Bryan Reynolds requests trade

I hope not. I'm not as extreme as Woba Fett, but in spirit, I'm with him.

I only worry about health when it comes to Casas. I don't worry about his ability to become a middle of the order slugger sooner or later.

I want no part of him not being a big part of the Sox future because I think he will be.

Reynolds would be perfect for RF. But I wouldnt part with Casas, Bello, Mayer, or Bleis.

Everybody else is available.

Does that get a deal done? Probably not, but I wouldn't pull the trigger on a Reynolds deal with any of those 4 in it.

I'd clear out a bunch of the next tier, guys like Mata, Lugo, even Yorke or Romero, but none of those top 4. They're welcome to Dalbec too if they want him. Lol

Well you are on IMHO one of if not the absolute source for red sox prospects who now has perales ranked 10th In the system so ya I'm going to say perales is certainly a "legitimate" prospect and not a lotto ticket.

I think for purposes of this discussion, you're pretty far off the map if you're thinking he'd just be a throw-in in a trade. Even if you think soxprospects is way overrating him and he should be like #30 rather than #10, that's still not a "lottery ticket" in my book; that's a prospect that has some real value beyond just "ehh, might turn into something, you never know."

Why are you on this site then? He's ranked #10 here. I'm going to believe this great sites ranking over you claiming he doesn't have much value.

What are the odds any prospects make the majors? Don't really want to get in a back and forth here saying the same thing but this site you are posting on has perales ranked #10 as a 19 year old with limited innings. Obviously there's something in his stuff they really like or he wouldn't be ranked that high.

If you want to classify him as a lotto ticket/throw away in a deal then why bother checking this site? Sounds like you put more stock into fangraphs or other prospect sites if that's your opinion of once again a top 10 rated prospect on the premier red sox prospects sites as far as I know of.

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Fair enough I get it. But ya I'm not trading Casas and raefella for Reynolds let alone them plus a lotto ticket. I think raefellas defense makes him a guaranteed major league player at some point and Casas bat makes him a ML starter at 1st. I get you need to give to get but I just don't think the Sox are to the point where they should sell two surplus value players for Reynolds who just wouldn't push them over the top if you ask me.

You trade a haul for Reynolds when you are a piece maybe two away from legit WS contender.

How about instead of "legit WS contender", it's phrased differently?

I mean, we're moving to the point where sub .500 teams can make the wild card and eventually the world series.

That's not what's being meant, though.

For me, it's a team that is a 90 win team without having too many things needing to break right.

I mean we can agree that the Dodgers, Astros, And Yankees have been on a different level the past 5 years, consistently winning 90 plus games per year?

The Red Sox won 92 games in 2021 but a lot had to break right. You picked them to win 82 games in 2022 because you figured the breaks would go the other way. That's not a consistent 90 plus win talent base. They're not there.

A guy like Reynolds improves the talent base but at what cost? Casas? Bleis? A combo?

We disagree re: the talent base. I'm sure you see them as 85 wins at the moment before anything happens, not counting the Martin and Rodriguez signings.

I think they're a 75-80 win talent base before the offseason kicks into full gear.

Either way that's not on the level of the best teams in baseball and there are other teams on higher levels at the moment.

I think the time to get a player to put you over the top is when you already have a consistent 90 plus win base to start from.

Of course in this day and age, a 111 win team can bounced out of the playoffs by an 89 win team.

But if you're going for it as an 85 win team and you strip the system to do so eventually you're looking at a 75 win team.

So I think they're not at the place where getting a player to put them over the top makes sense, post season tournament not withstanding.

Frankly, Reynolds is a good player but I certainly dont think he's good enough to part with needed top prospects.

I know the defense isn't the same but I'd rather keep the prospects and sign Haniger.

I do have a feeling Bloom will very much be in on Reynolds and I do worry about who he'll part with. I have no desire to see Casas get dealt.

I’d call that an unlikely WS contender, but I agree with your point overall. I don’t get the argument against making moves. It seems to be “we only have really good players in 2/3 of our positions, so we shouldn’t commit much to filling the holes, because that 2/3 isn’t enough on its own.”

Let’s set names aside. If the Sox get an All-star SS X (teehee), a really good OF Y , and solid DH Z, this lineup is strong. Why argue against move 1 because 2 and 3 haven’t happened yet?

I don’t think this would get it done but I think my personal threshold would be something like a Rafaela/Paulino/Drohan package. I can get why, but would rather they not move one of their top 4 (including Bello).

I picked them for 83 wins so you were closer. I need to stop being so damn optimistic. Lol

Personally I like Crawford as a reliever more than as a starter, but he has a way to go in either role.

I'm not big on Dalbec but if he's healthy I'm in on Casas. I think that moose has a decent hit tool, serious power and expanding knowledge of the strike zone. I think he's at the point where he's learning which pitches are close enough to swing at without losing his plate discipline. Eventually he'll strike earlier in the count and pitchers will respond by nibbling and he'll be smart enough to adjust and get himself ahead in counts to the point he punishes pitchers or he takes his walks.

And to reiterate my point, soon a sub .500 team can legitimately claim to have world series aspirations and we're only about 10 years away from expansion and even more damn teams in the playoffs. Finishing .500 won't matter anymore. Some day some losing team will be hoisting the World Series trophy.

I completely agree if you can have Bednar thrown in. I am not worried about losing Rafaela in a deal. I am all but certain that Reynolds will be a much better player. Getting two affordable players at positions of need is exactly what Bloom should be doing. The Sox were close in 2021 and they can turn things around quickly if they get better health along with the right talent acquisitions.