15:09:09 GMT -5
What's your favorite memory of the Tim Locastro Era? When they took him off the 40 man roster.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Dec 7, 2021 14:00:35 GMT -5
Looking at the current 40 man - currently sitting at 39 - I can see Valdez, Bazardo, Rosario, Potts and - maybe, depending upon he is doing after TJ - Mata - where we can get flexibility - 4-5 more open spots?
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Post by ramireja on Dec 7, 2021 14:15:28 GMT -5
Looking at the current 40 man - currently sitting at 39 - I can see Valdez, Bazardo, Rosario, Potts and - maybe, depending upon he is doing after TJ - Mata - where we can get flexibility - 4-5 more open spots? Currently have 1 spot available, I'd DFA Rosario and Potts for 2 more no problem which gives us 3 spots (Renfroe replacement, infielder, quality reliever like Tepera or McHugh). If in need of another before can utilize 60-day IL, then maybe Valdez before Bazardo but I actually kind of like both. It would be more ideal if we can make 2 late acquisitions (maybe of the reliever or bench spot variety) after placing Mata and Paxton on the 60-day IL.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 7, 2021 15:07:29 GMT -5
If the lockout goes for long enough (think butting right up against ST or something), then Mata and Paxton to the 60-day might wind up being the first spots they open. One potential "benefit," I guess, of the lockout.
But yeah, Potts 1, Rosario 2 on the DFA list. Valdez, Davis, and Bazardo are somewhat fungible but relievers with options have value. And of course, usual caveat re: trades would potentially create spots.
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