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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Nov 12, 2022 18:14:21 GMT -5
It's also CB having a bad hit rate so far in his trades for prospects. Downs, Seabold, Potts, Rosario, German, Hernandez, Wallace Binelas and Hamilton have all fizzled, fallen or failed to advance much. Neither Franchy or Winck, who were the first two guys from the Beni trade to hit The Show, looks like much of a contributor. Call it bad talent evaluation or just bad luck because BB talent is extremely hard to project, but none of the prospects Bloom has acquired in trades look like they can be counted on to make much impact. The jury is still out on the other three acquired in the Beni trade and those acquired at the 2022 deadline. That is not entirely fair, because many of those guys were acquired for virtually nothing. How much could we expect to get back for Mitch Moreland etc? I think the only way to judge is if we *lost* trades, and most of those guys do not represent losses. ABSOLUTELY AGREE! How much was 30 days of Mitch Moreland in 2020 (Potts and Rosario), Workman and Hembree (Pivetta and Seabold) for 30 days…… I agree, Manfred! Benintendi on a downward spiral arb $6,300,000 for Winckowski…. Trading Renfroe to upgrade the defense was good, but JBJ for $16,000,000 was the only one I (and many on this site had a problem with)…. Many on this site blame Bloom for 2020 and for trading Betts. That is totally not on him. Do you honestly think that decision was not way, way above him…the new guy….honestly. The Red Sox were in the ALCS in 2021 (credit or no credit to Bloom as a lot of the team was already in place). In 2022 we actually started to see Bloom’s stamp on the team, but there were still constrictions (Price $16,000,000, JD $19,350,000 (5th yr start of decline), Sale $27,500,000 a DD re-signing),….). At least half of the credit/blame for 2022 goes to DD as well as Bloom. In 2023 the credit and blame will be on Bloom. It boils my blood reading blame put on people that it should not go on whether it is baseball or other things in life. |
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Post by bcsox on Nov 12, 2022 22:33:33 GMT -5
Two questions on two absolutely different subject matters:
1. With regard to Senga, do the leagues in Japan still use a baseball that is much different than the MLB ball? I recall reading about Dice K’ and others struggles with the breaking ball initially having something to do with getting used to an entirely different ball. Something about raised seems? How do you possibly figure this into a scouting analysis?
2. If I missed this somewhere in here, I apologize but I thought I saw a tweet somewhere in the past week that the Sox hired away from
The Yanks one of their top Dominican scouts? Was that discussed? Do se classify it as a potentially significant move or more like just shuffling the deck?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Nov 13, 2022 10:03:51 GMT -5
Here's my concern. It is easy to have "familiarty bias" - we have players and we think of them as in their prime, or past performace, or potential.
I don't think Boston as a franchise can settle for mediocrity - but it is a given that there is a finite amount of talent. When I ponder our potential line up and think of Kiké, or Dalbec, or Hosmer, or at this point Wong or McGuire, or even Refsnyder, there is a risk of lots of mediocrity, or worse, in such a line up. Watching what Bloom does this offseason has to be fascinating - and I hope he has some surprises up his sleeve. Imaging the line up without Bogaerts and/or Devers is even worse of course.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 13, 2022 13:02:20 GMT -5
We're closing this thread. We generally don't like mega-threads here - if you have something to discuss and it doesn't have an obvious thread, start one!
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