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Post by bluechip on Apr 17, 2013 20:41:34 GMT -5
Ok. What happened? I walk away for two minutes when Tazawa is dealing with a runner in scoring position. I return and Jerry Remy is accusing Don of stealing mustard? Their act can get tiresome at times
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 20:41:48 GMT -5
He should have had someone warming up to begin the inning. He wasn't likely to go more than 5 plus anyways. Not really stretched out yet. With Aceves you have to have a very short leash once he gets to the third time through the order. If he starts to struggle and you manage to get him through an inning in this case don't bring him back out, especially if he's due to face some lefties. Farrell with a five run lead tried to sneak another inning out of Aceves and let's hope it doesn't cost them. I'd treat Doubront the same way. |
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Post by bluechip on Apr 17, 2013 20:44:47 GMT -5
He should have had someone warming up to begin the inning. He wasn't likely to go more than 5 plus anyways. Not really stretched out yet. With Aceves you have to have a very short leash once he gets to the third time through the order. If he starts to struggle and you manage to get him through an inning in this case don't bring him back out, especially if he's due to face some lefties. Farrell with a five run lead tried to sneak another inning out of Aceves and let's hope it doesn't cost them. I'd treat Doubront the same way. They would have been better served having Wright start the sixth and then using him for a few innings. |
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 17, 2013 20:46:32 GMT -5
I'm also not a fan at all of pinch-hitting Gomes for Carp. The dudes had an awesome night at the plate, not to mention he has reverse platoon splits in his MLB career.
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 17, 2013 20:51:26 GMT -5
My god, Tazawa's stuff is nasty.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 17, 2013 20:53:43 GMT -5
IIRC, Carp's reverse platoon split is just a BABIP illusion. It's different for pitchers, but as far as hitters go, reverse platoon splits aren't really a thing that exists.
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Post by jmei on Apr 17, 2013 20:54:20 GMT -5
Tazawa is absolutely filthy. His fastball has become near-elite, with great command, good movement, and enough velocity to blow by most hitters. His splitter punishes batters for sitting on the fastball and he can steal a few strikes with the loopy curveball.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 21:00:57 GMT -5
I'm also not a fan at all of pinch-hitting Gomes for Carp. The dudes had an awesome night at the plate, not to mention he has reverse platoon splits in his MLB career. I am with you on that. With runners on sure go for the jugular. But with no one on and two out, save Gomes for later. |
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Post by jmei on Apr 17, 2013 21:01:50 GMT -5
I like free runs.
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Post by charliezink16 on Apr 17, 2013 21:07:24 GMT -5
Tazawa is absolutely filthy. His fastball has become near-elite, with great command, good movement, and enough velocity to blow by most hitters. His splitter punishes batters for sitting on the fastball and he can steal a few strikes with the loopy curveball. Can certain people on this board stop acting as if this team has zero chance of making a playoff run this year? I mean this is our 6th/7th inning guy we're talking about. Tazawa, Uehara, Bailey, and (a healthy) Hanarahan make up one of the best bullpens in baseball. Lester and Buchholz seem to be poised for solid seasons, while Douby, Dempster, and (debate-ably) Lackey make up a formidable back of the rotation. Don't forget about Allen Webster who (personally I assume) can make a major impact on the big league club later in the season from the back of the rotation, or the pen if needed. Additionally, the lineup is better than average, and this is one of the better defensive teams we've seen in a while. Obviously, injuries can play a big part in Boston's fate, and we've only seen 13 games, but the way the AL East is shaping up, there's no reason Boston can't win the division. Lets go Sox. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 21:12:33 GMT -5
With Aceves you have to have a very short leash once he gets to the third time through the order. If he starts to struggle and you manage to get him through an inning in this case don't bring him back out, especially if he's due to face some lefties. Farrell with a five run lead tried to sneak another inning out of Aceves and let's hope it doesn't cost them. I'd treat Doubront the same way. They would have been better served having Wright start the sixth and then using him for a few innings. I agree but let me try to play devil's advocate. He prefers not to use a new pitcher for the first time with the game still somewhat in doubt. He's got a lot of games comming up with no Hanrahan and he would prefer not to pitch Uehara on back to back days. He can't use Wilson or Mortonsen so he tries to sneak another inning out of Aceves when he has a five run cushion. As of now it does look like it's going to turn out okay. I don't agree with that especially when you have Lester on the bump tommorrow who is likely to give you some innings. But it's the most logical explanation I could think of. |
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 17, 2013 21:17:46 GMT -5
Man I like everything about uehara
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Post by bluechip on Apr 17, 2013 21:21:31 GMT -5
A day of rest for Middlebrooks would not be the worst idea.
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 17, 2013 21:29:59 GMT -5
Great to see the players having fun.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 17, 2013 21:31:58 GMT -5
Lester and Buchholz seem to be poised for solid seasons, while Douby, Dempster, and (debate-ably) Lackey make up a formidable back of the rotation. Don't forget about Allen Webster who (personally I assume) can make a major impact on the big league club later in the season from the back of the rotation, or the pen if needed. I think you're wishcasting on the rotation. Lester, fine. Buchholz? We've seen him dominate before; it tends not to stick. And the Doubront/Dempster/Lackey group? How many nominal contenders aren't rolling out a 3-4-5 AT LEAST that good? |
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 17, 2013 21:32:29 GMT -5
The Sox were not 6 games over 500 all year in 2012. That's just mind blowing, even knowing how terrible a start and team it ended up being
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 17, 2013 21:36:14 GMT -5
Just saw Carp's interview with Jenny. He seems like a great guy. I didn't know much about him but remember some Seattle person (fan or writer, I don't remember) complaining about his attitude last year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 21:53:59 GMT -5
Lester and Buchholz seem to be poised for solid seasons, while Douby, Dempster, and (debate-ably) Lackey make up a formidable back of the rotation. Don't forget about Allen Webster who (personally I assume) can make a major impact on the big league club later in the season from the back of the rotation, or the pen if needed. I think you're wishcasting on the rotation. Lester, fine. Buchholz? We've seen him dominate before; it tends not to stick. And the Doubront/Dempster/Lackey group? How many nominal contenders aren't rolling out a 3-4-5 AT LEAST that good? Buccholtz has always had the talent but just hasn't put it togeather with any consistancy. Perhaps with Farrell back and a few major league seasons under his belt he becomes the player we thought he was. Wishcasting? Maybe....but not drug induced fantasy land. |
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 17, 2013 22:06:11 GMT -5
Lester and Buchholz seem to be poised for solid seasons, while Douby, Dempster, and (debate-ably) Lackey make up a formidable back of the rotation. Don't forget about Allen Webster who (personally I assume) can make a major impact on the big league club later in the season from the back of the rotation, or the pen if needed. I think you're wishcasting on the rotation. Lester, fine. Buchholz? We've seen him dominate before; it tends not to stick. And the Doubront/Dempster/Lackey group? How many nominal contenders aren't rolling out a 3-4-5 AT LEAST that good? Dempster is a solid #3. He's durable and strikes guys out. He's slightly (but not overly) homer prone, which keeps him somewhere below All-Star level, but what AL teams have a better #3 right now? The Jays, I guess, with Buehrle, the Tigers with Sanchez. Alexi Ogando on the Rangers maybe? I agree there is some wishcasting on Doubront/Lackey, but almost every contender is doing the same with the back end of their rotation. I think the bigger worry is going beyond them. If the main starting five can make 145+ starts, the Sox are in great shape, but a couple injuries will really expose the lack of depth. Teams like the Rangers, Blue Jays, Rays and Tigers can (or have) taken some injuries and not ended up in a bad place. The Red Sox #6 starter is Aceves, so that's obviously a concern. |
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Post by Guidas on Apr 17, 2013 22:11:27 GMT -5
I actually have been thinking that Tazawa could be a two inning closer. He has the control, the arm and the stuff. I don't think many clubs would consider going there but he rarely seems over matched and I feel like there's enough thunder in that arm to get two consecutive innings worth of outs an appearance. Anyone else, or is this just heresy in the modern game (not like I'm ancient over here).
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 17, 2013 22:18:33 GMT -5
I think Webster would be a better option as the season progresses and if they need more than a start or two. He has the potential to be better than Doubront and Lackey (depending on which Lackey we get)
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Post by jmei on Apr 17, 2013 22:36:55 GMT -5
It's a shame Daniel Bard hasn't gotten his **** together yet. Farrell clearly doesn't trust Wright in any meaningful situation, and after two five-inning starts, the bullpen is a bit spent. It's also another eleven games before the next off-day and Hanrahan won't be eligible to return off the DL until then, so we've got to hope that the starters can pitch deep into games.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 17, 2013 22:46:44 GMT -5
I actually have been thinking that Tazawa could be a two inning closer. He has the control, the arm and the stuff. I don't think many clubs would consider going there but he rarely seems over matched and I feel like there's enough thunder in that arm to get two consecutive innings worth of outs an appearance. Anyone else, or is this just heresy in the modern game (not like I'm ancient over here). If we're going to be unconventional, can we please not shove him into the silly "closer" construction? |
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Post by zimmerdown on Apr 17, 2013 22:50:41 GMT -5
Lester and Buchholz seem to be poised for solid seasons, while Douby, Dempster, and (debate-ably) Lackey make up a formidable back of the rotation. Don't forget about Allen Webster who (personally I assume) can make a major impact on the big league club later in the season from the back of the rotation, or the pen if needed. I think you're wishcasting on the rotation. Lester, fine. Buchholz? We've seen him dominate before; it tends not to stick. And the Doubront/Dempster/Lackey group? How many nominal contenders aren't rolling out a 3-4-5 AT LEAST that good? I think you're trying too hard to be the anti-homer. |
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 17, 2013 22:53:41 GMT -5
I think you're trying too hard to be the anti-homer. Yeah, that's what I was told when I kept saying Josh Beckett wasn't an ace. For cryin' out loud, John Lackey hasn't been good in years and he had his arm blow up before he could even get through his first start. And Alfredo Aceves is his replacement. And we're talking about how we have one of the better rotations in the league? It's crazy talk. |
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